Twitter Plays a Visual Novel - Ch. 12

[3ds1234]

@RoboMochi
@Myorn

Eh agree to disagree maybe it's cuz I'm not really the type to be selfish is why I have a problem with ignoring her wish despite it killing her to save those people.

Again disagreements on whether you feel guilty or not. Even if it's akin to a natural disaster it is still something you can stop so even if you didn't have any part of it you still have hands of many peoples lives on your hand whether you care or not.

I understand getting trauma from killing a loved one but ignoring her wish would just lead to her having trauma instead. Even if she has a matyr complex and is self sacrifical she still wants to help these people even if that is bad mindset to have when it comes to your life.

And also the only thing you're risking is your sanity not your future as the parents will take care of keeping the incident manipulated.

And again if you don't care of her hating you then might as well cut her off after you made that decision and move on with your life cuz from my perspective you're just leaving her to die along with those people but I get it.

 

[RoboMochi]

@3ds1234
It seems you get it wrong. I'm not trying to make you to pick the same choice as mine. I'm just trying to explain why I choose mine while at the same time answering your arguments. If you think you're the type of person who can kill her girlfriend and let 100 random people stay alive despite not knowing any of those people, sure go on, I personally don't have any problem with that since that is your choice.

- I already explain why I use the words 'natural disaster', so I won't go over this again.

- It's risking my future because of the trauma that I will get. I imagine it would be hard to get close to someone again after that, and so on. Everytime I fall in love again, only the moment I stabbed her will come to my mind.

- I don't see any reason why I need to cut her off after that. Rather, the one who probably will cut someone off is her because she is not satisfied with my choice.

- I still can't understand why would you bring her trauma into this. What kinda trauma will she get after she help prolonged people's life? Not to mention she already push the burden of their death on me. No reason for her to get any trauma. If anything, she will hate me. And if you still insist the event will traumatize her, then that's fine with me. Trauma can be healed, dead person not. I don't kill her and she doesn't kill anyone. And that's what matter on the choice that I pick.

 

[3ds1234]

@RoboMochi Nope still don't see how there is a definite right answer to this. It's one thing to say how you have a choice and you made yours but there isn't a definitive correct answer.

I'm not sure if I'm that willing a person to make that choice of killing my girlfriend to save 100 people. But thinking that oh it's just random people who cares is incredibly selfish. It's a pragmatic choice for sure but I wouldn't call it correct. I mean look at it the other perspective and say she saved you from dying from the curse and then you die not living the rest of your life whether a parent with family or kids just starting their lives and living it because the guy she asked to save you decided not to kill her and let you die cuz he doesn't know you.

If you wanna continue to classify it as a natural disaster go ahead but by definition a curse isn't a natural disaster as it's manmade.

And on her getting trauma you are right she would resent you but I'm surprised you don't understand how she would get trauma. We already established she has a matyr complex and by letting her live she would undoubtedly blame herself and you for letting those people die. Much how you said the trauma of stabbing her would haunt you the trauma of seeing the many people she saved die would haunt her. Remember humans are emotional creatures and an event like this even when it's not their fault can still cause stress to a person.

And lastly if you say trauma can be healed then saying how your future is in jeapordy and you would never love again is a moot point since you yourself said trauma can be healed. Obviously trauma isn't healed easily it takes time but it still can be healed.

Again I never chose any option myself I'm just pointing out that there is not a definitive right answer and just cuz something is pragmatic doesn't mean it's right.

 

[RoboMochi]

@3ds1234
Ah, it seems you're confusing my reply with Myorn's reply. I treated our conversation as a separate matter from Myorn's. I think you should @ him/her if you disagree with him/her saying my choice is the correct one. What I did was simply thanking him/her because he/she was helping me in explaining my reasons and such, and that I'm glad that he/she agreed with me, that's it. Plus I already said in my previous reply that I'm not trying to make you pick the same choice as mine. I'm not about right or wrong in this matter tbh. I don't have any problem with your choice. What I did, again, was simply explaining my choice while answering your arguments.

Anyway, I will keep trying to answer some of your reply.
- Selfish maybe. But that's just logical and natural. It sounds harsh but I believe we don't see all lives as equal. Some lives far more important to us than others, depending our interaction with them, or how we connect with them emotionally or physically.

- It seems you still don't understand why I chose natural disaster as an example eventhough I already said I explained it enough. You just have to re-read what I wrote. Fine, I will say it again. I pick that as an example of a mass death that I don't actively involved. I don't murder anyone in natural disaster because well,... it's natural. It's outrageous to labeled myself as killer in that situation. Same in this story. The one who killed those people are the original group of people who made the curse, not me or her.

- Yeah, that's fine by me. If I were one of those 100 people that get cursed and then died because MC refused to kill her, I don't mind. I still want him to choose her.

- Yep. I still don't see the reasoning between her getting any trauma from that explanation of yours. And I already said, she pushed the burden of their death on me. She shouldn't have any burden left on her mind about that. Whatever happened is on me the moment she gave me that knife.

- Not really a moot for me. I already said that I don't get what kinda trauma she will get, it's almost as if I don't believe that will happen. Also, I never experienced it but I imagine the trauma from killing people is different from what you will get from letting people die. It's far more heavier on my side than her. I'm more at risk of losing myself.

 

[3ds1234]

@RoboMochi
Okay

On letting yourself just die to a curse I find that hard believe. I don't know you on a personal level and only have your opinion on this matter to go on but I seriously doubt you'd just give yourself up to dying without any fight or raising any type of complaint. Sorry but that doesn't seem plausible. Especially if you might have your own family and worries. Much like how I don't know if I would sacrfice my girl I doubt if death was really knocking on your door you'd just let it happen. Most people say they don't fear death till it comes for them. Especially if they're young

I already explained what type of trauma she will get. Trauma of letting people die. I honestly don't understand how you can't get that. Sure she gave you the knife and left the decision to you but that's because that's the only way to stop the curse and she hoped you understood her wish and went through with it.

I understand there might be differences in killing someone close vs letting people around you die but trauma is still trauma doesn't matter how little or big it is it causes stress all the same.

And lastly human nature is more emotional than it is logical. I would argue your choice is more emotional or only caring about those close to you than it is logical which is why I call it out as selfishness than logical.

And again just pointing out the other side of the argument not really arguing for killing her

 

[RoboMochi]

Well, I've been in near death situation a few times before if that will help you to believe. And I'm not saying I'm not afraid to die. I was just saying that it's fine if I were to die based on that scenario. Also, it's not like he is trying to kill me. If he is trying to kill me of course the natural reaction would be defending myself. In this case, he doesn't have any fault regarding letting me to die, especially when the other choice is to kill his loved one.

Another reason probably because my religious background. I'm more afraid if I don't have enough good deeds to help me go to Heaven. The way I die, as long as it's not by suicide or as long as not in the middle of me doing misdeed, is good enough. Though, it will be far better if I die while in the middle of doing some good deeds. And whether I die while in the middle of misdeed or good deed doesn't have anything to do with him or anyone. That's my own responsibility.

I'm fine if you see that as more emotional than logical.

I think I don't have anything more to say about the rest since it will be just me repeating myself and you repeating yourself again and again.

 

[Duralumin]

damn dude you're a badass. what kid of near death situation? sounds like your are a pretty cool not fake badass guy whos' is not afraid to death

 

[bahamutmybitch]

wtf?! This story isn't even that deep, why are essays being written down lol