Uchuujin no Kakushigoto - Vol. 3 Ch. 16 - Different Views

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There's tons of examples of irony mixed with tragedy through out the entire series, but I'll just stick to one and try to explain it in depth to where you might finally get it and stop complaining about something that obviously isn't for you.

Teru is the usual best friend character being fucked around with to its absolute limits. Trying to find his "Girlfriend" Karagaki, going through the stages of grief being the only one caring that she was gone despite it not being really that well reciprocated to what we know of so far. He beats himself over it for multiple chapters even after confirming she wasn't faithful. And going to his best friend the MC who is partially responsible for her disappearance, and them having a best friend moment as he stands over the bridge. And ironically almost moves on instantly to an older woman who gives him a bit of attention, even if he feels guilty about. Only to get cucked over the phone while trying have another friend/relationship using his dead girlfriend's disappearance as an excuse which the older woman saw right through if you paid attention while immediately after have his mother leave him. Which then makes him kill himself.

Only to have that whole arc immediately undermined by the fact Karagaki is then revived right after his little arc is concluded. It's tragic, surreal, but most importantly extremely ironic. If she had been revived a earlier Teru might still be alive with a sweeter and kinder version of Karagaki. But no she goes back to school and this clean slate takes the torch of Teru's suffering in what guessed to be now her own arc. The humor is extremely light and can be overpowered by the just how absurd and dark the other material is. But that's what still makes the humor noticeable how absurd all of this is, and how it is played straight. Hell another example of something dark with a somewhat unlikeable protag is Death Note. Popular for how straightforward and non-gag oriented its comedy was. Hell Fujimoto with his entire discography is famous for it.

There are tons of old literature that teeter the line between tragedy and comedy (Divine Comedy). Hell theatre does this lots of times and even has a symbol that reflects this. If you don't like it or think it pushes too far in one direction for you to find it funny that is fine. But with the way it's illustrated the author obviously wanted some of it to not be taken seriously or at feel surreal. I could name other examples but honestly why bother it seems like you and Jackist are adamant about your stances on what counts as acceptable art or comedy and at this point I feel like trying to teach you both the history of writing and how even dark humor has been used to cope or even entertain through hard times would be lost.

Personally I liked Teru as a character and feel he got a little too much hate in comparison to the literal cheaters, murders, and accomplices in this manga. But what can you do? People hate "simps". Guess it's heavy projection.

Dramatic Irony = Comedy

I feel like a Grade 9 Theatre Substitute Teacher could explain why that isn't the case but okay bud. Clearly you are adamant about your stance but honesty, why bother. If you don't like my opinion or stance on the or think I pushed to far, that's fine.
 
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He thought it would be an actual revival with the original person's soul intact, but it turned out it was just a clone while the original person was still dead. It's cloning/duplicating, not revival.
If you don't understand "soul" then it makes sense.

If you don't believe in a soul then the original biological-machine POV is still gone but nobody would know. An unmodified clone (with the memory technology) would not be able to tell because they have all their memories. Other would not be able to tell because from other POVs nothing has changed.
 
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Theseus asked for his ship back! I mean, Class Rep asked for Karagaki back! Also let's show the gut-splattering alien that humans are horrid little creatures who act cruel just because they felt like it despite not having the tech to virtual immortality, surely nothing will go any more wrong than they already did!
 
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Frankly, at this rate, there needs some weird twist with the MC being mind controlled into liking Haru after their initial encounter. He's gone well past the point of being able to justify his "love" for this alien in any conceivable way. His life has been objectively nothing BUT worse since he got involved with her, to the point of absolute absurdity.

Like, it was one thing when wacky shit as going on. It was even semi-acceptable when Karagaki died because you could argue he was kind of in shock to really comprehend it. But now his best mate basically went and offed himself and it is 100% objectively in every conceivable way because of him and his sociopathic alien so-called-gf.

If the author tries to pull out the "I'm in love with her" card with him again I'm fuckin' done. He's becoming so far gone from anything reasonable that its completely killing my suspension of disbelief. Frankly, the whole serious would have been better if they completely nixed the love aspect from the offset, or immediately discarded it the moment he found out what she was, and treated the whole thing as a horror story where he's only staying around her because he's terrified of what will happen if he leaves her on her own. Which at this point, it feels like where he SHOULD be mentally, but he hasn't actually made any such statement yet and that makes me fear at some point they'll just pull out the love card again to rationalize him acting in an anti-human-logic manner.

Self-preservation instinct should have kicked in at some point. Motherfucker should have tried to put as much distance between himself and the emotionless heartless alien AT LEAST ONCE by now. No amount of idealistic "love" could overcome the dread that would come hand-in-hand with staring down the kind of overwhelming threat he's spending most of his time next to at this point. You can't even begin to justify any of this with him "not being a good person", this is him outright not behaving like a human being in his situation would.

Fuck man, people say the Imperium of Man is too much but this is making me think Big E had it right from the offset.
The recently translated extra kinda confirms your theory 👀1703241001058.png
 
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This alien has being so useless that I was expecting her to come back much much worse... Like a Herald of Yog-Sothoth level worse.
But this still unsettling as all fuck :kek:
 
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Why did you bring back the Comedy Tag??? It was finally removed after months and you brought it back???

THIS ISN'T A FUCKING COMEDY. Holy shit, why the fuck did the add it back. It's probably some Guro obsessed weirdo mod who thinks death is funny or something.
It's a complete joke of a manga, so yeah, it's comedy.
 
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He keeps overlooking things or not brining things up when he should...THAT'S a bad habit in my opinion.

Doesn't even ask why she dated and continued to date his former friend
 
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Heard having a bully target is normal in Japanese schools. 2 nukes weren't enough.
 
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Look at the RAW material and look at the tag

https://yanmaga.jp/comics/宇宙人のかくしごと

The Author themself that tagged this manga #ラブコメ or Romantic Comedy. The mod just follow what already been writen.. So Calm down..
comedy is subjective after all. maybe they just have a fucked up sense of dark humor.

or it's just like "his mental anguish/torture and stressful situation is what's amusing" Like the demons in the good place lol.
 
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I think he was expecting her to be "resurrected" not "replaced with a clone". It's one of those transporter paradox thingies. The fact that Haru doesn't see a distinction between "brought back to life" vs. "replaced with copy" shows that her way of thinking is completely "alien" (lololololol).

I really to to secure a stable supply of copium for whenever the next chapter drops.
considering she was 'revived'/cloned/whatever through alien means, i'm surprised her body wouldn't be more 'sturdy'/harder to die, tho i suppose that method would just be easier to do so to mass kill a bunch of students on a weekend school field trip and them being revived as soldiers or so lol
 
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Dramatic Irony = Comedy

I feel like a Grade 9 Theatre Substitute Teacher could explain why that isn't the case but okay bud. Clearly you are adamant about your stance but honesty, why bother. If you don't like my opinion or stance on the or think I pushed to far, that's fine.
Literally when you type in

"Can irony be comedy?"


"Situational irony is a statement or event that contrasts our expectations. Comic irony occurs when you add the element of humor. For example, consider the headline “Anti-Piracy Group Accused of Stealing Photo Used in Anti-Piracy Ad.” Voilá! We have a comedic twist of fate."

The twist of fate aspect being SO easy to apply to so many characters and their ridiculous situations and fates.

It's not about me being adamant it's about me being consistent.

I mean there are tons of movies and shows that go this brutal with their comedy, but why would you care?
 

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