Ueno-kun wa Kaihatsuzumi - Ch. 11 - A Muscular Beauty
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What misery?? I don't know how you still didn't get it. He fucking likes it. He's lying to himself
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He’s getting off on it due to the psychological conditioning (torture) they’ve inflicted upon him over an extended period of time, but there is no way you could tell me that he’s happy.
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right, they also made him steal their gym clothes which started this whole thing in the first place, right?
He doesn't flee, he doesn't fight back, he chooses to obey them in college for an incident that happened in school, he chooses to leave his new friend and club mates to go chase another nut
This guy is a fucking pervert, always has been
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If this was a normal world, the girls would have just turned him in to the school administration and they’d deal with it. The guy was apparently a perv after their clothes. The treatment he received from the girls was also perverse and sadistic.
Flee or fight back? LMAO how? He’s alone and also weaker than any one of the three girls. The only thing he could/should have done was just turn himself in to make it end but he was conditioned into this much more fucked up servile state before he knew it.
Now in university he’s probably just trapped by that same pattern. Basically he doesn’t seem to have any agency or control thanks to all the trauma. None of this scenario is realistic so applying logic is probably a waste of time.
Still, I don’t know how someone could see his facial expressions and think he’s enjoying himself outside of the actual moments of climax. He doesn’t want to get off this way, he knows it’s messed up, he knows it’s getting in the way of the kind of life and university experience he wants.
The whole group of them need intensive individual counselling.
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How? By doing what you said in the first place and changing universities? By not engaging with their perverted games? By reporting their blackmail? Choosing not to do anything is not the same as having no choice but to obey.
It's easy to say "he won't do that because this is just a manga!!", so why can't you accept that he's NOT miserable and enjoying it because this is an ecchi manga and we need our protagonist to be a pervert so he (and us the audience) can enjoy more ecchi scenes. I genuinely can't understand how you look at this guy going back time and time again and still can't realize he's going back to them because he enjoys it
Chisaki gave him a way out without using blackmail, but he hesitated. He genuinely had to take a second to decide his freedom was worth more than a nut.
He doesn't stand up for himself or flee because he enjoys participating. (Rubbing himself on Chisaki's legs without any orders, going for a second kiss with Tsubami AND going overboard with it, trying to lick Sagawa's belly button without permission).
This guy has been a pervert through and through since the start. (The gym uniform incident). Not only that, but we have a few moments where his true nature leaks out without his knowledge (Sneaking peeks at Chisaki's panties, getting disappointed when Chisaki doesn't play with him, his internal struggle with being a pervert, sneaking glances at Sagawa's breasts, the moments he goes overboard I mentioned above).
None of those girls gave him the fetishes he has, he was already a pervert, and that's what drove him to steal Chisaki's clothes. He knows the situation is weird, but doesn't do anything about it because he is a pervert with three women who are willing to play with his dick.
In fact, his internal struggles seem to be more about what people think of him, not being left out and wanting to fit in rather than what he has been going through.
You might argue that he has those fears because of the girls, but those struggles already appear in Chapter 1 prior to his new slave contract, so it's something he has been struggling with before the plot started. What we DON'T know is if he was already a loner before or if he became a loner because he was running errands for the girls in school.
It's as if he wants to quit their contract because he's afraid of being labeled a pervert, and from what people think of him rather than what he's going through. When Chisaki gives him a way out, it literally takes him a second to shake off his pervertedness He declines because he has to reassure himself he's not a pervert (he is).
You want to talk about facial expressions? Does this look like the face of someone in despair?
Tell me which of the two displays the more negative emotions. It doesn't look like the face of a guy in despair to me. It's almost as if he's eager to obey her.
Because he's a pervert.
Because he enjoys it.
Because he's not in misery.
You say he's "conditioned" I say that's bullshit. He was always like this.
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How? By doing what you said in the first place and changing universities? By not engaging with their perverted games? By reporting their blackmail? Choosing not to do anything is not the same as having no choice but to obey.
It's easy to say "he won't do that because this is just a manga!!", so why can't you accept that he's NOT miserable and enjoying it because this is an ecchi manga and we need our protagonist to be a pervert so he (and us the audience) can enjoy more ecchi scenes. I genuinely can't understand how you look at this guy going back time and time again and still can't realize he's going back to them because he enjoys it
Chisaki gave him a way out without using blackmail, but he hesitated. He genuinely had to take a second to decide his freedom was worth more than a nut.
He doesn't stand up for himself or flee because he enjoys participating. (Rubbing himself on Chisaki's legs without any orders, going for a second kiss with Tsubami AND going overboard with it, trying to lick Tomoki's belly button without permission).
This guy has been a pervert through and through since the start. (The gym uniform incident). Not only that, but we have a few moments where his true nature leaks out without his knowledge (Sneaking peeks at Chisaki's panties, getting disappointed when Chisaki doesn't play with him, his internal struggle with being a pervert, sneaking glances at Tomoki's breasts, the moments he goes overboard I mentioned above).
None of those girls gave him the fetishes he has, he was already a pervert, and that's what drove him to steal Chisaki's clothes. He knows the situation is weird, but doesn't do anything about it because he is a pervert with three women who are willing to play with his dick.
In fact, his internal struggles seem to be more about what people think of him, not being left out and wanting to fit in rather than what he has been going through.
You might argue that he has those fears because of the girls, but those struggles already appear in Chapter 1 prior to his new slave contract, so it's something he has been struggling with before the plot started. What we DON'T know is if he was already a loner before or if he became a loner because he was running errands for the girls in school.
It's as if he wants to quit their contract because he's afraid of being labeled a pervert, and from what people think of him rather than what he's going through. When Chisaki gives him a way out, it literally takes him a second to shake off his pervertedness He declines because he has to reassure himself he's not a pervert (he is).
You want to talk about facial expressions? Does this look like the face of someone in despair?
Tell me which of the two displays the more negative emotions. It doesn't look like the face of a guy in despair to me. It's almost as if he's eager to obey her.
Because he's a pervert.
Because he enjoys it.
Because he's not in misery.
You say he's "conditioned" I say that's bullshit. He was always like this.
If he was really the way you described him then he would have been miserable during his last year of high school and would have probably chased after the girls who left. In fact, he was relieved, and used it as the opportunity he needed to turn around his life.
All of these “choices“ you are claiming he had are fallacies because he is not mentally stable. It’s the equivalent of blaming a girl who sticks with her abusive partner and claiming that she likes it. Logically she can leave at any time, right? Abuse does long term psychological damage that affects decision making.
If you still aren’t convinced I don’t know what to say.
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he didn't feel relieved he literally couldn't bust a nut for three years. He only said he "worked hard to forget that complex" but that doesn't mean shit since he literally still has it
yknow what, fuck it youre right. We will never be able to discuss this properly
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Bro can someone reply when theres idk like atleast 40 ish chapters, im tryna skim through this
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How? By doing what you said in the first place and changing universities? By not engaging with their perverted games? By reporting their blackmail? Choosing not to do anything is not the same as having no choice but to obey.
It's easy to say "he won't do that because this is just a manga!!", so why can't you accept that he's NOT miserable and enjoying it because this is an ecchi manga and we need our protagonist to be a pervert so he (and us the audience) can enjoy more ecchi scenes. I genuinely can't understand how you look at this guy going back time and time again and still can't realize he's going back to them because he enjoys it
Chisaki gave him a way out without using blackmail, but he hesitated. He genuinely had to take a second to decide his freedom was worth more than a nut.
He doesn't stand up for himself or flee because he enjoys participating. (Rubbing himself on Chisaki's legs without any orders, going for a second kiss with Tsubami AND going overboard with it, trying to lick Sagawa's belly button without permission).
This guy has been a pervert through and through since the start. (The gym uniform incident). Not only that, but we have a few moments where his true nature leaks out without his knowledge (Sneaking peeks at Chisaki's panties, getting disappointed when Chisaki doesn't play with him, his internal struggle with being a pervert, sneaking glances at Sagawa's breasts, the moments he goes overboard I mentioned above).
None of those girls gave him the fetishes he has, he was already a pervert, and that's what drove him to steal Chisaki's clothes. He knows the situation is weird, but doesn't do anything about it because he is a pervert with three women who are willing to play with his dick.
In fact, his internal struggles seem to be more about what people think of him, not being left out and wanting to fit in rather than what he has been going through.
You might argue that he has those fears because of the girls, but those struggles already appear in Chapter 1 prior to his new slave contract, so it's something he has been struggling with before the plot started. What we DON'T know is if he was already a loner before or if he became a loner because he was running errands for the girls in school.
It's as if he wants to quit their contract because he's afraid of being labeled a pervert, and from what people think of him rather than what he's going through. When Chisaki gives him a way out, it literally takes him a second to shake off his pervertedness He declines because he has to reassure himself he's not a pervert (he is).
You want to talk about facial expressions? Does this look like the face of someone in despair?
Tell me which of the two displays the more negative emotions. It doesn't look like the face of a guy in despair to me. It's almost as if he's eager to obey her.
Because he's a pervert.
Because he enjoys it.
Because he's not in misery.
You say he's "conditioned" I say that's bullshit. He was always like this.
Man, where were you when I was on the debate team?
