Ueno-kun wa Kaihatsuzumi - Ch. 50 - Kiss

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I know that kiss has kind of taken over the discussion but can we talk about the crazy shit those guys said to the girls at the beginning of the chapter?

Were they all drunk or something? The idea of saying stuff like that to a woman’s face is just mind blowing. They thought it was a good way to pick them up too? Yikes…
it's the literal commonplace in manga for douchebags. similar to "OE OE, YOU BUMPED INTO ME, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT EH"
 
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What do you guys think about Ueno's reaction? Oddly enough he looks violently pissed. But in the 2 previous panels we see 1. ueono's eye 2. he's looking at her slidding her tongue into the dude
So I'm thinking he isn't pissed at "wtf man get off her!" more like "you fucking slut..." which would be character development but I don't believe is what's gonna happen
 
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I not minding ueno bullied by girl but Netorare idea is to far , Moka is worstest from them all even chisaki look decent, lesbian mid, and Tsubomi bestest girl
 
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Most likely, moka is a good girl but she clearly likes sex and has an amazing compatibility with that dude.
Yup, and let’s face it, Ueno is not equipped well enough to reprogram her. He doesn’t have the looks, body, experience, technique, or the dick required to do the job. Plus, he shouldn’t have to compete with the memory of her ex in the first place.

Above everything he needs someone who makes him feel secure and clearly Moka isn’t that person. Ueno thought that she was but that kiss hopefully made her nature clear.
 
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What do you guys think about Ueno's reaction? Oddly enough he looks violently pissed. But in the 2 previous panels we see 1. ueono's eye 2. he's looking at her slidding her tongue into the dude
So I'm thinking he isn't pissed at "wtf man get off her!" more like "you fucking slut..." which would be character development but I don't believe is what's gonna happen

I think Ueno is clearly shellshocked and confused as all hell on why his friend, the person who confessed her feelings to him, is making out with her ex in front of him. It does compound the situation on how Ueno would reply to Moka's confession. Ueno does see himself as undateable due to his programming. He could say no to her, thinking they are both not ready to enter a relationship together.

Yup, and let’s face it, Ueno is not equipped well enough to reprogram her. He doesn’t have the looks, body, experience, technique, or the dick required to do the job. Plus, he shouldn’t have to compete with the memory of her ex in the first place.

Above everything he needs someone who makes him feel secure and clearly Moka isn’t that person. Ueno thought that she was but that kiss hopefully made her nature clear.

Maybe not, but the attempt will be made. Ueno and Moka are kindred spirits, both programmed to have desires that they despise. Moka's sister told Ueno that if he can't overcome his goal, find someone with a similar goal to help breakthrough. Once Ueno realize Moka is just like him, he will admit the truth to her as she will to him. Now, will Ueno and Moka date after sharing their vulnerabilities? Uh...I can see a scenario where they will enter a relationship after the trip, where they will date partly to keep themselves accountable. If that happens, how the relationship will work out will depends on if they're sexually compatible because if they're not, their relationship will crumble due to one of them relapsing.
 
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I think Ueno is clearly shellshocked and confused as all hell on why his friend, the person who confessed her feelings to him, is making out with her ex in front of him. It does compound the situation on how Ueno would reply to Moka's confession. Ueno does see himself as undateable due to his programming. He could say no to her, thinking they are both not ready to enter a relationship together.
I really hope this doesn't go the route "oh you are just like me, you're a victim to your impulses so I get what happened and its not your fault". Also its kinda fucking weird the 3 main chicks are getting pissed at emo kun for doing the same thing they do to ueno
 
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Fuck the police, there's a much more effective way of eliminating scums of the earth like that.
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[Idk where this image is from but it fits regardless. 😂]
This is from the Heretic Slayer Series by Zurikishi.
 
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People are saying this is a NTR series now, but in that case, wasn't it already since Moka herself is getting triple NTR'd too?
 
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People are saying this is a NTR series now, but in that case, wasn't it already since Moka herself is getting triple NTR'd too?
its only NTR if the main character, the one you should empathize with, gets cucked. Otherwise every hentai porking a housewife would be NTR. Also it's not the same case since this happened after Moka confessed which makes her kissing the ex back an actual betrayal.

The whole monologue about how she's serious about Ueno right before she got off kissing him back in spite of her will makes it classic NTR. Like she can't HELP HERSELF from tongue wrestling the guy because her body gets so turned on by him that its trumps her rational choices. Which places Ueno in the position of the cuck. She's even sucking on his tongue knowing Ueno is watching!
 
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People are saying this is a NTR series now, but in that case, wasn't it already since Moka herself is getting triple NTR'd too?

Also, as far as the bully trio are aware, besides Chisaki at this point, Ueno and Moka are platonic friends who have no romantic interest between each other.
 
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I think Ueno is clearly shellshocked and confused as all hell on why his friend, the person who confessed her feelings to him, is making out with her ex in front of him. It does compound the situation on how Ueno would reply to Moka's confession. Ueno does see himself as undateable due to his programming. He could say no to her, thinking they are both not ready to enter a relationship together.



Maybe not, but the attempt will be made. Ueno and Moka are kindred spirits, both programmed to have desires that they despise. Moka's sister told Ueno that if he can't overcome his goal, find someone with a similar goal to help breakthrough. Once Ueno realize Moka is just like him, he will admit the truth to her as she will to him. Now, will Ueno and Moka date after sharing their vulnerabilities? Uh...I can see a scenario where they will enter a relationship after the trip, where they will date partly to keep themselves accountable. If that happens, how the relationship will work out will depends on if they're sexually compatible because if they're not, their relationship will crumble due to one of them relapsing.
First, Manaka isn't in love with Ueno-kun. Second, Manaka was only pressured by her university friend to confess her feelings quickly; she only did it because her friend forced her. Third, she has sexual experience; when she had sex with her ex-boyfriend, she forgot about her problems, while Ueno is a virgin and has no experience. The sad thing is that Ueno-kun has been alone his whole life. He has no friends, no first love, and his family only includes his grandmother, but he couldn't express his feelings. His mother is only focused on her work and doesn't care about him. He only had those three stalkers in his life, nothing else. And most importantly, Ueno-kun isn't in love with Manaka. Their problems are the same but very different. Monaka already knows what pleasure is, and Ueno-kun doesn't. They can resolve their issues, but if they become intimate, they'll have a problem. Ueno-kun is the one who lets himself be dominated, and Manaka is the one who likes to be dominated. That's why it's better for them to be friends because they have the same problem, but not a couple for the moment. It's like one alcoholic who only has alcohol problems and another who has alcohol and drug problems; they have the same problem but are different. They wouldn't be a couple; they're better off as friends. If Monaka were to start a relationship without solving her problem, it would have been a very bad relationship. Manaka can move on, but the scars remain on the next page, and it takes a long time for those scars to disappear.
 
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Also, as far as the bully trio are aware, besides Chisaki at this point, Ueno and Moka are platonic friends who have no romantic interest between each other.
We have to wait for Chisaki's reaction when she finds out about the love letter; we have to wait to see how she will take it.
 
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When Manaka was talking about whether Ueno-kun "was serious," it was a lie because Manaka's gaze was pointing downwards. If that was serious, she should have looked Ueno-kun directly in the eyes, not down.
 

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