Uesugi-kun Wants to Quit Being a Girl - Ch. 7

[toxxable]

that translation note has violence and vitriol in each word and i am living for it

 

[MidnighTea]

I believe you're thinking of Naisho no Tsubomi, which was definitely meant to be a sex-ed manga for young girls, but she went into a fair bit of detail about Yuuko's period in Mizuiro Jidai (aka Aqua Age ) as well, so this next chapter might be uncomfortable for some of the guys. (And if this series ever gets animated I expect a bunch of guys to totally lose their minds over the episode dealing with it, like they did over Mahiro getting a period in Onimai.)

Those are minds worth losing. Developing growing empathy for people on the other side of the divide is an amazing thing and I dearly, dearly love works that make it more possible. Be it understanding periods in more detail -- or indeed, the minigame of pissing with male equipment or its silliness while trying to wake up.

 

[the_blip]

So hyped for my favourite trope: guy's first period.

girls not being able to control emotions?
Is that really something backed by science? Is that not just some stereotypical trash? At the most it might be a societal condition, right? It is not something biological, right?

There absolutely is a difference in mindset between men and women. Estrogen and testosterone affect the brain chemistry. Particularly, changes in these hormones can affect mood massively.

Both boys and girls experience big mood swings during puberty, as they both experience big changes in their hormones. Women experience similar changes, though not as drastic, during the period cycle.

Women are also more 'emotional' than men. I disagree with the phrasing of it, men can be just as emotional, it's just that the emotions are different, but the emotions that women tend to feel greater than men we call 'emotional' and the emotions men tend to feel greater just aren't for some reason.

As someone who's experienced both, testosterone tends to make you angry and irritated more easily, whereas estrogen tends to make you upset and cry more easily. Obviously there's different levels for everybody, and some people can manage those feelings better than others, but the general trends are still true.

 

[thatother1dude]

It's neat how the framing of Kei-chan's hair can make it look more or less like their male hairstyle. Like when they say they never thought Eito would call them "Uesugi", the long parts are mostly off-panel, in the back, or obscured by speech balloons.

Some comments for chapter 4 figured Uesugi's chest was just that sensitive because it was growing. I think it was meant as a early menstrual syndrome, even if I'm not sure how realistic the timing is.

Oof getting tired of "Girls are weaker" type shit in genderbend mangas.

You're equivocating "the story treats girls as inherently weaker than boys" with "a pubescent girl briefly wonders if being female makes them incapable of competing with a boy (and in context it's clear it does not)".

studies have shown that women who live together will tend to shift their cycles based on each others' menstrual cycles, so Keisuke's sister and mother could be influencing her body already.

That theory become well-known when it was published, but has been mostly discredited.

 

[Monstrengo]

After re-reading this, I can't help but wonder what Eito will do. He has two options: take Keisuke back home (what happens to the bikes is a toss up), or call Nee-Chan and ask for her help.
Either way, I get the feeling that Nee-Chan won't be happy and might be angry at Eito, but I could be wrong.

 

[thatother1dude]

@wyste : Besides catching up so fast, I'm very pleased with the schedule you're aiming for. Even more than speed (one week is still very fast!), I really appreciate a consistent release time, especially at the start of the weekend.

The TL Note say the raw updates at "8:00am Japan Standard Time", but I think you meant to put "8:00am Pacific Time", which is midnight JST.

After re-reading this, I can't help but wonder what Eito will do. He has two options: take Keisuke back home (what happens to the bikes is a toss up), or call Nee-Chan and ask for her help.
Either way, I get the feeling that Nee-Chan won't be happy and might be angry at Eito, but I could be wrong.

Eito should consider calling an ambulance, even if he does figure out these are menstrual symptoms. The confusion, exhaustion, and emotional stress may be bigger problems, but either way Keisuke can barely stand.

If not, the two of them will probably go home together, maybe taking a bus depending on how far away they are. Most people in urban Japan don't have cars, so Keisuke's mother probably can't get her kid home any faster herself. I don't think Keisuke is mad enough at Eito to refuse his help. (They can leave the bikes chained to the convenience store racks to pick up later.)

Eito isn't guiltless as far as their argument went, but I don't see what Keisuke's family would be angry at him for. He noticed Keisuke was exhausted and told them not to push themselves.

 

[urtoast]

I've read enough M->F TSF to know what's going on here.

 

[manabi]

So hyped for my favourite trope: guy's first period.


There absolutely is a difference in mindset between men and women. Estrogen and testosterone affect the brain chemistry. Particularly, changes in these hormones can affect mood massively.

Both boys and girls experience big mood swings during puberty, as they both experience big changes in their hormones. Women experience similar changes, though not as drastic, during the period cycle.

Women are also more 'emotional' than men. I disagree with the phrasing of it, men can be just as emotional, it's just that the emotions are different, but the emotions that women tend to feel greater than men we call 'emotional' and the emotions men tend to feel greater just aren't for some reason.

As someone who's experienced both, testosterone tends to make you angry and irritated more easily, whereas estrogen tends to make you upset and cry more easily. Obviously there's different levels for everybody, and some people can manage those feelings better than others, but the general trends are still true.

And along those lines it's total bullshit how society treats boys that cry. I knew a guy growing up that's reaction to getting angry or really upset was to start crying. It wasn't something he could control (he's told me it still happens as an adult, but he's better at hiding it), but of course everyone made fun of him. (Especially the other kids.) If it was a girl doing that, the reaction wouldn't be as bad, although girls that cry a lot do get made fun of. (Although girls that are crybabies tend to be thought of as cute by a lot of guys, so it's not as bad.)

I've always wondered what's going on with his body and mind that causes that reaction. It seems that the adrenaline wearing off is the main trigger, which is how he can control it better as an adult. (Basically stay mad until out of sight.) That really does sound more like an estrogen thing, but he's a cis male.

 

[RageMage120]

I don't want to wait so long between each chapter release but oh well.

 

[BULLETTIME11]

I believe you're thinking of Naisho no Tsubomi, which was definitely meant to be a sex-ed manga for young girls, but she went into a fair bit of detail about Yuuko's period in Mizuiro Jidai (aka Aqua Age ) as well, so this next chapter might be uncomfortable for some of the guys. (And if this series ever gets animated I expect a bunch of guys to totally lose their minds over the episode dealing with it, like they did over Mahiro getting a period in Onimai.)

And yeah, weakness, stomach cramps, highly emotional to the point that they don't even understand why, Uesugi's definitely about to learn about the lovely hormonal rollercoaster that becoming a girl has put him on. I really hope Noel, his sister, mother or one of the other girls from his class happen by to help out.

That brings up something I've thought about with genderbender manga/anime: What determines how the menstrual cycle plays out in the newly minted girl's body? There's a couple of possibilities I've thought of, it could start the day they change. Although where does it start? With ovulation? (Two weeks to period.) With the day after the menstrual bleeding would have ended? (Three weeks.) Hell, with the period? (That'd be one hell of a shock, kind of surprised the goddess didn't do that to him.) It could be in the midst of where it would be if they'd been born a girl. (The change is magic, so why not?) Or like you suggested, maybe being around other girls will trigger it.

If you want to really hurt your brain, try to figure out how Ranma from Ranma ½'s period would work. Does it track with a monthly cycle regardless of when he changes? Only tracks with time spent in a female body? Something else entirely? It's where I first thought of the question and that one still hurts my brain if I think about it too much.

Almost certainly, since it's combined with muscle weakness and emotional instability. Breaking down crying over stuff is very common early on, it's hard to learn how to manage it. That's why teenage girls are so renowned for being moody as hell.

It's a hate symbol, code for Heil Hitler, because H is the eighth letter of the alphabet. You'll also see it combined with 14 for "14 words" which you can look up yourself, because I'm not quoting the fourteen word sentence it refers to. I was behind a car with a 1488 bumper sticker on it once and it really pissed me off. Most people aren't that openly racist, though, thankfully. (And to be clear, when they're combined it's unambiguously a hate symbol, not say someone that graduated high school in 1988.)

Thanks for informing me, some people really are trying to get extra esoteric with their extremist ideologies these days. I'd rather it be kept simple that way I can avoid it easier

 

[AncientWatcher]

Chapter 8's gonna be the period chapter. Calling it right now.

 

[Georgeorat]

Wow, yeah, we all called it -- a major theme is the emotional separation walls that people feel due to social gender filters. Noel calling the protag "Kei-chan" again in the same chapter Eito started calling them "Uesugi" again. Notice Eito asked despite knowing full well what his friend was doing: that was resentment towards Noel if I ever saw it. I have to wonder what in the world a seemingly sweet girl like Noel could have ever done to earn it. My guess is that he's gay (notice he averts his eyes in chapter 1 when "BL" is brought up) was lowkey attracted to Uesugi and resented the latter's crush on her. Recent events have taken his best friend even further away

You know, I find it kinda ironic that you had to label him as gay...while talking about social (sexual) filters.
Plus as he said it himself, to him, keisuke is keisuke.

 

[InsertRam]

Nice

 

[Nulll]

Poor eito, he just asked what his friend was doing the other day and the mc exploded on him. then guy calls the mc by her surname and she explodes on him again after she was storming off on her own.

 

[manabi]

Thanks for informing me, some people really are trying to get extra esoteric with their extremist ideologies these days. I'd rather it be kept simple that way I can avoid it easier

No problem. That's exactly why they do that though, to make it easier to use it in polite society without regular people realizing it's a hate symbol and avoid them/it. As people learn about it they start using something more obscure. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.

 

[bambooex]

The TL note regarding the SEA translators reminds me of when anime subs were thriving. Classic Americans thinking they are the center of the world. Unnecessarily rude. Yes TL, you are right, i got tired of reading American slang slop localizations so I went to study Japanese a long time ago. But Im too dumb to locate raws so I use mangadex as a site to preview manga before I buy the physical copy.