Usagi Drop

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@Glomoro:

I personally always felt Usagi Drop was a betrayal because it had up 'till then been the poster child for having a manga drama with a realistic kid (instead of just the usual adult-minds-in-child-form), a real portrayal of family and adoptive parenthood, but also for, well, not being what it ultimately turned into.

At some point, a problem in fiction becomes reflective of a problem in society, and Usagi Drop's ending is one of the things (though not the only thing: Various other series, a brief trip through stores in Akihabara when I was in Japan, and some other things play into it) that makes me wonder seriously what's gone off-tack in Japan, such that these are the prevailing winds in my favorite entertainment medium.
 
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I had to drop it. I loved it up through Chapter 24, but the time skip was weird and I'd already been spoiled on the ending. I highly encourage anyone to read the first 24 chapters, but can't recommend anything after that.
 
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Some interesting things about responsibility, parenting and what it means to be an adult. At other times, it was kind of a sluggish drag and the romantic angle -- regardless of whether you liked the paring or not -- was emotionally and dramatically shallow.
 
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Ещё давно я посмотрел аниме, но тут снова вспомнил про него... И стало интересно "А что там с мангой?" Захотелось продолжения полюбившейся истории...
"Будьте осторожны со своими желаниями — они имеют свойство сбываться." - как сказал один писатель.

Это отзыв на полный сюжет манги и аниме Usagi Drop.
БУДУТ ЖЁСТКИЕ СПОЙЛЕРЫ!

Итак, весь сюжет Usagi Drop можно разделить на "до" и "после". И так уж получилось, что эта точка разделения совпала с окончанием истории в аниме и её продолжением в манге.

Что я увидел в аниме (первые 24 главы манги).

Это была история про Дайкити - тридцатилетнего мужика, которому стало жалко Рин - брошенную маленькую девочку, совсем недавно потерявшую единственного дорогого ей человека.
На протяжении всего аниме я видел, как крепли узы между взрослым человеком и ребёнком. Семейные узы. Дайкити, в конце концов, пожертвовал карьерой ради воспитания ребёнка, которая стала ему как дочь.

Аниме, казалось, поставило многоточие в истории, но открыло перспективы дальнейших отношений.

Юкари - разведённая женщина, воспитывающая Коуку. Нам дали понять, что Юкари и Дайкити неравнодушны друг к другу, а Рин и Коука отлично ладили. Стандартная, но трогательная любовная линия. Умиляться родительским отношениям Дайкити к Рин я тоже не устал.
Продолжение этих отношений я и хотел узнать, когда начал читать мангу.


ИТАК, МАНГА (спойлеры)...
25 глава манги – прошло десять лет с конца аниме (24 главы манги).
Рин выросла и превратилась в милую шестнадцатилетнюю девушку.
Дайкити постарел. Юкари и Дайкити всё также неравнодушны друг к другу, но за 10 лет их отношения так и не сдвинулись с мёртвой точки. А вот Коука пошёл по наклонной и стал хулиганом.

Теперь в центре сюжета не отношения между родителем и ребёнком, а молодёжная романтическая драма. Главные и второстепенные герои теперь стремятся определить - кто кого в итоге любит.
Дайкити признался Юкари, та его отвергла, но всё ещё любит. Рин любит Коуку. Коука вроде как тоже Любит Рин, но ему мешают его предыдущая девушка, из времён, когда он был хулиганом.

Как отдельное произведение - вполне не плохой сюжет.
Однако, ещё главу назад я видел, как эти персонажи пешком под стол ходили да в постель писались.
Тяжелее всего, в этой истории с подменой жанров, оказались наблюдать за тем, как ещё 15 минут назад играющие дети, теперь играют в любовь с сексуальным подтекстом.

И тем ошеломительнее оказался итог.

Юкари окончательно отказывает Дайкити, соврав, что у неё есть ухажёр. (Зачем? Наверное, надоели эти полуотношения с интенсивностью улитки.) Между тем Коука, после множества отказов, снова признаётся Рин в своих чувствах, та вроде даже принимает их. До этого, как я и сказал, мешало хулиганское прошлое Коуки и его отношения с другой девушкой. Однако та девушка врёт, что она беременна. Коука рассказывает Дайкити и Рин о ребёнке, однако Рин, пусть и с ах (о_О)ми глазами разгадывает ложь девушки-хулиганки. Теперь, уже с помощью Рин, Коука рвёт все отношения с девушкой-хулиганкой. И вроде хеппи энд, но нет. Рин оставляет Коуку в друзьях "люблю как брата", не смотря на, всем известные любовные чувства Коуки к Рин.
Все остались одиноки, спасибо, этого я и ждал! (sarcasm)
Но, с художественной точки зрения такой конец имел бы место быть. Типа, не всё получается так как хотелось бы, жизнь жестока и т.п.
Однако это далеко не конец.

В третьем акте подмены жанров нас ждёт ОНА - "ЗАПРЕТНАЯ ЛЮБОВЬ!" (примерно, 43 глава манги)
Не сложно догадаться между кем и кем, но я скажу.
Рин, после разрыва с Коукой начинает потихоньку осознавать, что любит Дайкити не как отца, а как мужчину. Параллельно она находит свою биологическую маму, получает у неё ачивку "С Дайкити - не кровные родственники" и полностью сваливает свою любовь на бедного отца. Это жёстко.
Пожалуй, САМАЯ ЖЕСТОКАЯ СЦЕНА во всей манге.

Позицию Рин можно понять - молодая, горячая, в голове гормоны, да даже если это чистая любовь, ну не видит она с высоты своего возраста в этом проблемы.
Однако взглянем на это со стороны Дайкити.
Вот он на протяжении 10 лет, начиная с детского сада воспитывал девочку как свою дочь, жертвовал ради неё всем. А тут она приходит к тебе и заявляет, что любит тебя как мужчину. У нормального отца, я думаю, возникнет нехилое такое чувство вины - ведь это он где-то ошибся, когда воспитывал ребёнка. И как в этом маленьком создании, которое взрастил своими руками видеть объект сексуального влечения? Да тут даже не в возрасте дело. Это ломает всё! Всю жизнь! И плевать, что, в конце концов, они не являлись друг другу кровными родственниками. Десять лет заботы о ребёнке не вычеркнуть из памяти! Да даже мангака не смог изобразить нечто настолько противоестественное. Он не показал ни поцелуя, ни постельной сцены между Рин и Дайкити.

И тут штука в том, что по отдельности я ничего не имею против провокационных жанров. Межвозрастная любовь - да пожалуйста. Инцест - с кем не бывает. Но при условии, что люди до этого имели мало точек соприкосновения и резко начали узнавать друг друга - обоюдно видеть не человека, а любовника. Без обоюдности - это изнасилование.

Но, имеем то, что имеем.
Бережно выстроенные отношения между людьми уничтожили в труху, а за место них нам показали недоинцест мужика с малолеткой.
Мангака, как в Oreimo до конца гнёт свою линию, невзирая логике.
Вот вроде и не придерёшься особо, не инцест, не измена, не педофилия, все в конце вроде как довольны, но на душе то мерзонько...

В ПЕРВЫЙ РАЗ У МЕНЯ ТАКИЕ СМЕШАННЫЕ ЧУВСТВА ОТ ТОГО, ЧТО ПРОЧИТАЛ ПРОДОЛЖЕНИЕ.

И самое забавное, я начинаю видеть в этом логику. Изначально, в манге частенько делали акцент на не по годам умную, красивую, развитую Рин. Будто пытались сконцентрировать акцент на её сексуальности. И сцены родителя и ребёнка можно трактовать как некий фетиш. Хрупкое, притягательное создание, которому нужна защита... Что ж... В этом случае манга достигла своего апогея.

Да... Такого не забыть... Будто остатки непорочности, что во мне были, собрали вместе и жёстко поимели в задницу.

Больше всего жаль Дайкити...

P.S. Не знаю как склоняется имя Коука.
 
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I like to pretend that the second part doesn’t exist. I am still traumatized till this day.

A very wise choice that the anime ended after the first part. I still couldn’t believe that it ended in such way. I found it unrealistic that
Daikichi could have any romantic interest in the daughter he has been bringing up. Even if he has no romantic interest, it is still unrealistic that he would agree to the marriage. Till the end, I was cheering for the adult x adult pair and the child x child pair. It might be obvious and cliche, but it would have made me so happy. Every time I think if the ending in this manga, it always brings great sadness. Such a pity. What a waste of characters. In my own mind, this manga ends in tragedy. No one is truly happy (despite what the manga might say. )

I tried convincing myself that this manga is like life in that you can’t always get what you want, but then I realized that manga is one of the things that can be manipulated to get the result you want. Damn being cliche, damn being unoriginal. I don’t care. I really really want the happy ending. I would literally pay a good sum of money just to see the ending it deserves.
 
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Welp... this was definitely not what I was expecting but enjoyable non the less.
I give it a 8 out of 10. It's a 10/10 until chapter 24 tho.
 
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The most controversial manga I have ever read. Not because it's content is that controversial, but because of the lost potential. I'm convinced that if there was no time skip, this manga could've gone down as a masterpiece. Now I don't particularly mind the ending, my problem is with the time skip. I see no reason for it.
I don't know why the author didn't choose to milk this series for all it's worth, even if she threw in a hundred chapters of just filler material, like DIachi and Rin go on vacation or go fishing or go to a pottery class, I bet people would still think this was a masterpiece, it'd be extremely famous, it'd even make its way into the western media. She could've even gone on hiatus, instead of doing a time skip.

It's like what was wrong with her editor? Her publishing company? Did they not see how much potential the series had? Did they not think things through and realize, maybe this time skip thing is not the smartest move right now (or ever). I wouldn't even mind if Usagi Drop had ended up being 300 chapters of no plot progression whatsoever, there's dozens of other manga that don't deserve so many chapters yet they still get them, why couldn't Usagi get them instead.

Well Rant over, still one of my favorite manga of all time, I'm just sad that it couldn't reach more people.
 
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There are tons and tons of manga about teasing imouto that end up with the brother never being with his sister since "incest is bad."

And then there's always this, standing on top of 'em all, and likely never leaving this place. The boldest, the most courageous of them all. Unita-sensei did what everyone else always fails to do. She's the only one who had enough strength. This manga is basically a hand tool for revealing hypocrisy. It most likely wasn't intended as such, and yet, like all the greatest things, it became one on its own.

Every time I read comments and reactions to this marvelous work, I can't help but being reminded of Freud's "Totem and Taboo." Such daring works [the manga, I mean] always success at showing that, no matter just how much people fashion themselves being "open-minded," most of them are as deeply rooted in common rules and behavioral patters as every other. I truly love this work not so much for its contents themselves, but for the inevitable social effect it causes. And the most brilliant part is that there is absolutely nothing very tricky, sly, smart or even elaborate about this work that would cause people to throw away their masks of tolerance and acceptance. There is only one, simple, straightforward idea behind this work. And this extremely simple idea causes an enormous effect, as it touches upon the most fundamental parts of social taboos that most people disgust just because they were taught so. This work shines behind the scenes, really contrasting those, that only pretend of being open-minded, and those that are willing to rattle the very basics of social norm in the pursuit of curiosity.

And then there always this, standing on top of 'em all, and likely never leaving this place. The boldest, the most courageous of them all. Unita-sensei what everyone else always fail to do. She's the only one who had enough.

A story about a parent and a child, which shows, that even nowadays social stigmas are still prevalent, and that there's still a large difference between Western and Eastern cultures.
 
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Only thing I disliked about the timeskip was that it was kinda boring.
 
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@gevudan agreed this manga could've pull a "yatsuba-to" and milk more of it. At least on the bright side it got an ending and probably an ending that the author intended it to have.

@N0Mi0 basically you're saying unita sensei is a chad for putting incest while other incest baity manga give some half ass story. I agree with you.
 
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i remember reading this manga a long time ago, i was maybe, 15 or so (like 6 or 7 years ago), i dont really remember what i thought about the ending, i do remember i liked kouki's mom, and sincerelly, even though i dont remember if i liked it or not, i wasnt disgusted as many others about the ending thing,
im western and dont really feel the age gap a "bad" thing, maybe because ive seen it from close, my grandpa had more than just a few partners during his life (not at the same time, children with 4 of them), his last partner he stayed over forty years until he died, they started their relationship when she around twenty and he was around fortysomething, and they were happy.
that wasnt that rare of a relationship (maybe given weird stares by people who hadnt seen something like that personally before), and its a fairly common thing to happen to famous western people, if someone complain because of the age gap, they are being either hipocrital or narrow minded, you may not like it, but you dont have the right to taboocize a relationship as long as its their free will (make note, the free will of a child, its not a valid free will, theres a reason theres a "legal age", its to determine when it can be valid to assume they know what consecuences are and to be resposibles of themselves). if you dont like the age gap, well, too bad for you, drop it or something but dont create propaganda against something just cause you dont like it, this isnt pedo as some comments previously said in disgust, shes an adult and if she wants to marry a middle aged man thats on her, stop being butthurt cause the fictional girl doesnt share your moral view.
now, the shift from father to lover is at least, a little weird, maybe the only thing it keeps it from being outright inmoral its the no blood relation between the two, here i believe it depends on character, its about the view, the same as normal couples, in what moment the view of that fellow female shifts from "girl" to "friend" and from "friend" to "girl i like"? when a father sees his daughter the view has the "daughter" filter on it, but now the questions, what is it that it takes to shift that filter view? may it be weaker compared to normal cause he knows she isnt his daughter? may the sight of her adult self shift the "daughter" to "woman" filter? did her advances on him made some cracks on the filter? honetly i dont know, i would need to ask a real, professional psychologist on this (my grandpa was a psychiatrist, i could have asked him if he were still alive), does father dont feel lust after their daughters? if not, why not? i dont know as im not a father myself, but i know that i dont feel lust after my little sisters, is it because they are far too young or is it beacuse they are the sisters i saw grow while changing their diappers? or is it just cause they are my blood related sisters? there has to be an study about this somewhere, but unless given a reason i wont search for it.
so im just gonna say, its one of two things, either he saw her as a woman once she grew up and cant deny he doesnt feel atracted to her so he complied oooor he just accepted that she wanted to be his bride instead of his daughter and drifted along cause he just really cant go against her.
if someone asked me i would say i liked the manga, and that they decide themselves what they think about the ending
edit: i forgot to put the spoiler tag
 
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I just wanted to wholeheartedly say fuck this manga, fuck this ending, and fuck all the weirdos who liked it. Y'all are gross as fuck. I already read it years ago and forgot about it but I just saw a thumbnail of the anime and all the rage and anger came rushing back instantly.
Anime: 9/10 made me want to be a father
Manga: 0/10 made me want to beat the author, editor, and the entire fucking publishing company for green lighting this shit
 
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Remember people, only the anime exists. The manga is a bad adaptation. This is my headcanon.
 
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@Shinobu

It's not bad because of the
incest ending
but of the retarded way the author did it. It's not like it was real
incest
but still it's lame as stupid the way it was handled. After the
timeskip
I expected an ending of the MC taking his daughter to the altar, BUT NOT LIKE THIS.

I personally prefer My Girl ending, it was wholesome and good. I have to admit that Usagi Drop is way better at the first half than the whole My Girl.
 
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@lokithus no it's bad because the decision to make your main character turn his adopted blood kid into a romantic interest is so fucking stupid and so fucked up that creepy does not even come close to describing this bullshit
 
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@Shinobu

>adoped blood kid

AFAIK
she isn't MC's blood relative. The grandpa took Rin's mom under his care because he felt pity of her mom being a retarded young single mom and made Rin his daughter so she won't be ashamed for not having a dad.
That grandpa was based as fuck, he didn't give a fuck about what his family thought about it. That said, that's what I remember maybe I am wrong, I don't want to read the whole thing again to find out.

tl;dr: It was not real incest, but I could be wrong.
 

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