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The story is cute, but I wanted to understand why, since she was already dressing all feminine when she started going to another school, why didn't she transition centuries before if she liked him? She waited for him to say something and now she has to live this double life.
 
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The story is cute, but I wanted to understand why, since she was already dressing all feminine when she started going to another school, why didn't she transition centuries before if she liked him? She waited for him to say something and now she has to live this double life.
Because she's a teenager?
 
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Because she's a teenager?
Being a teenager is one thing, I know we do stupid things, but now to have all this trouble when she already dresses like that every day?
The boy isn't stupid enough to find it strange over the years, especially after living together every day. She could have simply lived her normal life and he could have gotten used to it little by little.
 
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Being a teenager is one thing, I know we do stupid things, but now to have all this trouble when she already dresses like that every day?
The boy isn't stupid enough to find it strange over the years, especially after living together every day. She could have simply lived her normal life and he could have gotten used to it little by little.
I haven't been a teenager for over fifteen years, but one thing I remember vividly is being unbelievably stupid no, naive is a better word for it, while thinking I was a genius on various topics.

You and I know that it's reasonable for people to adjust over time, but I've been here twice as long as the characters' stated age. I've already been there.

But for Wakaba, her entire ten+ years with Daiki has been him having visceral, almost traumatic experiences being around girls. Anyone (well, anyone at her age) would reason that suddenly becoming feminine could trigger a similarly bad response, and avoid her as a result.

Hormones and the general discomfort of not knowing what someone close to you is thinking is more than enough to trigger a bunch of nonsensical behavior. Throw in barely knowing what the opposite sex really is since puberty only kicked in recently, and you have a cocktail of mental chaos.

And, for a drier response to the question of "why she doin' this":
Because if she didn't, we wouldn't have a story, now would we?
 
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I haven't been a teenager for over fifteen years, but one thing I remember vividly is being unbelievably stupid no, naive is a better word for it, while thinking I was a genius on various topics.

You and I know that it's reasonable for people to adjust over time, but I've been here twice as long as the characters' stated age. I've already been there.

But for Wakaba, her entire ten+ years with Daiki has been him having visceral, almost traumatic experiences being around girls. Anyone (well, anyone at her age) would reason that suddenly becoming feminine could trigger a similarly bad response, and avoid her as a result.

Hormones and the general discomfort of not knowing what someone close to you is thinking is more than enough to trigger a bunch of nonsensical behavior. Throw in barely knowing what the opposite sex really is since puberty only kicked in recently, and you have a cocktail of mental chaos.

And, for a drier response to the question of "why she doin' this":
Because if she didn't, we wouldn't have a story, now would we?
I'm sorry, but no... adolescence begins at 12 and they are 16/17. She's had plenty of years to live her life without this secret about her childhood friend, and more importantly, her BEST FRIEND. This is blatant lying, and that's not healthy; it's quite toxic.

If you have a friend of many years and you think he's going to leave you because you're dressing the way you like... can you really consider him your friend, much less a lover?

Teenagers are innocent, naive, and many other things, but this is a stupid attitude and shows a lack of trust in the person they love.
 
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I'm sorry, but no... adolescence begins at 12 and they are 16/17. She's had plenty of years to live her life without this secret about her childhood friend, and more importantly, her BEST FRIEND. This is blatant lying, and that's not healthy; it's quite toxic.

If you have a friend of many years and you think he's going to leave you because you're dressing the way you like... can you really consider him your friend, much less a lover?

Teenagers are innocent, naive, and many other things, but this is a stupid attitude and shows a lack of trust in the person they love.
Yes, but you need to remember you're thinking of this from an outside perspective, as a rational adult(?), rather than actually being in such a bizarre situation, and consider that everyone experiences life and social situations differently.

You consider this toxic lying. If I was like Daiki and afraid of girls, and had a friend come to me and tell me she was acting more tomboyish around me and not wearing makeup or jewelry like she does to school, I'd just ask "Why?" because it, to me, would not be a big deal. I know what she's like, after all.

I can say this easily because this friend doesn't exist and this situation exists only in my head and on the page here. I didn't actually have a friend come tell me this. I don't actually have a crippling fear of women. I know how I'd react (in a vacuum). But the theoretical friend here wouldn't. She has factors to consider; a phobia of women, having spent 10+ years together and fear that trying to be romantic with him will scare him off, etc. Hell, Wakaba said herself she was happy just being a tomboy friend of Daiki's, and only started being more feminine when he expressed interest in having a girlfriend once.

Can you really say you've never been afraid of losing a friend? Back in early childhood, that was always a concern, irl and in media. Yeah, dumb little kids just say shit like "i'm not your friend anymore", but that can really be internalized and just fuck a person up if they don't handle it right. We don't know any prior experiences with these two, so we can't say whether she's had a traumatic experience like that, but even without having experienced it, just knowing about it from reading books/manga, watching tv, playing games etc. could worm its way into someone's head. Hell, it's common. There's myriad other romcoms where one of the many excuses to keep the plot going is one being "afraid to confess because if they reject me we might not be friends anymore" with the person imagining said friend telling them off and calling them gross. Could you really say with your chest that if you had a friend terrified of the opposite sex that you'd spent your life and acted like their sex just to make it comfortable for them, that you'd just suddenly switch up on them like nothing? You wouldn't once concern yourself how they might feel or react? If so, that's just another thing that makes people different. I don't think I could just shock someone's core like that, personally. And... I've had plenty of experiences with surprises that are incredibly unpleasant with respect to another person, so that's another angle I totally understand...

And yeah, adolescence begins at 12, but everyone has a different experience with that, too. Some people have a sexual awakening early. Some, it doesn't kick in until they're like 16.
 
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Yes, but you need to remember you're thinking of this from an outside perspective, as a rational adult(?), rather than actually being in such a bizarre situation, and consider that everyone experiences life and social situations differently.

You consider this toxic lying. If I was like Daiki and afraid of girls, and had a friend come to me and tell me she was acting more tomboyish around me and not wearing makeup or jewelry like she does to school, I'd just ask "Why?" because it, to me, would not be a big deal. I know what she's like, after all.

I can say this easily because this friend doesn't exist and this situation exists only in my head and on the page here. I didn't actually have a friend come tell me this. I don't actually have a crippling fear of women. I know how I'd react (in a vacuum). But the theoretical friend here wouldn't. She has factors to consider; a phobia of women, having spent 10+ years together and fear that trying to be romantic with him will scare him off, etc. Hell, Wakaba said herself she was happy just being a tomboy friend of Daiki's, and only started being more feminine when he expressed interest in having a girlfriend once.

Can you really say you've never been afraid of losing a friend? Back in early childhood, that was always a concern, irl and in media. Yeah, dumb little kids just say shit like "i'm not your friend anymore", but that can really be internalized and just fuck a person up if they don't handle it right. We don't know any prior experiences with these two, so we can't say whether she's had a traumatic experience like that, but even without having experienced it, just knowing about it from reading books/manga, watching tv, playing games etc. could worm its way into someone's head. Hell, it's common. There's myriad other romcoms where one of the many excuses to keep the plot going is one being "afraid to confess because if they reject me we might not be friends anymore" with the person imagining said friend telling them off and calling them gross. Could you really say with your chest that if you had a friend terrified of the opposite sex that you'd spent your life and acted like their sex just to make it comfortable for them, that you'd just suddenly switch up on them like nothing? You wouldn't once concern yourself how they might feel or react? If so, that's just another thing that makes people different. I don't think I could just shock someone's core like that, personally. And... I've had plenty of experiences with surprises that are incredibly unpleasant with respect to another person, so that's another angle I totally understand...

And yeah, adolescence begins at 12, but everyone has a different experience with that, too. Some people have a sexual awakening early. Some, it doesn't kick in until they're like 16.
Everyone is afraid of losing a friendship, that's normal. But lying to maintain that friendship means you don't trust that person 100%, and there's no other explanation. Wanting to keep someone close because you like them doesn't mean you'll trust them, because you're not close enough. But they are different, they grew up together, doing everything together and evolving together. Taking that attitude is literally the biggest poison in a relationship.

If someone I know came to tell me that my childhood friend, whom I've always trusted, supported, and gone through all kinds of experiences with, lied to me all this time for just a silly reason, it would completely destroy me. Trust isn't restored in the same way after it's been broken.

If you know the person has a phobia, you help, you support them. They've had YEARS to show their feminine side, which is their true side, for a long time now. They haven't been a tomboy for years. They could very well be true to themselves and he wouldn't freak out, you can be sure of that. How would they be interacting in these last chapters if his phobia is so extreme that she needs to lie for so long? That's the flaw in this story.
 
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Everyone is afraid of losing a friendship, that's normal. But lying to maintain that friendship means you don't trust that person 100%, and there's no other explanation. Wanting to keep someone close because you like them doesn't mean you'll trust them, because you're not close enough. But they are different, they grew up together, doing everything together and evolving together. Taking that attitude is literally the biggest poison in a relationship.

If someone I know came to tell me that my childhood friend, whom I've always trusted, supported, and gone through all kinds of experiences with, lied to me all this time for just a silly reason, it would completely destroy me. Trust isn't restored in the same way after it's been broken.

If you know the person has a phobia, you help, you support them. They've had YEARS to show their feminine side, which is their true side, for a long time now. They haven't been a tomboy for years. They could very well be true to themselves and he wouldn't freak out, you can be sure of that. How would they be interacting in these last chapters if his phobia is so extreme that she needs to lie for so long? That's the flaw in this story.
This is one of those things where one's life experiences can result in a completely different reaction someone else would have.

I would not give the smallest shit if my best friend of ten years admitted they lied about something inconsequential, like for example, hiding femininity. I would be like "Why bother going home to change?" I mean, it's about how they choose to outwardly present. If they feel like I would be upset if they showed up one way and choose to not to, that's their prerogative, y'know? I might be miffed they'd think I'd act like that but I'd just set them straight.

But to you, it sounds like that'd be a massive breach of trust and friendship, which, well, that's your life experiences coloring that. But me? Eh, whatever. Not like they were lying about liking me as a person or were just using me to get at something. That's what'd send me over the edge. But lying about something that literally does not matter in the end? Honestly, it's kind of flattering that they were thinking that much about me and my feelings.

Also, I don't agree with Wakaba being feminine being her "true self." That's how she dresses for school now, but in the one flashback chapter where Daiki admitted he wanted a girlfriend, she didn't even start dressing or doing her hair like that until then. Then as soon as he says it the next like 3 panels are montage panels of her going to the salon and shit. She still mocks bad movies (though not in front of her friends that liked it), she still likes to play soccer, she alters her speech patterns when with her HS friends....

I think the end goal of the author here is to have Wakaba find out she can be herself, whatever that means, be it tomboyish but fashionable or girly but with a foul mouth, and Daiki/her friends coming to accept that.

Ah man, this is fun. Maybe I should have gone to school to be a lit teacher... bleh, but I bet all the stupid textbook cabals would make me make the kids read the same overanalyzed shit everyone else does like 1984 and Great Expectations...
 

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