Watakushi no Koto ga Daikirai na Gitei ga Goei Kishi ni Narimashita - Vol. 1 Ch. 2

[MangaDex]

 

[PenjilatDonat]

I see.. So, you into dilf huh
Good taste

 

[Darkshade13]

This is much better as a full chapter instead of the split portions, thanks for that.

And your translation is pretty good overall, especially for MTL.


on the topic of the story itself: She's quite stupid. Especially for someone who's supposed to be 'smart' and trained in navigating high society (and thus being able to read people effectively)

 

[WhimsiCat]

Fiance = male
Fiancee = female

Just sayin.

 

[Izuna]

This is much better as a full chapter instead of the split portions, thanks for that.

And your translation is pretty good overall, especially for MTL.


on the topic of the story itself: She's quite stupid. Especially for someone who's supposed to be 'smart' and trained in navigating high society (and thus being able to read people effectively)

usually someone with good iq is lacking in eq, so not strange

 

[Darkshade13]

usually someone with good iq is lacking in eq, so not strange

But she should be emotionally intelligent. That's part of her being a high society lady. She would be trained and practiced in navigating interactions with people where they disguise and obfuscate their true thoughts, feelings, and intentions using indirect language, feigned politeness, and manipulative/maneuvering conversation. And she would have to be sharp enough to recognize her own flaws too in order to defend against them. But here she's completely cliche-typical-romcom-MC-oblivious to her (not-) brother's affection and very straightforward behavior.

It's just kind of silly. Having her recognize that he likes her but trying to push him away in that regard because she knows it would be improper and she doesn't immediately see him that way, while also noting over time that she is beginning to be attracted to him as he reveals himself to be exactly the type of man that she seeks would've been fun. Instead it's just the same cliche as always.

 

[Izuna]

But she should be emotionally intelligent. That's part of her being a high society lady. She would be trained and practiced in navigating interactions with people where they disguise and obfuscate their true thoughts, feelings, and intentions using indirect language, feigned politeness, and manipulative/maneuvering conversation. And she would have to be sharp enough to recognize her own flaws too in order to defend against them. But here she's completely cliche-typical-romcom-MC-oblivious to her (not-) brother's affection and very straightforward behavior.

It's just kind of silly. Having her recognize that he likes her but trying to push him away in that regard because she knows it would be improper and she doesn't immediately see him that way, while also noting over time that she is beginning to be attracted to him as he reveals himself to be exactly the type of man that she seeks would've been fun. Instead it's just the same cliche as always.

For a shoujo manga, u think of the story too deep, maybe try to read historical webtoon for story that more suitable with ur thinking? Bc i think this story is fine (shoujo manga standard) and btw even if they really teach to do all of that, they are basically just a middle school kid, how come u expect them to act like a veteran😅

 

[Darkshade13]

For a shoujo manga, u think of the story too deep, maybe try to read historical webtoon for story that more suitable with ur thinking? Bc i think this story is fine (shoujo manga standard) and btw even if they really teach to do all of that, they are basically just a middle school kid, how come u expect them to act like a veteran😅

With all due respect, but that's a lazy excuse. This story itself sets her up as being drilled in society manners and proper etiquette since she was little It's part of the reason that her brother was supposed to study with her, because she was smart enough and advanced enough to catch him up on what he hadn't learned before. It's not just me assuming that it should be that way, it's what the story itself creates in its expectations. She's the daughter of a prestigious family. Equating her to a modern middle school kid is faulty because she wouldn't be raised like a normal kid.

It's also lazy to suggest that one shouldn't expect too much out of a story. If this was for little kids and written more simply, sure. But shoujo manga is meant for teenagers, an audience old enough to handle complex stories. Any author worth their salt should want to do as good of a job as they can in any story they craft.

 

[CrimsonNanashi]

With all due respect, but that's a lazy excuse. This story itself sets her up as being drilled in society manners and proper etiquette since she was little It's part of the reason that her brother was supposed to study with her, because she was smart enough and advanced enough to catch him up on what he hadn't learned before. It's not just me assuming that it should be that way, it's what the story itself creates in its expectations. She's the daughter of a prestigious family. Equating her to a modern middle school kid is faulty because she wouldn't be raised like a normal kid.

It's also lazy to suggest that one shouldn't expect too much out of a story. If this was for little kids and written more simply, sure. But shoujo manga is meant for teenagers, an audience old enough to handle complex stories. Any author worth their salt should want to do as good of a job as they can in any story they craft.

I mean TBF to her she thinks she’s her half brother so wouldn’t expect him to love her romantically. plus she also thinks she’s bullying him (she’s very much of the Bertia sense of bullying) so that’s another reason why she wouldn’t want suspect him of liking her that way as bullied people typically don’t like their bully. Those are two reasons why she wouldn’t expect her brother to like her romantically.

Fact is we have the benefit of being the viewer so we can gleam things that a character might not notice. Take for instance the bit about her saying what type of person she likes and then him asking for a sword instructor. It was two pages so we could easily connect the two events but we have no idea how long there was between the two pages. For all we know he didn’t ask the dad for one till a week after her telling him that. Could you remember a random tidbit of a conversation a week after the fact? How about a month? This is why you have to give a bit of a leeway on these things.

Lastly even if she was asked to teach him that was less to do with her being very smart and more that he had very little info so anyway she knew could be taught to him. She already made it clear to us that he already caught up to her and has passed her in the area of education she’s in and showed that she was studying to try to now keep up with him.

Youre reading into stuff that’s not really there and in turn making problems that don’t actually exist in the story. You also seem to be ignoring the fact she’s like 11-12. Expecting a 12 year old to notice her brother’s feelings is a bit of a stretch mate

 

[Izuna]

With all due respect, but that's a lazy excuse. This story itself sets her up as being drilled in society manners and proper etiquette since she was little It's part of the reason that her brother was supposed to study with her, because she was smart enough and advanced enough to catch him up on what he hadn't learned before. It's not just me assuming that it should be that way, it's what the story itself creates in its expectations. She's the daughter of a prestigious family. Equating her to a modern middle school kid is faulty because she wouldn't be raised like a normal kid.

It's also lazy to suggest that one shouldn't expect too much out of a story. If this was for little kids and written more simply, sure. But shoujo manga is meant for teenagers, an audience old enough to handle complex stories. Any author worth their salt should want to do as good of a job as they can in any story they craft.

U not even pay to read this story here, why so angry? Its up to author to make story more favorable with ur taste or not, if u feel this story not good for u there is still a lot of more complex and suitable story for u josei tagged story is more complex if u want it) on this website, why angry here when u cant even angry to the author?

 

[Darkshade13]

U not even pay to read this story here, why so angry? Its up to author to make story more favorable with ur taste or not, if u feel this story not good for u there is still a lot of more complex and suitable story for u josei tagged story is more complex if u want it) on this website, why angry here when u cant even angry to the author?

The fact that I didn't pay for the story is irrelevant. I'm still allowed to be critical of it. The idea that "free" (legitimately or piracy-based freedom) content is immune from criticism is nonsense. Because I'm not judging it against the value of my time. I'm judging it against my appraisal of the quality of its craftsmanship.

And this weird general idea of "if you don't like the story just leave and find something else and don't say anything bad or mean about it" is dumb. If I didn't like this genre? Sure, that makes sense then. Because what am I doing reading something I would be predisposed to disliking for broad and significant reasons. But I've read dozens of these sorts of stories and while all of them have something about them that doesn't sit right with me (to be expected, the "perfect" story is vanishingly rare), rarely do they have something in particular that really gets my goat. Maybe it was just the mood I was in that day. Maybe it's the culmination of reading a bunch of stories with similar flaws and this was the last straw. Maybe there was just something in the structure of this one that set off the alarm bells in my head. Who knows. But something about it didn't click for me and this being a message board/discussion forum means I'm exercising my right to share my opinion on it.

People need to stop being so goddamn sensitive about the idea that others dislike something they like. The existence of contrary or negative opinions does not invalidate your own thoughts. You can love this story and no take issue with any of it and that's fine. With very few exceptions I would not consider that to be a problem, it's just how people work. And a negative opinion about one aspect of a story is not a broad and total condemnation of it as a whole. We're only 2 chapters in and that's far too early for me to make a final judgement on anything other than the most broken and poorly crafted works.

Also at no point was I "angry." Trust me, you'd know if I was angry about something. Though I feel like this is possibly something to be chalked up to a language barrier? Because, and I mean this with all the respect I can couch the assumption in, the structure of your post suggests that you are not a native English speaker and that you are perhaps not 100% comfortable conversing in English. If that's the case I apologize for not being clearer about my intent, but with that in mind my intent was never actual, legitimate anger. I don't think I could muster the energy to be angry about a manga unless it really deserved it.

 

[viddie]

I see she's a fellow enjoyer of older men

 

[tondave12345]

Should I be concerned?😓😓😓