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this is dogshit lmao
If you're gonna drop that kinda info.. can you shoot a DM or post up a spoiler message giving a bit of a rundown?
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Nah, the dumpster fire smells worse in this one.
Scum's Wish they probably trying to find the right way even while making the wrong turn.
Kirishima totally know what he is causing and yet stuff his head in the sand and telling himself things will fix itself, and if worse became worst he wants to still be able to say his hand is clean.
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I know that it probably won't go there but I really wish for a proper poliamory ending. Not a harem but proper representation of poliamorous relationship. At least it would be something original.
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It would be more likely for us to discover aliens than to get this
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Mind spoilering me if it's alright with you?
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So as I recall I wrote my original comment in something of a fugue state after spending what should have been my sleeping hours marathoning smutty light novels instead, because I always make the best decisions. So with the caveat of my own fallibility out of the way, my recollection is that
none of the relationships being teased at work out and pretty much everyone (including the hapless male friend who's just kinda there) ends up at each others' throats. Also I think at least one of the heroines dies and the protagonist fucks off to college to continue the story with an otherwise new cast where he no doubt continues to destroy every life he touches
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What is the world was that?! I know that fiction is based on reality, and reality itself is so random, but THAT?! That event is more stranger than reality!
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Alright, I get your warning. Thank you for your sacrifice in reading the Novel...
This story has some NTR elements but is somewhat limited in scope.
This series does a good job exploring relationships, as twisted as they may be. It showcase reasonable character growth (even if the growth goes in the wrong direction). There is a fair mix of lewdness (romance notebook is in 7 of the 8 volumes), heavy drama, awesome moments, and sweetness. Think about it as a better version of domestic girlfriend.
Yanagi gets to date Tachibana for a while, and is the only other man capable of touching her (including teaching her how to swim at the pool). She develops some feelings for Yanagi but still feels extremely strongly for Kirishima. They never kissed/got intimate.
Yanagi got a good feel of Hayasaka's boobs.
Yagani also watched Kirishima finger Tachibana, and caught them doing it in school towards the end of the arc 1.
Yanagi got a good feel of Hayasaka's boobs.
Yagani also watched Kirishima finger Tachibana, and caught them doing it in school towards the end of the arc 1.
There is none. There are moments where one of the girls go out on dates with another man, but they were never allowed to lay their hands on her (since she only dated the man to keep the relationship between Kirishima and her best friend healthy - she was getting a bit too attached).
Interestingly enough, the girl who cared about going all the way the most is still a virgin at the end of vol 8. Though that is likely going to change at the end if she wins since she is the only girl who has not done it. (I hope Tachibana wins but she feels like a side character in act 2 while Haysaka gets a lot better)
Act 1 can be painful to read due to Yanagi. Act 2 is painful to read because of the the heroines being rejected.
Interestingly enough, the girl who cared about going all the way the most is still a virgin at the end of vol 8. Though that is likely going to change at the end if she wins since she is the only girl who has not done it. (I hope Tachibana wins but she feels like a side character in act 2 while Haysaka gets a lot better)
Act 1 can be painful to read due to Yanagi. Act 2 is painful to read because of the the heroines being rejected.
This series does a good job exploring relationships, as twisted as they may be. It showcase reasonable character growth (even if the growth goes in the wrong direction). There is a fair mix of lewdness (romance notebook is in 7 of the 8 volumes), heavy drama, awesome moments, and sweetness. Think about it as a better version of domestic girlfriend.
Kirishima would have a relationship with 4 girls (plus Miyuki - Tachibana Hikari's sister). The high school pair leaves the story between act 1 and act 2. He dates Tono for the majority of act 2 but breaks up when he realize Hayasaka and Tachibana are special for him and Tono will never be able to replace them even though she has been the perfect girl (in fact he got ED at the end of Act1 and could not get it up until Hayasaka gave him a handjob - this is something that haunted Tono for a while).
End of v8 have him essentially reject the new girls while still being their friend, and decided to finally settle for either Hayasaka or Tachibana.
End of v8 have him essentially reject the new girls while still being their friend, and decided to finally settle for either Hayasaka or Tachibana.
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I hope Hayasaka wins.
It really became the red alert signal for me in the forbidden relationship genre, if the story starts having long arcs of dangerous plays.
Hayasaka’s words that break Tachibana at the end of arc 1 still stand strong with me. “He doesn’t choose you because he loves you, he chose you because you’re more pitiful”, which I think is a common pattern in love triangle stories.
Losing heroine tend to be the stronger one, because author made the winning girl too dependent, if the MC reject her, he (and self-inserting readers) would have to live with the guilt of ruining a girl’s life. While the losing heroine is pictured as she can take the punch and stand up again, so you don’t need to feel guilty.
Losing heroine tend to be the stronger one, because author made the winning girl too dependent, if the MC reject her, he (and self-inserting readers) would have to live with the guilt of ruining a girl’s life. While the losing heroine is pictured as she can take the punch and stand up again, so you don’t need to feel guilty.
I just can’t stand it because the series can feel like it’s purpose is to present those “playing with fire” experience, such as the (barely) sex, keeping “secret between just us” behind everyone’s back, and Kirishima’s generally annoying attitude of sticking his head in the sand hoping everything will fix itself and think he’s so genius for coming up with that amazing idea.
It really became the red alert signal for me in the forbidden relationship genre, if the story starts having long arcs of dangerous plays.
I hope Tachibana wins.
The more pitiful thing is one of Kirishima's traits: he "picked" Hayasaka during the 2v2 contest because he couldn't stand seeing Hayasaka getting kissed and fingered, he "picked" Tachibana because she was going to disappear.
Had there not been a marriage arrangement, Tachibana would have won early on. Act 1 Hayasaka is not very likeable since she was the one who essentially caused everyone to go insane. Her lie when Kirishima fainted the end essentially broke everyone. Tachibana was the original #1 pick, and Hayasaka ruined everything.
Act 2 Hayasaka is a lot mature and has the main heroine vibe: she was there to fix Kirishima's ED problem, and acted as Tono's main rival (miyamae never fought back). Meanwhile, Tachibana essentially was AFK outside of her little arc. She felt like a side character when the gang played baseball or went on the hike. Tachibana is at her best when she takes action to get what she wants (the kiss, the school fes date, the hotspring trip), and spent the whole arc waiting for Kirishima.
Still, Tachibana is the perfect match: they are each others's childhood love, they read each other like books and is his preferred type (he likes to be depended on and she is not good at taking caring of herself). In fact, I am not sure if Tachibana can truly move on since she rejects the idea of even giving anyone else a chance and has waited for him for 10+ years.
Given the events in Act 2, it does feel like Hayasaka may win simply due to how it feels like the spotlight is often on her.
Had there not been a marriage arrangement, Tachibana would have won early on. Act 1 Hayasaka is not very likeable since she was the one who essentially caused everyone to go insane. Her lie when Kirishima fainted the end essentially broke everyone. Tachibana was the original #1 pick, and Hayasaka ruined everything.
Act 2 Hayasaka is a lot mature and has the main heroine vibe: she was there to fix Kirishima's ED problem, and acted as Tono's main rival (miyamae never fought back). Meanwhile, Tachibana essentially was AFK outside of her little arc. She felt like a side character when the gang played baseball or went on the hike. Tachibana is at her best when she takes action to get what she wants (the kiss, the school fes date, the hotspring trip), and spent the whole arc waiting for Kirishima.
Still, Tachibana is the perfect match: they are each others's childhood love, they read each other like books and is his preferred type (he likes to be depended on and she is not good at taking caring of herself). In fact, I am not sure if Tachibana can truly move on since she rejects the idea of even giving anyone else a chance and has waited for him for 10+ years.
Given the events in Act 2, it does feel like Hayasaka may win simply due to how it feels like the spotlight is often on her.
I think that is fair, but at the same time it is the messed up relationships in arc 1 that actually makes arc 2 great imo. when you are young, you are naive and does stupid things, and often end up easily being driven by desire.
Because of what happened in Act 1, it is understandable why Kirishima just wanted to avoid relationships (and ended up hurting Tono and his friend), his twisted ideology to make everyone happy at the expense of his own happiness (which ended up making everyone unhappy). It is through all the bad experiences that he is able to grow and overcome various emotional hurdles. Thankfully his Kyoto friends are amazing so they are able to properly reconciliate in v8.
I feel really bad for both Tono and Miyamae though. Tono essentially was the perfect girl who had to lose because of Hayasaka+Tachibana. The series could have ended towards the end of v5 when Kirishima started dating her and they could theoretically have lived happily ever after (minus the ED part). Miyamae, as little scenes as she did get, had a very touching breakup scene as we go through all the couple items with happy memories and toss them out one by one.
No clue why Miyuki was added in v8. It was clear she has zero chance to begin with, I suppose the author wanted to wrap up her little crush.
I feel really bad for both Tono and Miyamae though. Tono essentially was the perfect girl who had to lose because of Hayasaka+Tachibana. The series could have ended towards the end of v5 when Kirishima started dating her and they could theoretically have lived happily ever after (minus the ED part). Miyamae, as little scenes as she did get, had a very touching breakup scene as we go through all the couple items with happy memories and toss them out one by one.
No clue why Miyuki was added in v8. It was clear she has zero chance to begin with, I suppose the author wanted to wrap up her little crush.
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The childhood love part is what I hate of arc 1 from their relationship.
What I felt is, Kirishima and Hikari’s relationship hangs on obsession, and rather than “now”, Kirishima’s feeling to her is obsessing over her being his first love, and the guilt of making her mentally dependent on him. There’s not as much “now” as in his relationship with Akane. While Hikari is still stuck at her first love too and unable to see around her.
Even if we add Yanagi into the equation, Kirishima's possessiveness is simply not wanting other man to lay their hand on his girls. But once he got the girls in his hand, he had no idea what he wants to do.
Even if we add Yanagi into the equation, Kirishima's possessiveness is simply not wanting other man to lay their hand on his girls. But once he got the girls in his hand, he had no idea what he wants to do.
And rather than being naive, Kirishima is just a selfish bastard.
Although, I quit after first volume of the university arc because it’s back to that tedious 掛け引き and 火遊び.
Arc 1, got through that. But arc 2, seeing how he doesn’t get any improvement even after officially dating Tono is the breaking point.
The choice is always in his hands as the centre of that love triangle.
The girls have their choice clear, they want him, and they’re waiting for him to cast his choice.
The way I see it is, he just wants to avoid responsibility. That’s why I really love it when Sakai tells that right to his face and he finally had his mental breakdown.
It’s not about “not hurting anyone”, just him not wanting to be the “bad guy” who hurts them with his choice. So he keep trying to make the girls make the choice: give up on him on their own, that way the choice is theirs, they can’t blame him.
Thus unlike the girls, he always try to find situational excuse to emphasise he had “no choice” (such as finding way to justify it’s the best logical answer, objective profit-loss comparison). Anything as long as it avoids him admitting he chose it from his own desire, thus putting him responsible of his own choice.
The girls have their choice clear, they want him, and they’re waiting for him to cast his choice.
The way I see it is, he just wants to avoid responsibility. That’s why I really love it when Sakai tells that right to his face and he finally had his mental breakdown.
It’s not about “not hurting anyone”, just him not wanting to be the “bad guy” who hurts them with his choice. So he keep trying to make the girls make the choice: give up on him on their own, that way the choice is theirs, they can’t blame him.
Thus unlike the girls, he always try to find situational excuse to emphasise he had “no choice” (such as finding way to justify it’s the best logical answer, objective profit-loss comparison). Anything as long as it avoids him admitting he chose it from his own desire, thus putting him responsible of his own choice.
I really wish romcom authors could just make harem protagonist lose some of the girls as they move on to another man after growing tired with chasing an indecisive guy at the middle of the story. It would also add a sense of urgency to the protagonist if it’s made clear the girls are not going to wait forever for them.
alas, they’d be too afraid of the backlash from people screaming ntr.
"is it wrong to obsessed with a person you love"?
While Tachibana's obsession is obvious, Kirishima has been looking at pics her "boyfriend" posted on social media in the early volumes - and that is a sign of his own obsession. Act 1 Kirishima is essential Makoto from School Days - and they even have similar beginnings.
Hayasaka may feel like a "now" thing due to recency bias, but that is because the other relationship started years ago and is still an ongoing thing. Her own obsession of Kirishima is far more intense - and essentially turned her into a yandere pretty early on. So we ended up are different flavors of possessiveness.
You are right on not knowing what he wants to do: the girls never really gave him a chance and have always decided among themselves. The sharing agreements the girls had essentially forced an unhealthy balance to be maintained.
In Act 1, Kirishima+Tachibana would likely have been a certainty if any of the following happened:
a) Tachibana did not have a marriage arrangement,
b) Hayasaka did not exist/withdrew in accordance to the 2nd gf agreement,
c) Hayasaka actually liked Yanagi/is as passionate about him as she was with Kirishima.
There is also the fact that Kirishima went all the way with Tachibana (he intended to do so and was not seduced into it), while he has always hesitated to cross the final mile with Hayasaka.
Thus i think the relationship between Kirishima and Tachibana has more beyond just possessiveness.
While Tachibana's obsession is obvious, Kirishima has been looking at pics her "boyfriend" posted on social media in the early volumes - and that is a sign of his own obsession. Act 1 Kirishima is essential Makoto from School Days - and they even have similar beginnings.
Hayasaka may feel like a "now" thing due to recency bias, but that is because the other relationship started years ago and is still an ongoing thing. Her own obsession of Kirishima is far more intense - and essentially turned her into a yandere pretty early on. So we ended up are different flavors of possessiveness.
You are right on not knowing what he wants to do: the girls never really gave him a chance and have always decided among themselves. The sharing agreements the girls had essentially forced an unhealthy balance to be maintained.
In Act 1, Kirishima+Tachibana would likely have been a certainty if any of the following happened:
a) Tachibana did not have a marriage arrangement,
b) Hayasaka did not exist/withdrew in accordance to the 2nd gf agreement,
c) Hayasaka actually liked Yanagi/is as passionate about him as she was with Kirishima.
There is also the fact that Kirishima went all the way with Tachibana (he intended to do so and was not seduced into it), while he has always hesitated to cross the final mile with Hayasaka.
Thus i think the relationship between Kirishima and Tachibana has more beyond just possessiveness.
I would honestly recommend finishing act 2 (maybe after vol 9 gets released so you don't have to sit on a 1 year cliffhanger).
Act 2 is Kirishima 2.0: unlike in act 1, he is willing to accept Tono as his first real relationship instead of being ambigious/having the couple tag assigned to him. Sure, he still has unfinished business with the original two, but after having been in depression for a year, he is finally moving on to a more normal lifestyle.
He is not perfect, but he is trying.
Thus, I don't exactly see him as just trying to avoid responsibility. Sure, that is part of it, but after the FUBAR in highschool, it is only natural for him to have zero confidence in those matters. After he started dating Tono, he tried to follow the social norm and be the best friend he could be with everyone while protecting the relationships. The HS girls also knew what he wanted and TRIED to support him/keep distances.
Towards the end of Act 2, Kirishima 3.0 has choices and is not afraid to make them. He knows he is selfish for wanting to remain friends with the Kyoto group, but this time he is able to reach out and solve problems properly without allowing his desires taking over. In fact, I am pretty sure the "break up" with Miyamae hurt him as much as it did to her - but both of them were able to talk it out before hand, stuck to the agreement, and maintained their friendship.
And now we are back to the original Hayasaka or Tachibana choice. Though as mentioned before, while I like Tachibana more, I feel Hayasaka would win this one due to her being the one in the spotlight the most in Act 2 (and is arguably the title character). Even though the end of v8 have them forcing him to pick one or the other exclusively, they have all matured. H+T are friends, and Kirishima now has a lot more friends of his own and also the experience and courage to walk his ideal, yet somewhat selfish, path. It would uncharacteristic if Kirishima picks one and allows the other to vanish and suffer. (Also, please don't have some weird domenstic girlfriend ending)
Kirishima may not be the most likable character, but the growth over the volume is still something I personally liked quite a bit. We all make mistakes in our high school days, and it is through those mistakes and acceptance of himself does a character actually display growth.
Seeing girls move on would be realistic, but yeah, that's not happening in any LNs (though there are a number that may a girl move onto another guy after the protagonist rejects them). This series is imo already one of the best ones out there that skirt the line of NTR territory (that is not "NTR for the sake of NTR", also Tachibana did develop SOME feelings for Yanagi - to a point where she cried at a dinner because she is not as faithful as she wanted herself to be). In fact, the concept of breaking up with someone is already not all too common to begin with.
I do think we may end up seeing some developed relationships in the Tanegashima meeting in 10 years where the various girls show up with their partners as a sign of them moving on.
Act 2 is Kirishima 2.0: unlike in act 1, he is willing to accept Tono as his first real relationship instead of being ambigious/having the couple tag assigned to him. Sure, he still has unfinished business with the original two, but after having been in depression for a year, he is finally moving on to a more normal lifestyle.
He is not perfect, but he is trying.
Thus, I don't exactly see him as just trying to avoid responsibility. Sure, that is part of it, but after the FUBAR in highschool, it is only natural for him to have zero confidence in those matters. After he started dating Tono, he tried to follow the social norm and be the best friend he could be with everyone while protecting the relationships. The HS girls also knew what he wanted and TRIED to support him/keep distances.
Towards the end of Act 2, Kirishima 3.0 has choices and is not afraid to make them. He knows he is selfish for wanting to remain friends with the Kyoto group, but this time he is able to reach out and solve problems properly without allowing his desires taking over. In fact, I am pretty sure the "break up" with Miyamae hurt him as much as it did to her - but both of them were able to talk it out before hand, stuck to the agreement, and maintained their friendship.
And now we are back to the original Hayasaka or Tachibana choice. Though as mentioned before, while I like Tachibana more, I feel Hayasaka would win this one due to her being the one in the spotlight the most in Act 2 (and is arguably the title character). Even though the end of v8 have them forcing him to pick one or the other exclusively, they have all matured. H+T are friends, and Kirishima now has a lot more friends of his own and also the experience and courage to walk his ideal, yet somewhat selfish, path. It would uncharacteristic if Kirishima picks one and allows the other to vanish and suffer. (Also, please don't have some weird domenstic girlfriend ending)
Kirishima may not be the most likable character, but the growth over the volume is still something I personally liked quite a bit. We all make mistakes in our high school days, and it is through those mistakes and acceptance of himself does a character actually display growth.
Seeing girls move on would be realistic, but yeah, that's not happening in any LNs (though there are a number that may a girl move onto another guy after the protagonist rejects them). This series is imo already one of the best ones out there that skirt the line of NTR territory (that is not "NTR for the sake of NTR", also Tachibana did develop SOME feelings for Yanagi - to a point where she cried at a dinner because she is not as faithful as she wanted herself to be). In fact, the concept of breaking up with someone is already not all too common to begin with.
I do think we may end up seeing some developed relationships in the Tanegashima meeting in 10 years where the various girls show up with their partners as a sign of them moving on.
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