Watashi no Kanojo wa Otokonoko

[crazybars]

It seems you're ignoring the multiple facts and evidences I posted and just keep posting the same thing. As in you didn't even read anything I wrote.


Have fun not getting tagged so you can't find out when I re-posting the exact same links refuting yours.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNSNews.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Research_Center#CNSNews.com

CNSnews.com is owned by Media Research Center
Their mission statement says "To expose and neutralize the propaganda arm of the Left: the national news media"

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_College_of_Pediatricians

Anti LGBT group. . . . . . not a credible source on the issue

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation

It's a conservative think tank . . . . . right wing bias is expected. It's like how I don't trust CNN's because it leans super left?

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You can use this website to double check my work by taking the name and putting it in here to check it.
It works, I used CNN as an example.

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[DesertStorm]

It seems that you're just listening to propaganda without hearing from people on the other side of the fence. If you don't listen to the opposing side, then what's the point of a dialogue with you?

It seems that you're ignoring the way the multiple facts and evidences of the studies are presented because of perceived bias from an organization telling you how to think. If that's the case, then read their methodologies, and if you can't accept it, then you should re-test them again, so that you can be certain that their study is valid.

As always, here are the articles with proven scientific facts and evidences from experts:

https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/the-sex-change-revolution-based-ideology-not-science

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

 

[DANDAN_THE_DANDAN]

Before anyone gets triggered, take note that I am neutral in this argument.

@DesertStorm I was curious so I skimmed through your links.

1 and 3 are blogspots. I am currently studying in college and they have taught me to never use blogs for my references since they are not reliable, instead look for their sources. 2, however, is fairly interesting. From aesthetics alone, it looks like it can be reliable.

But I read through their bullet points and found multiple issues. No way am I spending an entire day to prove/disprove their credibilty so I'm just gonna express my opinion of, arguably the only valid source that you link, on each of the bullet points they represent. I don't have time for that so Imma make a very brief analysis.

[ol]Points 1-3 are arguments that they are trying to defend, not facts.

Points 4 and 6 are hypothesis with sufficient evidence.

Points 5 and 7 are statistics. I'm not gonna check their references. So take it with a grain of salt, otherwise take these statistics as corelational facts and not objective. Corelational because there could be hidden variables that contributes to the result. Not objective because these are corelational. Duh.

Point 8 is an opinion, not a fact.[/ol]

Also, be ready to defend yourself. https://mangadex.org/thread/53010


@crazybars You're linking Wikipedia... Wow.

In my college, using Wikipedia as a resource for your paper is the same as begging to look like a fool in public.

1. Wikipedia is not as "credible" as you claim for them to be and thus cannot be used in to argue against DesertStorm because anyone can change them at any time. I can go to the moon wiki and put in "during an eclipse, a rain of cows will fall and destroy all buildings" and for a solid five minutes, it will be there on wiki.
2. You are supposed to use wiki as a general understanding and nothing more. If you want to use their information, go to the resources of each page and use those instead.

 

[DesertStorm]

These are not just blogs. They're all properly vetted in Wikipedia thank you very much!

Let's not misconstrue the facts, so it fits your propaganda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_College_of_Pediatricians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNSNews.com

If you want to see literal fake news, see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fake_news_websites

It takes a certain eye to know determine fake news, and I know I have it because I have the skills to back it up.

As always, here are the articles with proven scientific facts and evidences from experts:

https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/the-sex-change-revolution-based-ideology-not-science

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

 

[DANDAN_THE_DANDAN]

@DesertStorm Wikipedia is not credible

 

[DesertStorm]

Your references are not credible as well.

As always, here are the articles with proven scientific facts and evidences from experts:

https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/the-sex-change-revolution-based-ideology-not-science

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

Please try to do research yourself. I have already proven the validity of my sources. You sound like a troll now.

 

[DANDAN_THE_DANDAN]

@DesertStorm

1. I said that I was neutral in this argument. This is actually pretty entertaining.
2. References? I never gave out any references. That one MD thread that I linked is @crazybars putting you on the spot in a support thread because he's triggered by your spamming.
3. Research and opinions don't go hand in hand despite how interchangeable they come by, in a negative sense of course.
4. If you think that I'm a troll go ahead and block me. Do you think I care?

At this point, replying to me won't do you any good since I was never opposing you in the first place. If I were you, I would provide more than three references. Overwhelm them with information (credible ones of course) instead of repeating yourself. If they debunk you, debunk their debunking.

Have fun, I'll observe and drop tips from time to time.

 

[DesertStorm]

I'm not going to entertain bullshit.

As always, here are the articles with proven scientific facts and evidences from experts:

https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/the-sex-change-revolution-based-ideology-not-science

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

 

[firelight]

"Just let us have this one"
Anyone who has dealt with you parasites more than once knows that it's never just one.

Equal rights? We need diversity quotas. Rape is bad? We support islam and refugees! Calling a woman a slut? NOT OKAY! Calling a man an incel / virgin? YOU GO GIRL!
Is it still not obvious?

 

[DANDAN_THE_DANDAN]

I just read this out of curiosity.

1. Characters are one-dimensional and boring. The only way that they're interesting is that there's a minority who relates to them.
2. The cast is easily hateable in my opinion. I can't see how people like some triggered teenager who complains about which gender identity to be called to the point that they lash out in public.
3. The romance is also short-lived in a story-telling perspective. The mangaka has to rework almost everything if they want to serialize this.

4/10, could've been worst.

 

[DarkDjango]

This was really sweet, glad I read this.

 

[DesertStorm]

This is propaganda meant to destroy the possible future of your child. Don't let them feed into this disgusting degenerate ideology!

As always, here are the articles with proven scientific facts and evidences from experts:

https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/the-sex-change-revolution-based-ideology-not-science

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

 

[crazybars]

I'm not going to entertain your bullshit DesertStorm.

I'm gonna use your own organizations words against themselves and show how you're just ignoring evidence showing your sources are not credible.

You can't say THEY'RE NOT credible after spamming advertisements for them right?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNSNews.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Research_Center#CNSNews.com

CNSnews.com is owned by Media Research Center
Their mission statement says "To expose and neutralize the propaganda arm of the Left: the national news media"

==> Source, their own website: https://www.mrc.org/about

mrc.org quote: "Prominent conservatives depend on MRC’s publications and analysis to showcase left-wing bias in the media."

"CNSNews.com is an indispensable online resource for conservatives in the media, public policy and at the grassroots level. A central problem of left-wing media bias is the media’s sin of omission or outright censorship—that is, their failure to report the news that hurts the left-wing agenda. To address this problem, MRC launched CNSNews.com with the mission to report the news the liberal media refuse to cover. "
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_College_of_Pediatricians

Anti LGBT group. . . . . . not a credible source on the issue

==> Source, again their own words: https://www.acpeds.org/...college.../gender-ideology-harms-children

ACP quote : A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking. When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind not the body, and it should be treated as such.

(Aka, they on record for saying being gay is a mental disorder and you should be hospitalized. AHAHAHA! These guys are trying to thought police gay people into not being gay. Wow right? Not a credible source on LGBT subject.)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation

It's a conservative think tank. They also REALLY love traditional man and women marriages, so it's not a credible source on the subject. AT ALL.

==> Source: Their own words: https://www.heritage.org/marriage.../marriage-matters-consequences-redefining-marriage

Heritage.org quote: All Americans have the freedom to live as they choose. No one, though, has the right to redefine marriage for all of us.

Heritage.org quote a few sentences earlier: Appeals to “marriage equality” make for good sloganeering, but sloppy reasoning. Every law makes distinctions; equality before the law protects citizens from arbitrary ones. Marriage equality demands knowing what marriage is.

Marriage exists to bring a man and a woman together as husband and wife to be father and mother to any children their union produces. Marriage is based on the biological fact that reproduction depends on a man and a woman, and on the social reality that children need a mother and a father.

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You can use this website to double check my work by taking the name and putting it in here to check it.
It works, I used CNN as an example.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/

 

[totallynotmike]

But no, seriously, how does widely accepted "gender theory" differ from, for example, widely frowned upon Freud and Jung writings?

Latter are considered hogwash and the former "science", while being roughly the same in terms of how provable they are. So what makes those feminist musings more credible in the eyes of academia?

 

[crazybars]

@milkegnesium

They're not better. If anything, modern gender theory is awful, turning it from being a person's choice into forcing it or using it for agenda pushing.

I won't fight you there, I'm more against DesertStorm explicitly advertising LGBT opponents in a manga about LGBT material. Like really?
Free speech and all, but he's intentionally trying to make other people feel bad for their own chosen identity.

That's a dick move.

 

[DesertStorm]

This is propaganda meant to destroy the possible future of your child. Don't let them feed into this disgusting degenerate ideology!

Please try to read them because they actually put forth the effort to understand this!

As always, here are the articles with proven scientific facts and evidences from experts:

https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/the-sex-change-revolution-based-ideology-not-science

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

 

[crazybars]

I'm not going to entertain your bullshit DesertStorm.

I'm gonna use your own organizations words against themselves and show how you're just ignoring evidence showing your sources are not credible.

You can't say THEY'RE NOT credible after spamming advertisements for them right?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNSNews.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Research_Center#CNSNews.com

CNSnews.com is owned by Media Research Center
Their mission statement says "To expose and neutralize the propaganda arm of the Left: the national news media"

==> Source, their own website: https://www.mrc.org/about

mrc.org quote: "Prominent conservatives depend on MRC’s publications and analysis to showcase left-wing bias in the media."

"CNSNews.com is an indispensable online resource for conservatives in the media, public policy and at the grassroots level. A central problem of left-wing media bias is the media’s sin of omission or outright censorship—that is, their failure to report the news that hurts the left-wing agenda. To address this problem, MRC launched CNSNews.com with the mission to report the news the liberal media refuse to cover. "
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_College_of_Pediatricians

Anti LGBT group. . . . . . not a credible source on the issue

==> Source, again their own words: https://www.acpeds.org/...college.../gender-ideology-harms-children

ACP quote : A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking. When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind not the body, and it should be treated as such.

(Aka, they on record for saying being gay is a mental disorder and you should be hospitalized. AHAHAHA! These guys are trying to thought police gay people into not being gay. Wow right? Not a credible source on LGBT subject.)

----------------------------------------
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation

It's a conservative think tank. They also REALLY love traditional man and women marriages, so it's not a credible source on the subject. AT ALL.

==> Source: Their own words: https://www.heritage.org/marriage.../marriage-matters-consequences-redefining-marriage

Heritage.org quote: All Americans have the freedom to live as they choose. No one, though, has the right to redefine marriage for all of us.

Heritage.org quote a few sentences earlier: Appeals to “marriage equality” make for good sloganeering, but sloppy reasoning. Every law makes distinctions; equality before the law protects citizens from arbitrary ones. Marriage equality demands knowing what marriage is.

Marriage exists to bring a man and a woman together as husband and wife to be father and mother to any children their union produces. Marriage is based on the biological fact that reproduction depends on a man and a woman, and on the social reality that children need a mother and a father.

-------------------------------------
You can use this website to double check my work by taking the name and putting it in here to check it.
It works, I used CNN as an example.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/

 

[reeeelmao]

There are a lot of butthurt homos here.

 

[crazybars]

?

Who are you? Should I care?

 

[Pokari]

Lol, those opening lines. "It doesn't matter if you're straight or gay, the first thing you care about is gender!"

I know it's meant to be provocative, but... As someone bi (or something else in modern LGBTQAlphabetsoup kids use these days) it just comes off as so ham-handed XD. I'm like... "Er, no, I really don't care" and somehow I can't stop laughing (probably because the description framed this as an LGBTQetc.etc. comic, which certainly seems to be true, and yet...!)

In general, I think the main thing this lacks is any sort of subtlety—possibly via the author's over-affection for high-impact moments without really having... quite mastered them. For instance that psycho friend of theirs starts to feel like a cardboard-cutout-villain with no reality; it seems that it's probably intended for greater impact for the twist (if you can call it that when it's obvious from a mile away), but... I'm used to Japanese manga being especially good at grasping the subtler side of bullying and misunderstandings so it's painful to see the sledgehammer treatment here.

...

In other news, what the hell even happened in this comments thread XD

I admit, there is a cynic in me that is amused that there's a troll posting enthusiastically about "degenerate ideology" on any manga, period. I mean, incestuous pedophilia is stock-standard in ecchi shounen tropes. But... a gender-identity treatsie is what you're worried about...?