We Shall Now Begin Ethics.

[Lluis]

@Agni If you mean the one that got raped even if you call the police there are no proof's that she got raped, no evidences that can be usefull, there is nothing that can be done, that's why they do nothing

 

[Yourself]

Here’s the epilogue of how this manga came about after the mangaka’s beloved aunt committed suicide and left behind several books on philosophy: https://imgur.com/a/T4cybDm

 

[solchimes]

Amase-sensei has an oekaki board if you know where to look

 

[petra]

man this guy is such a weirdo. hey you guys banging in the classroom? are you in love? because if not i might take issue with this.

@Lluis
it never says that there's no evidence. the author didn't bother writing any more about it.
@Agni
because the teacher already made everything better by assuring the student that she's dateable. problem fuckin solved.

 

[Wilburd]

@Lluis There are several forms of evidence that can be used to prove a rape. Haven't you ever heard of rapists getting convicted before?

 

[KiTA]

Man, it's like that Monster in Class 1-A manga, only instead of a maybe serial killer, you have ... I donno what.

 

[Letheliah]

This manga has really inspired me the more I read, so here's some more of my thoughts for reader's unsure about whether to pick it up (you totally should btw lol):

I wrote in one of the chapter threads once that it felt like the mangaka hated women; I quickly changed my mind after reading the next chapter, but thinking more and more on premise of each chapter, I've come to the conclusion that the mangaka is portraying how society sees these characters (children, women, delinquents, etc.) in the Japanese society they are accustomed to. Which isn't kind to women or outcasts that reject acceptable Japanese gender/class roles, and the mangaka is representing that with the antagonist of each story, be they other characters, the protagonists themselves, or an abstract limitation/idea. That is to say, the mangaka is choosing to depict society's hatred in these instances.

Spoiler

Each chapter ends in the mangaka's/protagonists' attempt to assist—if not entirely correct—the systemic and personal troubles these characters' face,

and I think they may be finding some catharsis in this act through Takayanagi and his students defying society's hatred with their own radical empathy.
It's certainly not perfect solutions to the problems the story presents, but the mangaka does bring these scenarios into light and make us uncomfortable in questioning the ethics and our responses to these scenarios. And I think that's important work if our purpose as humans is to better ourselves and the communities we live in (which I believe to be one of the several underlying morals that Takayanagi/mangaka wishes to tell with these stories).

I don't think you need to be incredibly versed in Ethics/Philosophy to understand or enjoy this manga (though having a basic understanding, or at least a framework of critical thinking/questions to ask as you read, certainly helps), as the mangaka themselves was learning as they wrote this, but it still is quite complex. I'm curious: for other readers, what thoughts come to mind when reading this?

 

[Yourself]

@letheliah The volume 1 epilogue mangaka notes answer your questions:

Spoiler

 

[Lluis]

@petra .-. im talking the one that got raped, i dont remember the name but it was persuaded to not suicide, the one that do you refer is the one that got saved by the teacher. @Wilburd same to you

 

[petra]

@Lluis
?? We're both talking about the girl that was about to jump off the roof. You said:

If you mean the one that got raped even if you call the police there are no proof's that she got raped

You have no way of knowing that there's no proof.

 

[abvvcx]

Ayy, another good read, i hope the series is not too short. But if it is short then i hope the conclusion is satisfactory. 10/10 for me.

 

[EaterOfBooks]

@petra

It wouldn't even be lying to say she attended the party of her own free will, and she had boasted about having a college boyfriend beforehand to several people. Although she didn't understand what she was getting into, and definitely wasn't consenting when they did rape her, any court case about the matter wouldn't just be "he said, she said" - it would be three to five witnesses against her story, saying that she'd come to the sex party to get her fill of dick, and the rape accusation was merely her feeling ashamed about it afterward. There is no possible evidence other than a full video recording of the incident that would support her story.

Imagine how humiliating or traumatic a trial like that would be for her. Particularly because her family would be involved, and hear everything she'd done and that had been done to her. And if the verdict was that there wasn't a rape (based on the majority of witnesses at the scene - quite a likely verdict, honestly), then the legal system has basically declared that she voluntarily went to that apartment to get as many hot pork injections as she could. Then she regretted it and made a scene about it. That would destroy both her family life and social life. Is that the ethical option?

I feel like that's actually a big theme in this manga - situations that 'slip through the cracks' of the various social and authoritative systems that should be protecting the victims, but either can't or aren't.

 

[breasts]

Feels like Great Teacher Onizuka but darker and with a better MC. Good read.

 

[Lazlo]

Really enjoying this manga. Thanks for the uploads.

 

[Mck26]

Deep!!!

 

[sarialhrbi]

i liked the philosophy concepts and the quotations that the author choosed it

 

[Yourself]

Help I'm having withdrawl symptoms from a lack of ethics

 

[KAFi]

Guys any idea what happened to the translation?

 

[newniez]

@KAFi chapter 10, page 37 (credits page)
The current scanlator is taking a break, we dont know how long but we can only hope and wish the best for them

 

[Wind1]

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