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I don't recommend it. From the middle to the end, the plot goes downhill and it becomes a psychedelic melodrama with some psychological stuff, but only one sub-story is interesting.
The story basically boils down to an internal discussion by the author about society's impositions on "men" and "women" and how this affects these individuals' perception of themselves and their sexuality (but it's pretty boring).
i think it depends on whether you find the content relatable or not

something tells me you are not the target audience
 
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Okay... I was simply curious about what this is all about because all comments was about "trans representation" and i don't remember Japanese being into this stuff with gender war, they on their own spectrum. Don't think it's about trans or what ever, it's more about people in their own feelings and unique circumstances.

I didn't expected much but from what I've seen it's just bunch of teenagers under influence of puberty(or simply mental issues, idk) gathering traumas like achievements. If to waterdown it completely then "it's about guys being gay with extra steps". Honestly nothing impressive about story and thats just how i imagine folks struggling with what ever they struggle with.

Imho. Read it if you interested in how people struggle with basic rules of nature to get with people they cherish and care for. Meh, for me personally.

P.s i didn't read afterwords of author. I just wanted to know how this mess ends.
 
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Well... I must admit that I wasn't expecting anything from all that plot and themes that it touches on, I'm new to Oshimi Shuzo's works, but even so I felt so identified within the story and characters and I'm happy to spend an autumn afternoon in my life reading this. If anyone could give me some recommendations along the same lines I'd be grateful, thanks in advance! :3
 
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No matter how much people like or dislike Okaeri Alice, it would still remain his one of the best and the closest work to him, Shuzo made this work out of his personality experience and the idea of getting out of the bounds of "man" and "woman", I don't know why the ratings falls so much, back when it was being published it had a rating of 8.6, maybe people were left dissatisfied with how sudden the ending was. It comes off really unexpected for sure but still it really managed to convey what it wanted and that's what really great about it. While it does not have the finesse of Aku no Hana or Mari no Naka, it involves raw emotions much more than both of them. Easily a 10/10 for me.
 
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Ngl this took me into a roller coaster of emotions. Was I happy with the ending? Yeah its alright but there’s something that makes me stare at the ceiling, that extra 1% that can let me rest in peace. Don't get me wrong Im positive with how it all ended but it left a hole in my heart to for me to pickup the pieces again.

am I buggin or does anyone feel the same??
 
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Hello to anyone who sees this, no will probably care but, I weirdly relate to some parts on this and it kinda changed my perspective of things, I would like to share that I done inappropriate stuff to my self, for a long long way to long time, its really embarrassing and genuinely disgusting to hear but I’m 16 and that just makes this worse, but ever since one of the chapters I related to the part where the author said he did it day in and day out practically all the time, I’m like that but he also said he felt sticky, never clean and disgusting… I relate to that sometimes at night or in the shower I wonder “Why am I so disgusting” I bet even if I told my family this they’d resent me, whenever I was nervous, mad or even sad I’d touch “it” over and over it started to feel normal like an everyday thing… I’m scared, I really am it’s horrible to cause I’m crying and struggling to type this cause I’m so scared of myself, what my family would think, what my friends, strangers, priest, or anyone would think. They’d probably rebuke me and think I’m trash, well I don’t wanna be trash, please.. I wanna be normal, I hate lust, it’s completely taken over my body. I go to church and later that day I’ll “do it” my family real big on religion but I’m to scared to say I’m not, I really am not. I just wanna get rid of this feeling that overcomes my mind and makes think it’s “normal”… I hate hate hate hate hate HATE IT, it’s worse because I’ve done it to myself for 8 years and I just can’t stop I even try to force my self to not and I fail, I remember I used to go home when I was 12 and tie my hands with duck tape to stop, and failed I need help, from anyone I just wanna stop but I can’t it hurts so unbelievable much. On the characters “Ren” I relate to her even more, I’m not an attractive guy (yes Ik seen is a girl) and my friends would rate me 6/10, I’m short, and weak, skinny to make it worse. When I reached highschool I started my first actual sport, wrestling, I thought to myself this will help me “man” up and work on myself and stop doing these sick things… all it left me with was realizing the skill gap there is between the weak and frail, so I quit, but before this in middle school I did art either tho I was not in art class, I’d practice at home/school/or out of town, I’m decent at it but just like “Ren” said I relate to her cause it’s the only thing I CAN do, I’m not booksmart/streetsmart, I’m not athletic, I’m not strong, and all I am is just a boy who found his interest in first Anime then to manga then to manwha… anyway I’m scared of myself, music and art are the main things that delay my broken hands controlled by lust, I wanna be myself, I wanna find someone I see with love and not lust, I’m just so confused on what to do tho, I have no idea how to stop…please if u have any idea or advice I would love to hear
 
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Hello to anyone who sees this, no will probably care but, I weirdly relate to some parts on this and it kinda changed my perspective of things, I would like to share that I done inappropriate stuff to my self, for a long long way to long time, its really embarrassing and genuinely disgusting to hear but I’m 16 and that just makes this worse, but ever since one of the chapters I related to the part where the author said he did it day in and day out practically all the time, I’m like that but he also said he felt sticky, never clean and disgusting… I relate to that sometimes at night or in the shower I wonder “Why am I so disgusting” I bet even if I told my family this they’d resent me, whenever I was nervous, mad or even sad I’d touch “it” over and over it started to feel normal like an everyday thing… I’m scared, I really am it’s horrible to cause I’m crying and struggling to type this cause I’m so scared of myself, what my family would think, what my friends, strangers, priest, or anyone would think. They’d probably rebuke me and think I’m trash, well I don’t wanna be trash, please.. I wanna be normal, I hate lust, it’s completely taken over my body. I go to church and later that day I’ll “do it” my family real big on religion but I’m to scared to say I’m not, I really am not. I just wanna get rid of this feeling that overcomes my mind and makes think it’s “normal”… I hate hate hate hate hate HATE IT, it’s worse because I’ve done it to myself for 8 years and I just can’t stop I even try to force my self to not and I fail, I remember I used to go home when I was 12 and tie my hands with duck tape to stop, and failed I need help, from anyone I just wanna stop but I can’t it hurts so unbelievable much. On the characters “Ren” I relate to her even more, I’m not an attractive guy (yes Ik seen is a girl) and my friends would rate me 6/10, I’m short, and weak, skinny to make it worse. When I reached highschool I started my first actual sport, wrestling, I thought to myself this will help me “man” up and work on myself and stop doing these sick things… all it left me with was realizing the skill gap there is between the weak and frail, so I quit, but before this in middle school I did art either tho I was not in art class, I’d practice at home/school/or out of town, I’m decent at it but just like “Ren” said I relate to her cause it’s the only thing I CAN do, I’m not booksmart/streetsmart, I’m not athletic, I’m not strong, and all I am is just a boy who found his interest in first Anime then to manga then to manwha… anyway I’m scared of myself, music and art are the main things that delay my broken hands controlled by lust, I wanna be myself, I wanna find someone I see with love and not lust, I’m just so confused on what to do tho, I have no idea how to stop…please if u have any idea or advice I would love to hear
I have read your comment several times and I can tell you that I feel totally identified with you, I am 17 and I also suffer from that problem of feeling disgusting, even horrifying perhaps for having such impulses to do that kind of things with me. Without going into more details, not only did I "touch" that but I got to the point of self-flagellation until a few years ago, although at some point when I hit rock bottom with a lot of shame at first I asked for help, in this short time of "healing" I found this manga through a video that treated it as a total bizarreness but I have to say that just like you I feel unmanly. maybe it is not of much help but sooner or later, from my point of view, you come to understand that all this is something that you cannot escape and it is not bad, once you understand that it is part of your being whether negative or positive is what makes you who you are and that makes you very valuable for living, I hope to be able to help you even a little with this and I strongly recommend that you seek professional help however you can, in the same way I want to tell you that if you need comfort or simply someone to listen to you I offer myself, I would love to help if you wish, I hope you are well and continue to be well and better, best regards <3
 

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