Witch Sanctuary
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A chapter was uploaded and then deleted. Anyone know whats going on?
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Has no pages it says
Now the page are readable but it's bad, very bad. Just the drawings. I can read stories badly drawn if the author knows he is bad at drawing. Example: One-punch-man (original): bad drawings, but he knows it so he doesn't try to make something to difficult to draw for him, hence the minimalist style. But here, the author tried to do a lot of details while not being capable of doing it, making a lot worse than it should. Story extremely basic and seen and reseen.
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Art was fine to me. Some parts were a little difficult to make-out, but with a simple-enough story, I don't really scrutinize.
A lot of the exposition in the first chap didn't seem quite necessary, kinda felt like useless reading. It didn't help that I wasn't quite interested in the lore to the point that I wanted it explained to me, and I think the art carried the background enough anyway.
I'd say it's pretty effective, especially going by user created standards.
A lot of the exposition in the first chap didn't seem quite necessary, kinda felt like useless reading. It didn't help that I wasn't quite interested in the lore to the point that I wanted it explained to me, and I think the art carried the background enough anyway.
I'd say it's pretty effective, especially going by user created standards.
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I'm intrigued, do upload more Zodiac!
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Isn't fanfiction pretty specifically referring to things written by fans of an existing setting using that setting and more often than not the characters from it (might include original characters too, suppose it could be all original characters in the same setting too)? I'm not sure this is based on something else just from looking at the title and description. But if it was fanfiction, then yeah, probably? Pretty much a doujinshi at that point, isn't it? We also have a user created tag for format for a more general reason, I'd assume. As in more or less implicitly allowing users to create content and upload it here. Webcomic tag might be applicable here too, since even if this was the only place it ever got uploaded we are on the web and it is a comic.
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Just to clarify it.
This is not a fanfiction. It's a story of my own.
Well, it's just my hobby to draw manga...
so please don't expect too much from me 😅
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Just read the first chapter, I think its pretty nice! Sure the art is pretty rough still, but has a lot of potential. Fantastic scenery and world-building. IMO the #1 thing that would improve this comic so far would be if you improved your understanding of comics as a medium. The paneling can be very confusing to read, as well as which moments you choose to capture into panels. I would suuuper recommend reading 'understanding comics' by scott mccloud, its like the bible of comic-making. Other than that, this suffers a bit from the writing and little details like editing (the words/font/bubbles), but really I'm loving your vision so far and hope you keep it up!
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Thanks a lot for your advice Oria! I'll do my best to make it better.
This week I'll upload the 7th chapter stay excited if you're still reading it.
This week I'll upload the 7th chapter stay excited if you're still reading it.
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hahahaa Rhino 36.
You made me smirk on that one : D
Tho you're not the first one who made that pun.
believe me or not but my editors already said it long long ago.
You made me smirk on that one : D
Tho you're not the first one who made that pun.
believe me or not but my editors already said it long long ago.
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Aoatique thanks for your comment I appreciate it.
well, this story will take a good decade I think.
there is a lot of content like world-building and character development that still hasn't shown up yet.
well, this story will take a good decade I think.
there is a lot of content like world-building and character development that still hasn't shown up yet.
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First of all, good job on making this! Keep it up, it takes a lot of effort and hard work to keep going and I applaud you for that!
Regarding what other people are saying about the art and it being hard to read... I think the issue with it is not how you draw the characters, but rather, the thickness of your strokes and how you do you crosshatching.
Compared to what you had in your first chapter, I can see you already improved a bit by giving your characters a thick outline. I think that's a good decision, it makes the characters stand out. However, even in your recent chapters, your hatching still has the issue of taking the thunder away from your actual important lines. What I mean is, your hatching often feels random half of the time, and are there just to "fill space". They are also as thick as some important lines, which means that often, I can't tell them apart.
Take this panel for example:
the people on the right initially just looked like a bunch of vertical lines to me. This is because the lines all look almost equally thick, and you use the same thickness on other important parts as well (MC on the left). It ends up being random lines that makes a picture hard to read. For other series, I can tell with a single glance on a panel what's going on, because I can see which lines are supposed to be important and which ones not. But for yours, I have to stop for 2, 3 seconds just to figure out which lines are important and which ones are just random hatching, just so I can figure out what the heck is going on in the drawing.
If you wish to go for a style as complex as Berserk, you'll notice the hatching isn't random, but rather, they often carefully placed in a way that enhances composition/movement. The hatching of each section is also often done differently so the eyes can tell they're two distinct object. Yours often don't have that distinction, which ends up making it hard to read:
If you want to go for a more simple style, I really recommend to reduce the amount of hatching you have and consider using much thinner lines. More isn't always better; it's preferable to just prioritize important details. Composition is very important even in comic, when you over detail part of the piece that's not important, it actually steals away the viewer's attention away from the things they actually want to care about. If you're going with a style like One piece, you'll notice the author uses things like an "white border" around the main subject of the panel to distinguish the important stuff from the background. It also has pure black panels, which makes it visually more easier to read than if it was just extremely roughly hatched.
Overall, I just recommend more visibility and distinction between the important elements of the panels and those that are not. There's many different ways to do this so it's worth doing your own research in it.
Anyway, I still want to say, kudos to you for the comic! Apart from the overall messy lines, I think your artstyle itself is quite nice. Keep it up and good luck!
Regarding what other people are saying about the art and it being hard to read... I think the issue with it is not how you draw the characters, but rather, the thickness of your strokes and how you do you crosshatching.
Compared to what you had in your first chapter, I can see you already improved a bit by giving your characters a thick outline. I think that's a good decision, it makes the characters stand out. However, even in your recent chapters, your hatching still has the issue of taking the thunder away from your actual important lines. What I mean is, your hatching often feels random half of the time, and are there just to "fill space". They are also as thick as some important lines, which means that often, I can't tell them apart.
Take this panel for example:
the people on the right initially just looked like a bunch of vertical lines to me. This is because the lines all look almost equally thick, and you use the same thickness on other important parts as well (MC on the left). It ends up being random lines that makes a picture hard to read. For other series, I can tell with a single glance on a panel what's going on, because I can see which lines are supposed to be important and which ones not. But for yours, I have to stop for 2, 3 seconds just to figure out which lines are important and which ones are just random hatching, just so I can figure out what the heck is going on in the drawing.
If you wish to go for a style as complex as Berserk, you'll notice the hatching isn't random, but rather, they often carefully placed in a way that enhances composition/movement. The hatching of each section is also often done differently so the eyes can tell they're two distinct object. Yours often don't have that distinction, which ends up making it hard to read:
If you want to go for a more simple style, I really recommend to reduce the amount of hatching you have and consider using much thinner lines. More isn't always better; it's preferable to just prioritize important details. Composition is very important even in comic, when you over detail part of the piece that's not important, it actually steals away the viewer's attention away from the things they actually want to care about. If you're going with a style like One piece, you'll notice the author uses things like an "white border" around the main subject of the panel to distinguish the important stuff from the background. It also has pure black panels, which makes it visually more easier to read than if it was just extremely roughly hatched.
Overall, I just recommend more visibility and distinction between the important elements of the panels and those that are not. There's many different ways to do this so it's worth doing your own research in it.
Anyway, I still want to say, kudos to you for the comic! Apart from the overall messy lines, I think your artstyle itself is quite nice. Keep it up and good luck!
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Keimichi
Thank you for your kind and well-explained criticism. I appreciate all your time and effort that you've spent.
Yes, I can only agree with you on every aspect you mentioned. I will try to do better on my one-shot manga.
wish you still enjoyed reading the work of an amateur like me ^^'
Thank you for your kind and well-explained criticism. I appreciate all your time and effort that you've spent.
Yes, I can only agree with you on every aspect you mentioned. I will try to do better on my one-shot manga.
wish you still enjoyed reading the work of an amateur like me ^^'
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Chapter 1 has some out-of-order pages I think
As for readability, I think using more colors (like black, white and 2 shades of gray) would help a lot. Even keeping monochrome but using some halftones could be worth a try. High contrast stuff is hard on the eyes on backlit screens. (That said I don't know shit about drawing)
Thanks for your work, keep it up!
As for readability, I think using more colors (like black, white and 2 shades of gray) would help a lot. Even keeping monochrome but using some halftones could be worth a try. High contrast stuff is hard on the eyes on backlit screens. (That said I don't know shit about drawing)
Thanks for your work, keep it up!
