Yondome wa Iya na Shizokusei Majutsushi - Vol. 11 Ch. 49 - The First Reincarnated

[reu]

So mc is actually the reincarnation previous hero? Didn’t the giants predict this way back when he first settled in their capital?

also, loving this goddess f’ing with the reincarnation gods plans.

They didn't predict it, they're followers of vida, so it was a prophecy she left them

 

[Sads07]

Ok, so, wait...
Let me try to understand this.
Zakkurat (or whatever it was) gets taken from Earth, along with several others, to Lambda to defeat the demon lord.
He, along with the other three Creation Heroes, are killed and have their souls shattered.
Rodecort creates a single soul out of the shattered remnants of the four souls of the four Creation Heroes.
This soul is then reincarnated on Earth where they all came from originally?
That soul then got summoned to another world once, but died after he was abused severely.
The soul was then sent to Lambda again, and that's Vandeliu.
So, our MC isn't one person, but an amalgamation of four people's souls made one and sent back to Earth only to ultimately be sent back to Lambda again?

No, not the same Earth! The Earth the Heroes were recruited from the the Earth where MC first died are two different worlds with similar aspects, and world history it seems.
But yes, their amalgamated soul did end up back in Lambda again despite the whole point being to keep it away from Vida so she had no chance of fully reviving Zakkart. Because Zodcorte is so sure of himself and his power he actually forgot about it. If he had actually taken a moment to examine the soul, this story wouldn't have happened. He just threw it to Origin without a second look, threw it to Lambda after chugging curses at it from a distance, and now he doesn't know how to fix his own mess.

 

[quaicai12]

this is one hell of a lore dump

 

[Iskarioth]

...and she made a psycho demon king 2.0 Good job, Goddess

 

[popmol]

Gufadgarn was not mentioned in the manga before. All the people who are gushing about Gufadgarn are novel readers, because Gufadgarn gets a bigger role later in the novel.

I'm not sure how the math is supposed to work, but I am under the impression that Van's soul is bigger than that of ordinary people, because it's made of 4 souls, which weren't so damaged only 1/4 of each remained.

well if thats true and each soul had 3/4ths or 2/3ths than he has 3 times soul size or like 2 and a half

 

[Justking14]

They didn't predict it, they're followers of vida, so it was a prophecy she left them

I thought the prophecy just said he’d come to save them, not that he was the reincarnated hero

 

[NiceGhost]

So mc is actually the reincarnation previous hero? Didn’t the giants predict this way back when he first settled in their capital?

also, loving this goddess f’ing with the reincarnation gods plans.

Vida sent a message to the giants (Vida church priest), she used the last bit of her power to clear the way for our MC.
The MC is a squashed together soul made with the fragments of all the creation heros.
and Rodcort is just a moron that normally is the cause of his own problems.
Actually he's always the cause of his own problems.

 

[Justking14]

The way I interpretted it was.

The four creation heroes had their souls shattered.
Rodcorte put them together to make 1 complete soul.
That soul is MC's.
Rodcorte is an asshole and a fate of endless suffering ended up befalling that soul.
Vida barely created a hope for that soul so that it could reincarnate into Lambda and gain the strength to resist fate.

That all sounds about right though I’d add that rodcorte is also an idiot since he failed to notice that his soul was the one that he made by merging the 4 heroes

 

[Kampfarsch]

Aw come on this is getting absolutely fucking ridiculous
Whats next is he also in a star wars dyad with jesus? Is he also the demon lord from a parallel universe?

 

[reu]

I thought the prophecy just said he’d come to save them, not that he was the reincarnated hero

um... Also not too sure about that, those chapters in the LN were translated all the way back in 2018.

 

[Astra_Starwalker]

Spoiler: Vida

[/No, the reason why Van is so obsessed to bring his mother back to life is because he had 2 shitty lives with no parents so he never knew the feeling of being loved. That's basically the reason why he's obsessed to bring her back. But you are right with Vida being reincarnated to Van's mother, Darcia does end up getting reviveed back waaaayyyyyy further into the story and she will be the reincarnation of Vida]

Hold up, wait a moment, if this is true,

Spoiler: Darcia and Vida?

then wouldn't that mean Darcia's soul gets cast aside, or will Darcia's soul and Vida's share Darcia's reincarnated body?

 

[ssj4maiko]

Hold up, wait a moment, if this is true,

Spoiler: Darcia and Vida?

then wouldn't that mean Darcia's soul gets cast aside, or will Darcia's soul and Vida's share Darcia's reincarnated body?

Spoiler

No. The explanation is like this: To be able to receive blessings from a God, and call for their Familiar Spirits, you must have good compatibility with them.

For example, Heinz gains access to the Heroic Spirit Joshua after training in the Trials, so instead of calling an anonymous ego-less spirit, he is able to properly call for a real spirit with its own strengths, strategies and abilities.

Before reincarnation, Darcia trained with many gods and demi-gods, and specially with Vida to improve their tune themselves with each other, this means that Darcia was influenced by Vida, but at the same time, Vida was influenced by Darcia. Thanks to this training, post reincarnation Darcia, with the body Van create, can hold Vida's power for a long amount of time if necessary, and to the end of the story, she remains the one who can hold a God for the most time in her body by a large distance from 2nd place.

um... Also not too sure about that, those chapters in the LN were translated all the way back in 2018.

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Also, regarding the "prophecy" for Vida, I expect some more explanation by next chapter (I expect Alda, Rekrent/Zurwan, and maybe Schneider to appear).

But to avoid more misunderstandings with the wording it's being given here, here is a spoiler with more details, because a reminder, Vida may be the Goddess of Life, but she is not really ale to make prophecies.

Spoiler

The one who had the prophecy is the Magic God of Time, who is weakened and waiting. This is the God who was able to see a glimpse of the future, and recognize the return of the soul that contains the fragments of the 4 Champions (including his/her own).

So he/she sent a message to other Gods. Vida received the message, and was able to call Nuaza to prepare things. She then tried to stay alert to find the when the soul came to Lambda. She also later would send a message to Schneider, to save the mother.

Zantark did not receive the message because he became too different from the past due to his circumstances of fusion.

Gufadgarn also received the message, and created the Trial of Zakkart in anticipation of the true successor of his legacy, and the dungeon came to start teleporting all around the continent since then.

Another reminder about the prophecy. One prophecy told Nuaza about the White Child. That's Van. The other "prophecy" is about the True Ancestor.

Nuaza mixed both together, but only the first one is a true prophecy, the other is just the cursing of a dying person.

 

[Kurogwane]

Hold up, wait a moment, if this is true,

Spoiler: Darcia and Vida?

then wouldn't that mean Darcia's soul gets cast aside, or will Darcia's soul and Vida's share Darcia's reincarnated body?

Spoiler: Spoiler

They used the wrong term, she becomes the incarnation of Vida, as in she can have the spirit of Vida descend upon her and power her up.

 

[Leonkristoffer]

Soooo I know it sound silly what I’m gonna ask but when does the story talk about the heroes and Gufadgarn again ? I vaguely remember some talks about the heroes but Gufadgarn ? When was he mentionned ?

I am speaking from the perspective as a novel reader, there is currently 324 novel chapters translated if you are interested.

 

[Leonkristoffer]

Spoiler

"But of course…."]He eventually gets the form of a hot elf girl because Japan🙄

Spoiler

I mean, yeah. I am aware that "they" have a more human form atm, but how they looked before that was entirely up to your own imagination.

 

[Astra_Starwalker]

Spoiler: Spoiler

They used the wrong term, she becomes the incarnation of Vida, as in she can have the spirit of Vida descend upon her and power her up.

Ah, that makes much more sense, yeah!

 

[DarkMatter77]

So did the heroes actually let Keisuke die like Vida thinks? Or was it something very unfortunate that just happened?

 

[Regius]

So did the heroes actually let Keisuke die like Vida thinks? Or was it something very unfortunate that just happened?

Spoiler: WN plot far into the future

Yes and no, the combat hero's were in fact tricked by the Demon king so he did sneak up and murk the 4 creation hero's pretty fair and square but at the same time Bellwood was basically leading the other combat hero's and even the major gods and ended up neglecting the production hero's defenses. Bellwood himself has major egocentric problems thinking he's the true hero of the world and he hates the idea of compromise so he felt like it was divine punishment/guidance that he never had to deal with the other hero's and their attempt at building stronger weapons personally and was a bit relieved they died.

 

[Shakur]

Im just wondering how the first couple chapters of this series have any relevance to the rest of the series.

Like the MC got killed with his classmates on a ship out at sea, a god was sending his classmates into a new world but someone took his place, that god "made a mistake" thinking that the other guy was the MC, the MC got isekai'd into a torturous situation, he escapes only go get killed by those same classmates and the guy who took his place.

Then, in the afterlife, that same god isekai'd him again but with a curse to keep him from getting revenge. How does all of that tie into the rest of the series?

Less spoilery answer:

Spoiler

The world before Lambda, the people the MC saved there and the other reincarnated heroes there become more important later on.
ABSOLUTE SPOILER ANSWER:

Spoiler

The MC's death mana is kind of unique in that other world so the kids the MC saved while runing away from that lab get some unique abilities related to the MC's Death Affinity and try to get revenge by attacking the other heroes that murdered their savior. That leads to a war between heroes and death ability kids which leads to lots of deaths and betrayals, the dead heroes end up getting reincarnated in Lambda, some Rodcorte send with bodies he built for them to hunt Vandalieau, others decide to be reborn as babies or to just not go after Vandalieau in fear of having their souls destroied.
EXTRA ABSOLUTE SPOILER:

Spoiler

Vandalieau ends up visiting that world later and leaves a piece of his soul to act as a guardian angel for a kid with death affinity just like him, he also gets the blessing from all the gods from that world due to them being pissed af with Rodcorte sending people to reincarnate there without even warning them.

 

[DarkMatter77]

Spoiler: WN plot far into the future

Yes and no, the combat hero's were in fact tricked by the Demon king so he did sneak up and murk the 4 creation hero's pretty fair and square but at the same time Bellwood was basically leading the other combat hero's and even the major gods and ended up neglecting the production hero's defenses. Bellwood himself has major egocentric problems thinking he's the true hero of the world and he hates the idea of compromise so he felt like it was divine punishment/guidance that he never had to deal with the other hero's and their attempt at building stronger weapons personally and was a bit relieved they died.

Thanks