Yondome wa Iya na Shizokusei Majutsushi - Vol. 17 Ch. 78 - The Evil Dragon's Revival

[X07Zero]

Thank for the chapters ^^

Dang it with how rush the last few chapters become I really fear this will get axed soon =_=;

 

[Justking14]

Peace with Rodcorte. Van never gave a shit about the other classmates as long as they left him well enough alone

Technically he did swear to murder all his classmates in ch2 but I think he was mostly over that by ch3

 

[Joviper]

man, the author really side lined this part eh. maybe author just want to focus on the stupid god as the main villain and ditching the whole revenge plot to his classmates

Spoiler

Yeah, he gave up on revenge quite early since the reincarnators didn't really know about his situation at all, so he decided to be completely apathetic towards them as long as they don't mess with him or his people, most of them only learned about him either when they die or when he starts interfering in Origin through Hiroto's daughter.
Most of his suffering in his current and previous lives is really the fault of both Rodcorte and Alda.

 

[RiceScum1]

what is entity X problem anyway?

 

[jrocker]

and after they were shown how much some of their collective deeds just broke and mistreated him, and then finally killed him?

I'm assuming that he highly manipulated what he showed to show he purposely screwed him for fun and then cursed him otherwise they would understand that the god is trying to hide his mistake before it becomes so big that the revenge will be against him

 

[HayashidaYuki]

I forget, but do we even know that the MC was well acquainted with that girl he tried to save?

You might also be assuming she or the others know he was resurrected. Did they even see him in the resurrection waiting room? If not, maybe they're thinking he didn't die in the ferry accident or, for whatever arbitrary reason, wasn't a candidate for resurrection?

Also, I might be misremembering, but I don't think the MC even had a chance to tell them he was their classmate when they killed him. They pretty much attacked him on sight.

No, Amamiya tried to save her at the end of their life, so she does feels gratitude but she still didn't know him very well; no one does. Since the two Hiroto looks alike, she(and everyone) thought Amemiya is the same person. The number of confirmed reincarnated is exactly 100(excluding Amamiya), nobody really thought "wait, what if there were another person reincarnated and the actual number is 101". Moreover Amamiya never came out to the world(he was inside the lab the whole time), so there is no Amemiya or Amamiya out there, only Hiroto.

She figured out they are different person eventually, but at this point they've been together for years, Amamiya becoming her distant past(they've never been close anyway) while Amemiya is her present.

 

[EldritchNeko]

You know, if he'd just offered MC a job like that instead of trying to get him killed quick so he'd move on to the next world, this whole thing could've been avoided.

 

[KuroeNekumi]

You know, if he'd just offered MC a job like that instead of trying to get him killed quick so he'd move on to the next world, this whole thing could've been avoided.

I mean, Amamiya was furious and frustrated with all the bullshit. I don't think Amamiya would have accepted.

And even if Rodcorte managed to do it...he just gave power to someone with all the intention of eventually screwing him over, and had outwardly told him he was going to get revenge. He was asking for payback to kick his ass sooner rather than later.

"Later" being the option where he tries to get him killed fast in his next reincarnation, and then wiping his soul clean of everything and swiping the entire event under the rug (reminder he essentially didn't care Amamiya was being experimented and tortured simply because it helped develop his own world, as a result of his fuck-up).

 

[Dvv]

Given their reactions, I think it's much more likely that Rodcorte only showed them MC's original life on Earth.

They seem to already have gotten the run down on his life as Van, I don't think it would be a stretch that they know his second life.

 

[Dvv]

Because nobody was aware or give it a thought that there were two people with similar names because it wasn't just one class, there were multiple classes mixed in that ship accident in the beginning. Remember that there were over a hundred students. Also MC didn't stand out at all. And who could have known the idiot god gave AmEmiya more gifts, the gifts from AmAmiya till AmAmiya was left in the end with nothing and everyone already gone?

It wasn't just similar names, the MC himself said the other Hiroto looked exactly like him. There is clearly something off about him.

 

[SageVonManga]

It wasn't just similar names, the MC himself said the other Hiroto looked exactly like him. There is clearly something off about him.

"Identical twins" who are complete strangers happen occasionally.

Everything goes back to Rodcorte being lazy and incompetent. Except for the nutcase who treated life as a video game (even though being on his second reincarnation he should have had a mental age 30+) there has been no clear malice indicated on the reincarnator side of things so far. Even the end of his life on Origin was just a case of them following orders to stop an undead monster which had gone berserk and killed the facility staff. I don't remember if the facility was even a legal one since at that time the reincarnators mentioned the monster hadn't even guarded itself and they assumed it probably wanted to die.

 

[naphack]

what im asking is, how there 2 people with same name but no one noticed? does they even from the same school? MC clearly know some of the people and even the girl originally know him. so how no one even suspecting a damm thing that that was different person?

There never was any mention of them being in the same class, or the same school, for that matter.
It's not like they were abducted from their class room. They were on a boat that sunk. That boat had crew and other passengers who probably find it very troubling that 80% of their fellow reincarnators know each other from their previous lives while they are the - in some cases not even japanese - outsiders.
As for Amamiya, I don't quite remember. He was either a NEET or part of the ship's crew. either way, his background has no significance to the story.

 

[AlvoradaGD]

Becoming attendants may have seemed like a smart choice, but without knowing how much influence the god has, he may be able to just assume direct control and force them to do it anyway.

You say it like there WAS much of a choice. Given how much of a troublesome God this one is, I wouldn't carelessly keep refusing him either.

 

[Dvv]

"Identical twins" who are complete strangers happen occasionally.

Identical twins that are complete strangers and have nearly the same name? There is too much there for it to just be purely coincidence. And if the series never goes back to what's going on there it'll feel like it's just a dropped plot point.

 

[Henryvolt]

Those guys dodged a bullet, that reincarnation God is a Bona fide stubborn idiot. Clearly is "Let's just kill him" plan isn't going to work when he's sending them there ill prepared and when Van knows they're coming.

That one girls right, maybe if he tried to make amends with him from the start for his mistakes instead of trying to stack the odds against him maybe this wouldn't have gotten so out of control.

 

[theblasblas]

Is it just me, or does that new dragon look like a hand with faces on the tips of its fingers?

Yeeep, I was curious how they'd design Fidirg. This is acceptable. I honestly expected him to be more grotesque.

Like the Monstrosity of Sin from Dark Souls.

 

[theblasblas]

is there even any explanation about this 2 Hirotos? i still Can't understand how there 2 of him who just look the same to each other like that back in the reincarnation room in chapter 1

Japanese Kanji bullshit.

It's just two names that have the same pronunciation but different Kanji. Rodcorte didn't know that, so he gave everything to one guy. My guess is that it was auto-translated to whatever his default language is, and that language didn't have kanji.

Edited to remove misinformation

 

[Malachite_Dragon]

It's like one guy's name was Erick, and the other's name was Eric. The pronunciation is the same, even if the name itself is not.

 

[vergotear]

Japanese Kanji bullshit.

It's just two names that have the same pronunciation but different Kanji. Rodcorte didn't know that, so he gave everything to one guy. My guess is that it was auto-translated to whatever his default language is, and that language didn't have kanji.

Also, to clarify, the other people are wrong. They don't have "almost" the same pronunciation, they have the EXACT same pronunciation. The "Amamiya vs Amemiya" thing is just something the translators came up with to help English speakers differentiate between the two.

You should have fact checked the manga or novel raws before making yourself a clown, because you got that completely wrong. On one hand yes, both last name kanji's can be pronounced differently or the same. But the furigana on their names do specifically spell them Amamiya and Amemiya differently. It's not a made up thing by the translators!!!

Here's an image with their names and furigana from the manga's 1st chapter right next to each other and pointed.

Here's a screenshot of the Japanese Wikipedia entry. They do spell them Amamiya vs Amemiya there too, marked and pointed at the Katakana MA and ME. Again not a Translator thing!!!

The LN raws play the confusion on purpose while they put the furigana of Amamiya on page 1 and every student's name called, they did leave out the Furigana of Amemiya when he's called to confuse the reader. It's until Amamiya is left behind and announces himself as "I´m Amamiya Hiroto (kanji)" and Rodcorte realized he was "Amamiya Hiroto (katakana)? Amemiya (kanji), You´re not AMEmiya(katakana)?" Again not a made up thing by the translators, it's a part of the original writing and wordplay! Don't come arguing if you can't differentiate between a hiragana/katakana Ma and Me or just some basic knowledge of japanese.

 

[theblasblas]

You should have fact checked the manga or novel raws before making yourself a clown, because you got that completely wrong. On one hand yes, both last name kanji's can be pronounced differently or the same. But the furigana on their names do specifically spell them Amamiya and Amemiya differently. It's not a made up thing by the translators!!!

Hmm, I see, my bad. I thought I remembered a translator note saying they were making it up. Editing my post to prevent spreading misinformation. Thanks for the clarification.