Youheidan no Ryouriban - Vol. 2 Ch. 4.4

[MangaDex]

 

[Mitsu13]

One trope I really dislike in Isekai is when it’s like they just lost their earth memories

 

[HaikenEdge]

What the fuck was that chapter for? Why was the introduction of Yamagishi necessary? Couldn't this have just been told without introducing a side character that's likely to never come up again?

 

[JaxunHero]

It’s a lost bro

 

[Chizan]

This must be the slowest manga I've read in a long while, timewise...

 

[EchoGirl]

lol it's nice that he had an influential friend (Tho you'd think there'd be advice from his dad/tips/techniques even without being told to consult a cookbook) Hope his friend is doing well

One trope I really dislike in Isekai is when it’s like they just lost their earth memories

I wouldn't consider it 'lost' but considering even without it being in a wartime situation it's not like he could do much about it and just move on versus him leaving behind a wife and kids (some ppl might complain about him whining about his old life or so depending) but other than being considered 'fully dead' i wonder if there are series where they're still able to keep in contact or at least one last goodbye letter versus those series that can go back and forth, but otherwise he was very much cooking obsessed to where that's most of what matters to him, unless he doesn't get a chance to 'settle down' in one place vs moving with the mercenary corp i guess he can open a restaurant and name it after his family name or so

What the fuck was that chapter for? Why was the introduction of Yamagishi necessary? Couldn't this have just been told without introducing a side character that's likely to never come up again?

I guess it's more of an origin story versus all of the classmates being 'mobs' or guinea pigs with like a blackened/shadowy silhouette face with a vague "you should get a cookbook/look up recipes/tutorials on YT" or so tho considering the LN apparently has 17 volumes i imagine it'll be long/slow paced unless the author speed runs like 20 (text) chapters into one manga chapter

 

[lordnequam]

What the fuck was that chapter for? Why was the introduction of Yamagishi necessary? Couldn't this have just been told without introducing a side character that's likely to never come up again?

I'm gathering from the other chapters—which have a tendency to tell the story, then show the same thing again from another character's perspective—that it is just the author's style.

 

[Assaultsquirt]

Show. Don't tell. You could've saved this for a later time in the story with Shuri explaining his backstory and weave it in organically.

This author is vexing. On the one hand, he has some really cool ideas. Joining a mercenary group in a Warring States period? Really cool idea. Having the MC bump up the technological prowess of his new home with knowledge from Earth? TenSura did it but it's still pretty fresh. Magi-crafting? Certified fresh. On the other hand, the way he actually writes the story is entirely amateurish. The story doesn't flow well, the characters are a bit cliched, and the entirety of the first 4 chapters is just exposition dumping. The damn narrator talks more often than all of the other characters combined.

I want this story to be good since the author is clearly not just copy + pasting other Isekai stories and has some fresh ideas. I just wish he'd workshopped his story a little and moved some segments around to better spots in the story than expo dump for an entire volume.

 

[Cz760]

I enjoyed this manga at the start, but I really can't get behind some of these story design choices anymore. It's one thing to switch perspectives to show how different characters react to the same events, but that shouldn't require the same event to be portrayed over and over from start to finish just to show things that could already be interpreted. The backstories are nice, but we don't need to see each and every scene again and again when we already have the dialogue to tell us how the other characters reacted to Shuri in the moment. If they just dropped one chapter with a few extra pages for the other character's POV, they could've done less work and made a less clunky storyline, but instead, the story's gotten stuck in arrested development in the very first section, with every chapter either showing events from the distant future or showing the same events that've already been done into the ground. This one was different, but it was completely unnecessary for where we are in the story right now. This could've been a good chapter to drop after the main story was completed, to show Shuri's roots back home, or maybe as an interstitial bonus chapter between arcs so the author could take a bit of a breather from coming up with ideas, but this arc has barely started so it feels more like the author doesn't know how to progress past their initial idea than anything else.

 

[KinGrove]

Definitely, while I enjoy the exposition, the framework needs some work. Its good to sprinkle in detail as needed to provide more perspective, but for the first couple of chapters it feels like the author wants to address every single facet and detail whenever its brought up rather than mention it and then letting it pad itself out organically later.

We are hardly getting any story about current events as a result. I guess this was to talk about Shuri's life that was left behind as a result of getting Isekai'd, that many Isekai stories tend to never mention at-all, but usually you would save it for when the MC is getting homesick or reminiscing about the past.

Like it feels a bit like Chekov's Gun, where because Shuri mentioned once that his friend recommended for him to use cookbooks to learn, so the author felt the need to write an entire section dedicated to it when it could have been left well alone.

 

[dashen]

Showing a different POV is fine, but its happening for every single thing not matter how minor, usually followed with a lot of exposure about what happens later. Feels like we are just being told the same thing 3 times in a row to make it look more meaningul than it really was, or blowing it out of proportion. Its fine to do it sometimes but unless the friend gets isekaid later then this just felt like stalling. I agree with what someone above said that this could have been worked organically into a chapter instead of pausing the story to go on this tangent umprompted.
Im already dreading thinking of this trying to follow a formula of "protag interacts with a mercenary > they just have a conversation and he makes a meal > whole new chapter doing it again but explaining how his suggestion revolutionized the world and 100 years later he will be renowned or some bullshit" and repeating this with every single mercenary shown at the start.

 

[OldGuyLogan]

It would be nice to get to actual story at some point instead of exposition and full chapters dedicated to the backstory of every character. We already knew MC was odd and couldn't cook well when he began and that he still ate his failed creations, it was written into the first chapter. Unless the friend is going to be summoned in the next chapter this is just a waste of a chapter. At this point it feels like the plot has come to a complete standstill and the author just has no clue how to progress.

 

[HaikenEdge]

It would be nice to get to actual story at some point instead of exposition and full chapters dedicated to the backstory of every character. We already knew MC was odd and couldn't cook well when he began and that he still ate his failed creations, it was written into the first chapter. Unless the friend is going to be summoned in the next chapter this is just a waste of a chapter. At this point it feels like the plot has come to a complete standstill and the author just has no clue how to progress.

Honestly, it feels a little like the author enjoys doing the character design of writing a story and not the writing the story part of writing a story.

 

[SomeConch357]

What the fuck was that chapter for? Why was the introduction of Yamagishi necessary? Couldn't this have just been told without introducing a side character that's likely to never come up again?

how dare they spend time fleshing out the world and the story instead of just speed running all the light novel and not having anything else to make chapters with

 

[HaikenEdge]

how dare they spend time fleshing out the world and the story instead of just speed running all the light novel and not having anything else to make chapters with

Having a side character who very likely isn't coming to the isekai world isn't fleshing out the world, and that part of the backstory could have been fleshed out and expanded from just Shuri's POV.

 

[Hcheaz]

yapping chapter

 

[JJTheWeeb]

What the fuck was that chapter for? Why was the introduction of Yamagishi necessary? Couldn't this have just been told without introducing a side character that's likely to never come up again?

considering this was called a side story chapter on the first page. probably a volume .5 type chapter, so not neccessary for the story and probably just included as a bonus rather than part of regular release