Youjo Senki - Vol. 25 Ch. 79 - Long-Distance Reconnaissance Mission V

[darkrai69]

Yep. Anyone who refutes anti-communist conspiracy theories is a closet commie. Just like any anti-racist is black, and a fighter against homophobia is a latent gay. Exactly. Well, I no longer even doubted the fact that you can’t even distinguish political satire from reality. It's amazing how you also don't believe that the author is a neo-Nazi, lmao.

And of course, I sincerely believe that a keyboard warrior like you, who monitors and likes any anti-commie comments, has nothing to do with the fake troll account that accidentally appeared in his thread. Shit happens.


The only thing funnier than your comment is how he tried to justify himself so that no one would think that he was offended by it, lmao.

Carlo Zen describes himself as a Hobbyist Commie.

 

[darkrai69]

Comments are really heated here huh?
Also I see we're getting closer to when the movie took place

At this point, The movie has already started. The opening scenes are the 203rd finishing off their trip to Africa.

 

[SuperOniichan]

Carlo Zen describes himself as a Hobbyist Commie.

What is not some kind of mystery or secret, and? He tweets about it quite openly. Or are you, like the rest of the weirdos here, trying to buy a communist's satire of anti-communist conspiracy theories as a actual author's anti-communist take?

 

[darkrai69]

What is not some kind of mystery or secret, and? He tweets about it quite openly. Or are you, like the rest of the weirdos here, trying to buy a communist's satire of anti-communist conspiracy theories as a actual author's anti-communist take?

Misread and thought you were calling him a Neo-Nazi.

 

[SuperOniichan]

Misread and thought you were calling him a Neo-Nazi.

I called him a neo-Nazi as a sarcasm when the guy at the beginning of the thread told me that since the title was a satire on the Soviet regime, then the author and the work were anti-communist. To which I replied that it was strange that with such logic he did not believe that the author was a neo-Nazi because of the portrayal of Germans in the story, which, oddly enough, quite a lot of weirdos believe.

UPD. Pretend to be neutral, admitting that the author himself is a commie, and then like a comment that calls for killing communists. Ah, I love culture warriors.

 

[kikunojo]

Only good commie is a dead one.

 

[bk3k]

I love the "We suck so bad at TL, ED, and QC that we need people to report it to us in Discord"

If you have the time to make a rant at the end, spend it to make the translation better.

I love entitled twats.

If you have time to complain so much about the fruits of other people's work - that you paid nothing for - you have time to do better yourself.

 

[vidopnir]

Cry about it drone
I do think its funny that they are still recruiting for all positions, no progress has been made on the almost 20 regular chapter backlog, and the group leader wanted to taunt Death Toll about being slow.

 

[kunyka]

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Seriously? Links to the Holodomor, which Western propaganda portrays as a Ukrainian genocide, ignoring the simultaneous famine in many regions of the USSR, the assertion that Ukraine was a satellite state and not a literal part of Tsarist Russia and the USSR (With that logic, Hawaii is an American satellite state, lmao.), links to obviously biased Ukrainian sources in support of a completely slanderous article about attempts Russians to destroy the Ukrainian language? Dude, don't try to sell crap to someone whose ancestors lived in Ukraine for centuries. In the Russian language there is still a meme “helping the starving people of the Volga region,” referring to the zone of this famine in a place completely far from Ukraine.

Ukrainian nationalists simply turned this into a convenient propaganda tool, pretending that the famine only happened in Ukraine and that Stalin, for some crazy reason, decided to kill all Ukrainians (just because he's evil, yeah). In fact, local officials literally told him that everything was fine and were subsequently shot for negligence and forgery of documents. The same thing with the supposed “preparations for an attack on the West,” when Stalin, stupidly, until the very last minute, did not believe that Hitler would attack him and even devalued the Soviet intelligence officers who reported this (for example, read about the sad fate of Richard Sorge, who died warning Stalin, but he did not believe him). Or how the command of the Soviet fleet literally risked their careers and lives to prepare the fleet for a potential Nazi attack despite Stalin's skepticism. But with clowns like you, he SUDDENLY went from a the fool who trusted the lies of the Nazis to a master of secret plans, lmao.

At least try to google what Ukrainization is and what genre the most popular Ukrainian band Chervona Ruta played (Ukrainian folk rock in a country that supposedly oppresses Ukrainian culture, yeah). The main Ukrainian Soviet film studio named after Dovzhenko literally specialized in films about Ukrainian history and culture. Gross mistakes that you simply don’t realize due to lack of the necessary education. The Soviets literally promoted national culture in all its manifestations within the framework of socialist international ideals. Especially in areas that suffered from Tsarist Russia. To such an extent that asking about roots in the USSR was considered vulgar and ugly, because by showing interest in this, you showed that a person’s personality is determined for you by ethnicity. Therefore, the USSR always promoted internationalism and national revival.

Or how the Baltic countries received endless resources from Russia (just like they are doing now from the EU). This continues in modern Russia, Russian nationalists constantly criticize the authorities for funding various national republics.

And you're literally trying to defend learning history on YouTube with "you didn't provide yours"? You still have the nerve to demand that I justify myself, lmao. Dude, I've lived here for over 30 years, my ancestors include Russians, Ukrainians and Jews of all different political views and social backgrounds. Just enough. What you are trying to attribute to the USSR is true for most Western capitalist or monarchical regimes, but it was never characteristic of the USSR as a socialist state.

And don't even try to put your scarecrow on me, I never claim that communism was the ideal ideology, I was even a critic of communism for most of my adult life myself. But this does not mean that I will buy all pseudo-historical nonsense and propaganda clichés just because I am biased against communism as any radical ideology. Especially when it concerns my country and even goes so far as to justify Nazi propaganda. This is my last answer, I’m not going to spend half my life here discussing nonsense that someone found on YouTube or modern Ukrainian nationalist journalism.

STOP FUCKING LIE. WTF YOU ALL WISH OUR PEOPLE DEATH?! WTF YOU CALL HOLODOMOR FAKE!? WTF YOU DENY VICTIMS OF OLOCAUST AMONG ROMANI PEOPLE?! WTF YOU PROMOTE RUSSIAN COLONIALISM?! WTF YOUI CALL OUR PEOPLE NAZI?!
STOP FUCKING WISH UKRAINE DISAPPEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SuperOniichan]

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STOP FUCKING LIE. WTF YOU ALL WISH OUR PEOPLE DEATH?! WTF YOU CALL HOLODOMOR FAKE!? WTF YOU DENY VICTIMS OF OLOCAUST AMONG ROMANI PEOPLE?! WTF YOU PROMOTE RUSSIAN COLONIALISM?! WTF YOUI CALL OUR PEOPLE NAZI?!
STOP FUCKING WISH UKRAINE DISAPPEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now touch the grass and read what I wrote again, but carefully. The Holodomor happened and no one has ever denied its victims. The only debate is whether it was a deliberate genocide of Ukrainians or not, since this is very politicized and the fighters for the theory of "deliberate genocide" tend to ignore the fact that the Famine also occurred in many other regions of the USSR, including those populated by Russians. Not to mention that this simply turns the real death of real people into a political instrument, for those who use it, they and their deaths are not as important as their nationality and the ability to use it for political gain. I haven't even mentioned the Roma, let alone denial of their victims in the Holocaust. Which is absolutely nuts, considering I'm half Jewish and one of my great-great-grandmothers was a Roma. Learn to read carefully already, weirdo. That's the first thing. Secondly, spare me your fucking hysteria with labels and delusional accusations written with caps. I have too little time to waste on someone who can't even carefully read what they're screaming in my ear about. And thirdly, yes, people who promote Nazi propaganda are Nazis. Either Nazi sympathizers or Nazi revanchists, choose as you like. Regardless of their nationality. Considering that you are one of those people who are simply incapable of any reasonable dialogue (especially considering the history of your comments, which mostly consist of aggressive attacks on anyone who in any way mentions Ukraine in a non-positive sense), I will simply muted you from now on. Sorry.

 

[kunyka]

Now touch the grass and read what I wrote again, but carefully. The Holodomor happened and no one has ever denied its victims. The only debate is whether it was a deliberate genocide of Ukrainians or not, since this is very politicized and the fighters for the theory of "deliberate genocide" tend to ignore the fact that the Famine also occurred in many other regions of the USSR, including those populated by Russians. Not to mention that this simply turns the real death of real people into a political instrument, for those who use it, they and their deaths are not as important as their nationality and the ability to use it for political gain. I haven't even mentioned the Roma, let alone denial of their victims in the Holocaust. Which is absolutely nuts, considering I'm half Jewish and one of my great-great-grandmothers was a Roma. Learn to read carefully already, weirdo. That's the first thing. Secondly, spare me your fucking hysteria with labels and delusional accusations written with caps. I have too little time to waste on someone who can't even carefully read what they're screaming in my ear about. And thirdly, yes, people who promote Nazi propaganda are Nazis. Either Nazi sympathizers or Nazi revanchists, choose as you like. Regardless of their nationality. Considering that you are one of those people who are simply incapable of any reasonable dialogue, I will simply muted you from now on. Sorry.

1. It was a genocide of Ukrainian people.
2. Nobody denies crimes of Soviet regime against other nations (banishment of Chechens and Crimean Tatars during WWII, for example).

 

[arielsawesome]

If you think that they really intended to do this outside of a very formal and vague "world communist revolution", then your personal knowledge clearly consists of anti-communist urban legends and conspiracy theories

For reference: I’m speaking as a socialist who hates America and the Soviet Union equally so don’t worry about anti-communist pro-capitalist propoganda clouding my view.

Actions speak louder than words and the Soviet Union was just as imperialistic (despite their stated anti-imperialist ideals) as the capitalist European powers and Americans they fought against.

They DID take over half of Europe. And Asia. A bit of North America too. Oh and don't forget all the proxy wars in South/Central America, Africa, and Asian countries that never shared their borders. How much of the world do they need to take over before it becomes clear that they want to control it all? How much violent military force do they have to use to show that they aren't fighting for equality?

Oh and this Soviet era propaganda poster seems to be a pretty significant indicator too:

Stop trying to counter anti-communist propaganda by simply changing which fascist regime you support in a black and white view of the Cold War. Historical revisionism helps nobody but the oppressive ruling class, no matter what flavor they claim to be.

Remember comrades: The enemy of your enemy is not your friend. Don’t compromise your ideals for those who misuse them. Don’t excuse evils committed against the people by denying reality.

*Is it really communism if it recreates a class system? If it relies on force instead of mutually beneficial cooperation?

 

[SuperOniichan]

For reference: I’m speaking as a socialist who hates America and the Soviet Union equally so don’t worry about anti-communist pro-capitalist propoganda clouding my view.

Actions speak louder than words and the Soviet Union was just as imperialistic (despite their stated anti-imperialist ideals) as the capitalist European powers and Americans they fought against.

They DID take over half of Europe. And Asia. A bit of North America too. Oh and don't forget all the proxy wars in South/Central America, Africa, and Asian countries that never shared their borders. How much of the world do they need to take over before it becomes clear that they want to control it all? How much violent military force do they have to use to show that they aren't fighting for equality?

Oh and this Soviet era propaganda poster seems to be a pretty significant indicator too:

Stop trying to counter anti-communist propaganda by simply changing which fascist regime you support in a black and white view of the Cold War. Historical revisionism helps nobody but the oppressive ruling class, no matter what flavor they claim to be.

Remember comrades: The enemy of your enemy is not your friend. Don’t compromise your ideals for those who misuse them. Don’t excuse evils committed against the people by denying reality.

*Is it really communism if it recreates a class system? If it relies on force instead of mutually beneficial cooperation?

For reference: I speak as a Russian who considers communism a rather utopian ideology, but who is tired of reading how even Western leftists happily stuff their mouths with anti-Soviet propaganda created by the far right, often without even realizing how they consume Russophobic narratives along with it. Not to mention the German nationalists who are ready to believe any crap that demonizes the USSR and justifies the Nazis because of their resentment at the results of World War II, of which there turned out to be a suspiciously large number here.

Actions speak louder than words, but what exactly they mean is often highly subject to interpretation. It's often highly biased, depending on who you ask.

What you call half of Europe and Asia was the territory of former Tsarist Russia. Because the USSR SUDDENLY became the heir to Tsarist Russia and perceived its territory as its legitimate borders. You literally sound like the weridos above, who think Chechnya is a separate state and tried, through a series of manipulative wordplays, to equate the USSR's struggle for sovereignty with its imperialism.

Or, as mentioned above, to equate the USSR, which conquered no one, with Nazi Germany, while simultaneously blatantly and ridiculously covering for the regimes of former Nazi collaborators in Ukraine and the Baltics (which obviously only further devalues this thesis as an initially anti-Soviet trick). Oh my god, the US even helped former Nazi veterans and politicians organize a network of ultra-right anti-Soviet cells around the world. Don't even try to tell me about the proxy wars that were happening in Africa and South America simultaneously with similar US actions. Which you clearly can't deny, since you're clearly not one of those weirdos who's willing to ignore Pinochet's crimes just because he fought communists, right?

I'm not going to repeat the entire thread all over again years later, including explaining that the "Nazism = Communism" thesis originally emerged as a political narrative of US and other capitalists, or that we can go far if we use propaganda posters (By the way, the poster here is talking about communism as a super-duper ideology, and not about the tale of the entire world to the USSR, yes) as non-ironic proof of some intentions or actions (you mentioned these "actions" above, lmao?), sorry.