Yuukyuu no Gusha Asley no, Kenja no Susume - Vol. 5 Ch. 28

[Monky]

Nice. I like reading manga with tactics.

 

[conscript117]

@breizh
Don't know how old you are but in the working field you must respect those of higher status or at least show a decent amount of civil education.

 

[StLL]

Where is orge city. Those are some nice armour they're wearing

 

[jrohrer13]

@VanJosh

Spoiler

Man you don't know how many times that is implied in the web novel and played for laughs

 

[Happily_Grim]

@breizh - I get where you're coming from and all; however, bowing and/or apologizing to someone of a higher social status, or class in a caste, for rude behavior was common in medieval times for most cultures -- particularly when involved in some sort of military-type service. Maybe they could have translated "Irene-dono" to "Lady Irene" but I understand why they chose not to, and it doesn't really affect anything.

 

[VanJosh]

@jrohrer13 hahaha! I didn't know? Good to know they think the same lol

 

[Xirre]

@breizh well they can't help it. It's a Japanese manga not a western one. Just like how westerners whitewash some of the movies from other countries. Even One Piece couldn't escape this with them using the reverse naming convention (last name then first name) Because their Japanese audience wouldn't know the difference in culture unless the audience have a background on that kind of period.

 

[kaitoti]

Thanks for the chapter, hopefully the author will release faster

 

[qwyxivi]

@Monky Tactics are fun, but the ogres don't look like they have a strategist haha.

Because the key point in war is to attack at with all your units the same time. Letting your own units get attacked while other units remain idle is wasting time and power. (Unless you're trying to drag the enemy formation into a tactical trap.)

There's a good reason why warfare is conducted in lines and why people to try to stretch the lines as far as they can to get around the edges of your opponent's lines. Because edges are really bad at defending themselves.

 

[Maugreas]

@qwyxivi is that irony ?
Because in war you do not to send all your troops at once at the beginning, unless you have some very specific situation that requires it.
If you send all your troops, you have nothing to answer a change in the battlefield, like a surprise attack from hidden forces, your front line that is breaking and need reinforcing, the enemy front line that is breaking and only needs one more push to finish it.
Also, having a back line allows you to switch your front and reserve forces to preserve the stamina of your soldiers.

 

[Kyujyu]

@qwyxivi Thats only efficient when you have the space for it and confident you can end the fight quickly, if the fight goes on for long, having multiple division and sending them in waves is the way to go as reasons explain by Maugreas.
Also with different type of armies i.e melee, attack magician, support magician, their formation made sense.

 

[breizh]

@conscript117 I work as a med student so I know full well how to pay respect in work but there's being polite and being polite like a japanese. The phrases that they use and their body language is typically japanese...

@Xirre Yeah but in one piece they don't act like japanese people. And I know that they can't help it, their main audience is japanese to begin with but still

@Happily_Grim Yeah but here they are acting like typical japanese people, the way they talk and their stiff bows, it doesn't seem medieval at all.

 

[NotALewdGuy]

Oh Pocchi

 

[hokujin]

I hate how these stories with ancient MC's ALWAYS treat them like they're still young. Authors only use their age to make them OP. It's so dumb how they not only look young, but they act no different from anyone else who looks their age.

 

[Konrad2]

Thanks for the translation.

 

[undercurses]

A grade schooler playing total war with basic tactic .... And this is the result

 

[qwyxivi]

@Maugreas @Kyujyu I invite you guys to actually read more about the theory of military strategy, particularly about Lanchester's laws, and concentration of force.

The only time when concentration of force can be overridden in an attack is when there are huge area of effect attacks, when there are chokepoints that limit your maximum "surface area", and when there are very distinct unit types. Neither of these conditions hold for the ogres (although the last condition holds for the humans, and their formation makes sense).

If your front line needs reinforcing, it is far more effective to just have the reinforcements there in the first place; you'll whittle down the enemy forces meanwhile, and (unless there are very effective AOE attacks) you'll not take any more damage than usual.

Concentration of force is also relevant in a defense, but the usual circumstance is that the defenders do not know the attacker formation, so they use a weaker front line as a signalling mechanism that calls the stronger forces behind to the attack location. In that case, the front line does not charge at the enemy; their objective is to hold out for as long as possible, collect information on the attackers, and signal the reinforcements to their location (for example, the long front lines during WWI would signal tanks to come to their location to rescue them *while moving backwards*). In no circumstance do we have units waiting idly for an attack, and in no circumstance does a weak group charge at a clearly stronger group; if you're weaker than the enemy, your job is to stall for time until reinforcements come and charging does not give you more time.

 

[Fari]

@hokujin On the one hand, I agree, characters that actually act old would be refreshing, on the other hand this mf hasn't actually gotten more world experience than your typical like 20 year old since he literally didn't leave his cave for nearly his entire life.

An aged personality largely comes out of actually gaining life experience, which, yeah, not so much for this mediocre man. His int got kinda high with lots of experiments but his wis hasn't been touched til he recently came out.

 

[MoonLightXC]

I still wonder why people who read this manga and have gotten this far think our protagonist's "OP as heck and is thus capable of instakilling anything with just a thought", no, if you have actually read the text and aren't just looking and the drawings, he's not, he's knowledgeable in all things possible, but not only is his talent and thus capabilities only above average (as said by the man himself), he's a frickin' hermit whose last few hundred years were passed on a goddamn cave reading books, our dear Pochi isn't that OP either, semi-inflated stats aren't going to get you anywhere on WoW endgame mind you, he's simply incapable of insta-casting sh!t like "Meteor Rain" and killing gods by "mistake" unlike a certain manga.

EDIT: Spelling

 

[Hell_Satan]

@MoonLightXC what do expect with thee comment section for every 5 commented there is 1 who lacks reading comprehension.