Yuusha kara wa Nigerarenai - Ch. 1

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youre just reading into something that isnt there. they dont need a justification. Thief wants money, enough said. The sword doesnt want to fight until the goddess starts helping so chose the thief who wouldnt want to take it to the front lines. theres no deeper reasoning and there doesnt neeed to be.
You’re ignoring the pull of the premise and the characters. Their justification is the only reason why we would care about the story because it will drive where the story goes: LITERALLY character motivation. Yet, your point feed mine because I was saying that their justifications are surprisingly weak. If that’s all there is to the characters, then they are paper thin and not too enjoyable which is why, calling it ahead of time, the author is looking for some larger subversion to write the characters into a place they actually think is interesting.
 
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You’re ignoring the pull of the premise and the characters. Their justification is the only reason why we would care about the story because it will drive where the story goes: LITERALLY character motivation. Yet, your point feed mine because I was saying that their justifications are surprisingly weak. If that’s all there is to the characters, then they are paper thin and not too enjoyable which is why, calling it ahead of time, the author is looking for some larger subversion to write the characters into a place they actually think is interesting.
i dont care about motivation, myself. i care about character. Personality, MC is interesting enough for me. His motivation could be anything. He could be motivated by wanting to find a potion to increase his peen size for all i give a dang. That aside, i say you're reading too much into it because you seem to think of things from the perspective of someone reading a western hardcover or something. Japanese authors arent the same. If you've read enough of this kind of story, you would know to keep expectations low and take things at face value.

MY prediction is author is gonna spend the next 30 chapters having the MC and the sword do their hardest to get off the frontlines and just stumble their way through everything with no real plan but somehow having everything all work out. Maybe they pull some hijinks along the way, but they'll be forced into situations they dont want to do, panic on how to escape, then bullshit their way through and come out relatively unscathed. It going to be a dark story only when MC isnt in the scene, then it becomes more of a comedy as he over reacts and bumbles his way out of a bad situation.
 
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i dont care about motivation, myself. i care about character. Personality, MC is interesting enough for me. His motivation could be anything. He could be motivated by wanting to find a potion to increase his peen size for all i give a dang. That aside, i say you're reading too much into it because you seem to think of things from the perspective of someone reading a western hardcover or something. Japanese authors arent the same. If you've read enough of this kind of story, you would know to keep expectations low and take things at face value.

MY prediction is author is gonna spend the next 30 chapters having the MC and the sword do their hardest to get off the frontlines and just stumble their way through everything with no real plan but somehow having everything all work out. Maybe they pull some hijinks along the way, but they'll be forced into situations they dont want to do, panic on how to escape, then bullshit their way through and come out relatively unscathed. It going to be a dark story only when MC isnt in the scene, then it becomes more of a comedy as he over reacts and bumbles his way out of a bad situation.
The motivation IS a major part of character and personality is a separate consideration. If his motivation is to run away, then his character has to support it, so you wouldn’t see the mismatched traits of bravery or dedication or steadfastness applied unless there was some kind of twist on the concept. If he wanted to increase his peen size, his character would not support working tirelessly for an “ensmallification potion”, but would have support for working tirelessly in general because “the best members know how to stay hard regardless of size”. You see? Motivation allows for the derivation of character in both behavior and trait, and thus when you come at odds with those traits or seemingly don’t support them it hints that more is going on. If that’s really not happening, then the author is not doing a great job by unwittingly putting out a signal and not recognizing it? The MC here has only shown points of action and perseverance in response motivated by his own validation, like just digging up the sword or striking with the shovel because his work was in vain, not motivated by his supposed goal of making money. That alone hints at the “this initial setup is more of a formality” idea I brought up as well.
I’v read plenty of these kinds of stories and that is specifically why this one is putting out signs that feel different: like the author is going for something more but may botch it since things don’t quite line up.
 
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I like it BUT...if the sword gives him OP buffs making him stumble upon SSS rewards the whole time I'm dropping. Some boost is okay but if it's too consistent there's really no point to read. If I liked that trash I would've been reading chinese manga instead.
 
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I feel the sword is not holy at all

and it feel like the sword is sus

well we'll find out later..
 
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The motivation IS a major part of character and personality is a separate consideration. If his motivation is to run away, then his character has to support it, so you wouldn’t see the mismatched traits of bravery or dedication or steadfastness applied unless there was some kind of twist on the concept. If he wanted to increase his peen size, his character would not support working tirelessly for an “ensmallification potion”, but would have support for working tirelessly in general because “the best members know how to stay hard regardless of size”. You see? Motivation allows for the derivation of character in both behavior and trait, and thus when you come at odds with those traits or seemingly don’t support them it hints that more is going on. If that’s really not happening, then the author is not doing a great job by unwittingly putting out a signal and not recognizing it? The MC here has only shown points of action and perseverance in response motivated by his own validation, like just digging up the sword or striking with the shovel because his work was in vain, not motivated by his supposed goal of making money. That alone hints at the “this initial setup is more of a formality” idea I brought up as well.
I’v read plenty of these kinds of stories and that is specifically why this one is putting out signs that feel different: like the author is going for something more but may botch it since things don’t quite line up.
feels like in talking to a robot who understands the logical part of human behavior but not tthe emotional part. He didnt strike the thing simply because all that hard work was wasted, he did it because now it means he cant sell the thing and that made him flare up. Its human to get annoyed and angry when things dont work out how you want. This was then immediately resolved because when he discovered its abilities he came up with the scam of selling the sword and then having it return to him and then continuing this to amass wealth.

People almost never do the most logical or efficient thing that allows them to achieve their goals. They do whats most easy and comfortable for them, they cut corners, they bitch and moan when it becomes too hard. Maybe they employ better methods later on, maybe they reach their goals, maybe not.

Its just weird that you think a man trying to dig up gold and being frustrated that its not so easy as he thought is somehow some indication of author trying to set something up based off of, what, MC's momentary display of dissatisfaction? The author might very well put the MC in a place the author finds more interesting, yes. The frontlines. Thats the entire premise of this story. He got caught, he's gonna be forced to take part in this hero nonsense and gonna scheme and panic every inch of the way while trying to at leastmake some big bucks out of it somehow. That was never a mystery, man. There's no need to even guess.
 

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