Yuusha Party wo Tsuihousareta Hakuma Doushi, S Rank Boukensha ni Hirowareru ~Kono Hakuma Doushi ga Kikakugai Sugiru~ - Ch. 22.2

[MangaDex]

 

[Michael_Chandra]

Why the fuck would you spare people that literally tried to murder someone in broad daylight?

 

[JBlazer]

I take it she's another former Great Hero?

 

[popinloopy]

Thank you for the update!

 

[Kaarme]

You can tell Yui is somewhat immature as a fighter, due to her young age, as she can't predict more subtle or underhanded strategies unscrupulous human opponents would employ.

 

[Endilbiach]

I take it she's another former Great Hero?

Is this Lily? Go back and look at chapter 10.
Pretty sure I'm right. Which means you're right.

 

[YukiOnna]

Is this Lily? Go back and look at chapter 10.
Pretty sure I'm right. Which means you're right.

I think it is Lily

 

[YHXiang]

I WAS RIGHT it was Lily a former member of the legendary party with Merlin and the alchemist

 

[ciera]

thanks for the release

 

[FyreLorde]

Is this Lily? Go back and look at chapter 10.
Pretty sure I'm right. Which means you're right.

You are correct, she is Lily. I don't know how to attach an image from my phone so I can't give you the evidence, sorry. But she is featured on page 6 of chapter 10, like you mentioned.

 

[tekkenshu7]

Thanks for the new chapter!

I had to go back to earlier chapters (thanks to those who pointed it out) to see if this woman is from Merlin's old party and yeah she seems to be Lily. She might be the designated swordswoman/warrior/spellblade of their party.

 

[hevensdragon]

Why the fuck would you spare people that literally tried to murder someone in broad daylight?

Because them being nobles is extremely troublesome. Even if they totally deserved to be killed being from a different county and not doing it a in official manner will mean other nobles raising a fuss, which could even lead to war or other retaliations. The noble also wasn't a direct threat, her guards were, it would be one thing if was done during the fight, but after she was no longer arm with guards it wouldn't be self defense or defense of another, it would just be murder no matter how justified. Better to do somthing properly, they are in a position to report it to the royal family. Better to just report it and let them sort it out, having a noble not blatantly unhinged is nothing but a detriment to the royal family so they will deal with it.

 

[Miserys_End]

Why the fuck would you spare people that literally tried to murder someone in broad daylight?

While hevensdragon has it mostly correct, I would just like to add that killing them will solve very little. Oh sure you would remove the immediate problem, but it doesn't solve the root of the problem, and would infact just reinforce it.

Violence begets more violence. True self defense is honorable, but if you pursue extreme measures and justify them as defending yourself, you just open yourself to reprisals in kind.

 

[Elhao]

Because them being nobles is extremely troublesome. Even if they totally deserved to be killed being from a different county and not doing it a in official manner will mean other nobles raising a fuss, which could even lead to war or other retaliations. The noble also wasn't a direct threat, her guards were, it would be one thing if was done during the fight, but after she was no longer arm with guards it wouldn't be self defense or defense of another, it would just be murder no matter how justified. Better to do somthing properly, they are in a position to report it to the royal family. Better to just report it and let them sort it out, having a noble not blatantly unhinged is nothing but a detriment to the royal family so they will deal with it.

Ah yes, right. I clearly remember the part where they verified the noble's identity, made sure to collect evidence of the misdeed and to relay it to the responsible authorities in a way it wouldn't be possible for her to deny the allegations and weasel out of it later.

Oh no, wait. She almost literally said "Don't do it again, or else." and let all of them leave (possibly to get replacement swords, slap the mage awake, maybe even add a few more guards/mercenaries and return).

While hevensdragon has it mostly correct, I would just like to add that killing them will solve very little. Oh sure you would remove the immediate problem, but it doesn't solve the root of the problem, and would infact just reinforce it.

Violence begets more violence. True self defense is honorable, but if you pursue extreme measures and justify them as defending yourself, you just open yourself to reprisals in kind.

Those are funny and very general words. How specifically do they apply in this situation? Do you think other nobles would rush in and go on a child slaughtering spree in revenge? Because that'd be a good way to lose their head. The French have experience in that regard (not with child murders in particular, but the public disposal of tyrannical nobles). I'm not a big history buff, but that kinda seemed to work for them.

 

[hevensdragon]

Ah yes, right. I clearly remember the part where they verified the noble's identity, made sure to collect evidence of the misdeed and to relay it to the responsible authorities in a way it wouldn't be possible for her to deny the allegations and weasel out of it later.

Oh no, wait. She almost literally said "Don't do it again, or else." and let all of them leave (possibly to get replacement swords, slap the mage awake, maybe even add a few more guards/mercenaries and return).

Those are funny and very general words. How specifically do they apply in this situation? Do you think other nobles would rush in and go on a child slaughtering spree in revenge? Because that'd be a good way to lose their head. The French have experience in that regard (not with child murders in particular, but the public disposal of tyrannical nobles). I'm not a big history buff, but that kinda seemed to work for them.

With that many witnesses, as if they don't have enough to id her and get statements. Everyone in the city will know who she is and what she did within the week.
As for the threat, she isn't a guard or anything of that country, she isn't in a position to detain. A threat like that would lower the odds of her just lashing out in anger at someone buying time for the report and arrest. And while the mentor was the one who made the threat and is trying to lay low so may leave it at that, she isn't the only one who let the noble go, despite drawing her sword to defend Yui did not object to her being let go as she also knew better. It doesn't matter what a noble did, if a commoner killed them after they were already disarmed other nobles would make them pay for it through harassments and attacks.
As for what they would do to other countries, they would demand compensation and use it as a leverage point for political gains, that someone from another country came in and killed a noble. The reason why wouldn't matter. Fact is there are guards and other officials for a reason, and vigilante justice is a crime. Its far to slippery of a slope for it to go to far and deal excessive punishments. Which is why there is a correct way to deal with things.

 

[Elhao]

With that many witnesses, as if they don't have enough to id her and get statements. Everyone in the city will know who she is and what she did within the week.
As for the threat, she isn't a guard or anything of that country, she isn't in a position to detain. A threat like that would lower the odds of her just lashing out in anger at someone buying time for the report and arrest. And while the mentor was the one who made the threat and is trying to lay low so may leave it at that, she isn't the only one who let the noble go, despite drawing her sword to defend Yui did not object to her being let go as she also knew better. It doesn't matter what a noble did, if a commoner killed them after they were already disarmed other nobles would make them pay for it through harassments and attacks.
As for what they would do to other countries, they would demand compensation and use it as a leverage point for political gains, that someone from another country came in and killed a noble. The reason why wouldn't matter. Fact is there are guards and other officials for a reason, and vigilante justice is a crime. Its far to slippery of a slope for it to go to far and deal excessive punishments. Which is why there is a correct way to deal with things.

MD's quote system is a bit annoying, so I'll have to dissect this post manually:

With that many witnesses, as if they don't have enough to id her and get statements. Everyone in the city will know who she is and what she did within the week.

Rechecking last chapter some onlooker said she might be from the Windy family, so while identification may theoretically be possible, that rumor mill is its own problem. Witness statements and identities needed to be secured asap, however no one did that. Worse: Yui and the other woman are even pissing off for their fun little sparring match. With that it'll be easy to call out potential witnesses as liars making false statements.

As for the threat, she isn't a guard or anything of that country, she isn't in a position to detain.

Nowadays many countries have citizen's arrest laws for cases like this. I can't say anything about this kingdom, but it would be a glaring oversight, allowing countless crimes if it didn't exist.

A threat like that would lower the odds of her just lashing out in anger at someone buying time for the report and arrest.

Good luck trying to arrest someone without any evidence except for witness statements taken a significant amount of time after the fact, see above, even without assuming corruption within law enforcement. She needed to at the very least be detained until the guards arrived. As long as she's free, she is an unchecked threat to everyone around her.

Yui did not object to her being let go as she also knew better

Where does it spell out Yui's thoughts on this matter? That is literally your headcanon (as are many assumptions about this country's laws). I'd say Yui standing around is just due to the author not having put 10% of our thoughts and investment into this situation.

It doesn't matter what a noble did, if a commoner killed them after they were already disarmed other nobles would make them pay for it through harassments and attacks.

As said above, that's a great way to spark a revolution. If that was how that country worked, I say let it go to hell.

As for what they would do to other countries, they would demand compensation and use it as a leverage point for political gains, that someone from another country came in and killed a noble. The reason why wouldn't matter.

Your use of personal pronouns... Who are "they"? No one but you has brought other countries into this. If you mean the noble might have been a foreigner, they had to adhere to the laws of the country they were in and suffer the consequences if they didn't, just like everyone else. In fact her behaviour of mistreating and trying to arbitrarily murder the citizens of a foreign nation could have been used to spark a war, so the kingdom might even have bigger leverage. Personally I think it is unlikely though or the onlookers would not have chosen to refer to her as someone from the "famous Windy family", but probably added a reference to that family's origin.

Fact is there are guards and other officials for a reason, and vigilante justice is a crime. Its far to slippery of a slope for it to go to far and deal excessive punishments. Which is why there is a correct way to deal with things.

Yeah, problem is these guards and officials weren't there. So you'll just allow murder to happen if there isn't accidentally a policeman right at the corner to intervene, I guess. Leaving a mob lynching aside that correct way would have been to detain the woman until the authorities arrived and recorded everything.

It's a bit annoying that you jump between lynching the woman and detaining her as if these options were the same. In my opinion the woman deserved to be lynched, but had to be detained to remove her as a very real threat to the victim and witnesses. Intimidating her and then fucking off so everyone else could fend for themselves in case she did return was the most asinine decision to make.

 

[flannan]

Why the fuck would you spare people that literally tried to murder someone in broad daylight?

Because you don't murder them in broad daylight. You murder them at night, in circumstances that will not make you the prime suspect.

 

[Volttekka]

Bro the simple answer is that not everybody jumps to the conclusion that assholes deserve immediate death

 

[hevensdragon]

"Yui did not object to her being let go as she also knew better"

Where does it spell out Yui's thoughts on this matter? That is literally your headcanon (as are many assumptions about this country's laws). I'd say Yui standing around is just due to the author not having put 10% of our thoughts and investment into this situation.

She was standing right there and said nothing and didn't raise any objection despite being right there and involved. A simple statement you just failed to even understand.

It doesn't matter what a noble did, if a commoner killed them after they were already disarmed other nobles would make them pay for it through harassments and attacks.
As for what they would do to other countries, they would demand compensation and use it as a leverage point for political gains, that someone from another country came in and killed a noble.

Your use of personal pronouns... Who are "they"?

Context clues dumb dumb, its pretty clear I am talking about the other nobles still.

Fact is there are guards and other officials for a reason, and vigilante justice is a crime. Its far to slippery of a slope for it to go to far and deal excessive punishments. Which is why there is a correct way to deal with things.

Yeah, problem is these guards and officials weren't there. So you'll just allow murder to happen if there isn't accidentally a policeman right at the corner to intervene, I guess. Leaving a mob lynching aside that correct way would have been to detain the woman until the authorities arrived and recorded everything.

It's a bit annoying that you jump between lynching the woman and detaining her as if these options were the same. In my opinion the woman deserved to be lynched, but had to be detained to remove her as a very real threat to the victim and witnesses. Intimidating her and then fucking off so everyone else could fend for themselves in case she did return was the most asinine decision to make

Yeah this right here is the meat of your hissy fit. I know your calling for a lynching. Everything else your saying is just you trying to push that smooth brained stance. Your exactly why vigilant justice is illegal. Murder hobos fancying themselves as righteous justice, leaving nothing but death and sorrow in your wake. You don't know how to temper yourself, or think about the consequences of your actions, you just jump to killing as your solution. You have a brain, learn to use it and actually think things through.

PS: md quote system, click the three dots for more options, then click quote the third option on the drop down list. It will insert a quote box at your cursor you can copy past or type stuff into.

 

[Elhao]

She was standing right there and said nothing and didn't raise any objection despite being right there and involved. A simple statement you just failed to even understand.


Context clues dumb dumb, its pretty clear I am talking about the other nobles still.


Yeah this right here is the meat of your hissy fit. I know your calling for a lynching. Everything else your saying is just you trying to push that smooth brained stance. Your exactly why vigilant justice is illegal. Murder hobos fancying themselves as righteous justice, leaving nothing but death and sorrow in your wake. You don't know how to temper yourself, or think about the consequences of your actions, you just jump to killing as your solution. You have a brain, learn to use it and actually think things through.

PS: md quote system, click the three dots for more options, then click quote the third option on the drop down list. It will insert a quote box at your cursor you can copy past or type stuff into.

At least I don't feel the need to resort to ad hominems and know the difference between "your" and "you're".
It's a bit sad that you don't address any of the actual arguments I have brought up and instead just tell me that you know what I'm thinking and don't care what I wrote.

I guess that's just how weak your point is.

Bro the simple answer is that not everybody jumps to the conclusion that assholes deserve immediate death

Being an asshole =/= calling for (and trying to enforce) the death of a child that accidentally bumped into you. That is being a psychopath and a literal menace to society.


P.s. I do feel the need to dwell on this particular nugget of wisdom:

She was standing right there and said nothing and didn't raise any objection despite being right there and involved. A simple statement you just failed to even understand.

You are aware that I could respond to that by, word for word, repeating the part you quoted and it would be just as valid? You repeating what you wrote before just switching around a few words and adding an adhom doesn't change anything.

No matter how obvious things may appear to you, unless the author states the characters' thoughts and intentions explicitly they are subject to interpretation, or in other words:

And EVEN if I granted this point for the sake of argument, so what? The idiotic actions of one character are supposed to be justified by the lack of a reaction from another character within the same story?

P.p.s. Waitwaitwaitwaitwait... I only just managed to wrap my head around this.

Context clues dumb dumb, its pretty clear I am talking about the other nobles still.

You think some random nobles (since you don't provide any particulars) would have enough authority to demand reparations from another country? Really? How was I supposed to understand a point so... unrealistic? Let's go with this word.