Yuusha Party wo Tsuihousareta Hakuma Doushi, S Rank Boukensha ni Hirowareru ~Kono Hakuma Doushi ga Kikakugai Sugiru~ - Ch. 24

[DeadlyShadow0]

do we get rid of the glass guy?

It would be a pleasure, and thanks you guys from mangasushi

 

[DeadlyShadow0]

Thanks for translating!

Considering his power is based entirely on consumable gloves, glasses-boy is entirely too up his own butt with that ego. I look forward to his pending comeuppance.

Yeah even gloves have a limit and when he reaches that limit what then... Just a useless guy

 

[Kaarme]

Those "adventurers" who won't accept being responsible for their own decisions and safety were even worse than the glasses dude. The glasses dude was arrogant and must be an absolute pain for anyone working under him, but at least he knows what he's doing and what his goals are, more or less. He was correct in telling those complaining fools they should have never entered the dungeon if they aren't prepared for anything. I have hated Lloyd from the very beginning of the manga, so it's no surprise he still wants to help foolish ingrate strangers, and probably would be willing to risk his own life for their sake, even though they wouldn't return the favour in a thousand years.

 

[hevensdragon]

So, shall we assume that neither Glasses nor Chuuni will face consequences for basically killing off their entire team? Glasses is right that adventurers are risking their lives, but as the team lead, they are his responsibility. It behooves him to keep as many alive as possible.

To be fair he isn't really the one who doomed them, He wasn't the one who blasted a hole through the dungeons and triggered the collapse. He just use a slow fall spell to descend down the hole leaving them. He is also in danger, he needs to get deep enough to be safe, but he very well may not be able to get there fast enough while clearing monsters for the weaker members. The one who we should be blaming is the gothic loli who triggered the collapse then took the MC and co who were the best chance of leading the others to safety. He is right that they need to be able to defend themselves, he can only afford to protect them if he has leeway, he had difficulty punching open a hole in that depth, and if the monsters are much stronger down their he may struggle to just protect himself, at which point its not really fair to blame him as he can't protect them.

 

[hevensdragon]

Those "adventurers" who won't accept being responsible for their own decisions and safety were even worse than the glasses dude. The glasses dude was arrogant and must be an absolute pain for anyone working under him, but at least he knows what he's doing and what his goals are, more or less. He was correct in telling those complaining fools they should have never entered the dungeon if they aren't prepared for anything. I have hated Lloyd from the very beginning of the manga, so it's no surprise he still wants to help foolish ingrate strangers, and probably would be willing to risk his own life for their sake, even though they wouldn't return the favour in a thousand years.

I also bugs me how everyone is asking like glasses guy doomed them, but it was the gothic loli that did, he just used a slow fall spell. He knew to get deep to be safe, but he may not even be confident in protecting himself let alone being able to while covering for them.

 

[flannan]

So, three hours into the dungeon, and these "adventurers" are already losing their grip on sanity?
I have no complaints about the dark mage. It was clear she is crazy from the start. But the rest of them make me wonder if dinners at the palace were laced with mind-altering poison. Or maybe dungeons cause fantasy form of drunkenness, similar to how it happens high up in the mountains in our world.

I'm going to agree that the glasses guy is deliberately trying to get them killed. As a leader, he is responsible for everyone, not just his party. And even if he is not the leader, he should avoid getting anyone killed.

Also, it's funny that dungeon floors are fragile in this setting. I'm more used to Strongest Sage's assumption that dungeons are tough, and dungeon floors are extra-tough, which is why adventurers don't just bypass the whole thing all the time.

 

[Kaarme]

I'm going to agree that the glasses guy is deliberately trying to get them killed. As a leader, he is responsible for everyone, not just his party. And even if he is not the leader, he should avoid getting anyone killed.

Who made him the leader? After they had wasted time waiting for the chuuni mage, he got impatient and told everyone to follow him inside. The rest just followed him. It was the kind of situation where someone acting with authority is the first one to make a move, with the rest following behind as if it was the most natural things in the world. However, they are all supposed to be adventurers responsible for themselves. This is why they should never trust other adventurers too much. There would always be a competition going on between adventuring parties. If someone doesn't realise that, he/she is not suited for an adventurer's life.

Certainly, nobody there should be working to get the others killed, but it's also a possibility everyone should have kept in the back of their mind. The closest thing in real life to the fantasy setting's adventurer is a mercenary. That's not super reassuring.

 

[Stonegazer]

Did they really just unalive a rando off screen like that?

RIP, hapless hole-jumping girl. Nobody cared about her enough to even glance down the hole and see what made her scream like that, much less consider a rescue. You'd think even the most heartless, self-centered of adventurers would at least want to know what they're up against if their only options are jump down hole or be crushed by collapsing dungeon.

 

[Wolvenworks]

The clusterfuckening clusterfuckens.

 

[Wolvenworks]

Thanks for translating!

Considering his power is based entirely on consumable gloves, glasses-boy is entirely too up his own butt with that ego. I look forward to his pending comeuppance.

IMO guy way basically P2W.

And like most gold-spamming P2W scrubs in WoT, they don’t have the basic skills to back it up if they ran out of “skill”

 

[popinloopy]

Thank you for the chapter!

 

[hevensdragon]

So, three hours into the dungeon, and these "adventurers" are already losing their grip on sanity?
I have no complaints about the dark mage. It was clear she is crazy from the start. But the rest of them make me wonder if dinners at the palace were laced with mind-altering poison. Or maybe dungeons cause fantasy form of drunkenness, similar to how it happens high up in the mountains in our world.

I'm going to agree that the glasses guy is deliberately trying to get them killed. As a leader, he is responsible for everyone, not just his party. And even if he is not the leader, he should avoid getting anyone killed.

Also, it's funny that dungeon floors are fragile in this setting. I'm more used to Strongest Sage's assumption that dungeons are tough, and dungeon floors are extra-tough, which is why adventurers don't just bypass the whole thing all the time.

You would have a point if he was ordered to be leader, but he wasn't. He took the role himself. They all had the choice to follow him or not. His job is not to guard them, its to clear the dungeon just like its the job of all the others. Their survival is their own responsibility, and if they think he is trying to get them killed they can and should speak up and stop following him.

 

[hevensdragon]

IMO guy way basically P2W.

And like most gold-spamming P2W scrubs in WoT, they don’t have the basic skills to back it up if they ran out of “skill”

Yes no, the gloves act as a consumable staff, but just equipping them doesn't just let you use his spell. They just let you use a spell out of them like any staff. So its still his spell, not sure why he is using it from the gloves, probably a limitation of the spell in some way. But other than that spell he probably has other skills and spells. Still a prick though.

 

[flannan]

You would have a point if he was ordered to be leader, but he wasn't. He took the role himself. They all had the choice to follow him or not. His job is not to guard them, its to clear the dungeon just like its the job of all the others. Their survival is their own responsibility, and if they think he is trying to get them killed they can and should speak up and stop following him.

This reeks of un-professionalism. And as a leader of his own party and a straight-laced hero who criticized the behavior of another hero, he has no excuse.

 

[hevensdragon]

This reeks of un-professionalism. And as a leader of his own party and a straight-laced hero who criticized the behavior of another hero, he has no excuse.

Again, you would have a point if any of his party was killed or abandoned. But he has kept them safe and with him. His job is to complete the request, but the priority of all adventurers is first and foremost to survive, second for their party to survive. Next would be doing the jobs they have accepted. Only after that would be taking care of other parties. It is not a obligation for him to take care of others that signed up for this line of work and know the risks. They are not entitled to his protection in any way, that is strictly a kindness he may choose to extend. Each party has a party leader that should be making decision for their parties including whether to let him be the joint leader, he simply is acting as a group leader of a temp party, his role is just to get them to work together to do the job. They are all responsible for their own lives. And as they all are choosing to follow him if that gets them killed that was them failing to do what they signed up for, failing to make decisions and protect themselves, the moment they were clearly a hinderance and had to be protected they should have turned around, but they were greedy for the rewards and decided to leach. He is being extremely professional. He is a adventurer, not a babysitter, or a guard. His job isn't catering to entitlement.

 

[flannan]

Again, you would have a point if any of his party was killed or abandoned. But he has kept them safe and with him. His job is to complete the request, but the priority of all adventurers is first and foremost to survive, second for their party to survive. Next would be doing the jobs they have accepted. Only after that would be taking care of other parties. It is not a obligation for him to take care of others that signed up for this line of work and know the risks. They are not entitled to his protection in any way, that is strictly a kindness he may choose to extend. Each party has a party leader that should be making decision for their parties including whether to let him be the joint leader, he simply is acting as a group leader of a temp party, his role is just to get them to work together to do the job. They are all responsible for their own lives. And as they all are choosing to follow him if that gets them killed that was them failing to do what they signed up for, failing to make decisions and protect themselves, the moment they were clearly a hinderance and had to be protected they should have turned around, but they were greedy for the rewards and decided to leach. He is being extremely professional. He is a adventurer, not a babysitter, or a guard. His job isn't catering to entitlement.

He isn't "an adventurer", as much as he is "the hero chosen by The Church". I expect him to hold himself and others to higher moral standards.
Also, you sound like an American with that "entitlement". All the sane countries do not have this concept.
Finally, a leader is a babysitter. Taking care of morale and making sure everybody cooperates is the leader's job. Otherwise, he is not a leader, just a strategist.

 

[hevensdragon]

He isn't "an adventurer", as much as he is "the hero chosen by The Church". I expect him to hold himself and others to higher moral standards.
Also, you sound like an American with that "entitlement". All the sane countries do not have this concept.
Finally, a leader is a babysitter. Taking care of morale and making sure everybody cooperates is the leader's job. Otherwise, he is not a leader, just a strategist.

The heroes in this series aren't that type of hero, they are just the top adventurers. Also your just plain retarded, I have been talking about how people should take care of themselves, while you are claiming others must babysit grown ass adult, and you are calling me entitled, absolutely moronic. Bye Karen.

 

[flannan]

The heroes in this series aren't that type of hero, they are just the top adventurers. Also your just plain retarded, I have been talking about how people should take care of themselves, while you are claiming others must babysit grown ass adult, and you are calling me entitled, absolutely moronic. Bye Karen.

With any kind of power, comes responsibility. Leadership is certainly power, as is strength of an adventurer. And the glasses guy is certainly shirking that responsibility.
The part where nearly everybody in a fantasy world is uneducated and doesn't know how dungeons work or magic works is another matter entirely. But it's part of the premise.

 

[yuragiruria]

I see some ppl complaining about Shino as well for risking the lives of everyone in there but in the first place should we even be caring about these assholes who treated the mc like trash just because of his rank? other than his party members I don't see anyone even being worth worrying about lol

 

[Coldlight]

Some hero that glasses-wearing asshat is. It was bad enough that there were basically ~4 bickering factions in their group dooming any prospect of coordination, but to outright ditch everyone else and actually break up into 3 groups is beyond stupid; but what can you do when there's no single person in there who everybody will listen to?

I'm half tempted to blame whoever selected and assigned these people to group up, because there is no leader among them. But it's just as likely that this group was never organized from above, maybe the higher ups just asked for volunteers who wanted to join the subjugation and that was that.