Yuusha to Yobareta Nochi ni - Soshite Musou Otoko wa Kazoku wo Tsukuru - Ch. 51 - Don’t Lay a Hand

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Well I don't think this is what people wanted after the string of bad shit king did, but Lloyd was right to only resort to one-two combo (for now)

Terribly misguided he is, king was right that Lloyd and his family ARE a potential threat to the kingdom's safety. It IS a king's duty to assess potential danger to his citizens, after all. In his eyes, they are a group of calamity-level individuals that somehow band together in close proximity. Sadly he never really gander more than 15 minutes to see that Lloyd and his family are just a group of societal misfits and pariahs seeking solace with each other; and fully paranoid to a dumb degree.

Everything Lloyd do up to this point in response are a fair self-defense. If he do more than that, though, would only prove king's paranoia as correct.

But yea, according to raws, the fun part is still ongoing to the king.

Thing is, he was genuinely shocked and horrified when Lloyd pointed out what would have happened had he not blocked that attack. And i'd say the king is more than just some power-hungry maniac. He was completely willing to put his life on the line to kill Lloyd instead of constantly throwing more minions after him. So he must believe Lloyd is a serious threat if he's willing to take matters into his own hands and potentially die like that.

It IS a king's job to properly assess potential dangers to his people and act accordingly, after all. In that, and that aspect alone, I do agree that king done nothing wrong.

Too bad he never really assess Lloyd's family for more than a glance and properly, thus become paranoid for no reason.
 
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"Such a dangerous element cannot be left alive!"
So go pull an Aura, then.

"Why is he still alive!?"
So we can make him suffer more?

Terribly misguided he is, king was right that Lloyd and his family ARE a potential threat to the kingdom's safety.
Then they have the right to kill him, since he fully intends to kill them. You can also justify any invasion or killing with that logic. "He has a gun, so he's a potential threat to my safety, therefore I'm right to kill him."
 
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Well since he didn’t kill the king but did shove his face to the back of his skull, if the king ever shows up I just want a giant asterisk where his face used to be.
 
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Then they have the right to kill him, since he fully intends to kill them. You can also justify any invasion or killing with that logic. "He has a gun, so he's a potential threat to my safety, therefore I'm right to kill him."

In the ideal world, war would be the last choice to take. But sadly humanity are often really, really stupid. (I'll leave that at that because talking about real life circumstances of war really grind my faith on humanity, and I already have few left)

For this manga, the reason why Lloyd won't kill the king is simple. Remember Lloyd's own words in chapter 1

"I've already killed so many. That's why... I don't want any more unneccesary killing. That's all"

And I think Lloyd truly get that king's whole action was just because he is afraid of the overwhelming power, as demon king himself predicted. Plus recent events really change his meaning of life, as he change his own family in return.

Lloyd killing king here would only serve as a betrayal of what he wants. Also do remember that the current narration of kingdom's citizens(even though Lloyd are unaware) are 'Lloyd are preparing for rebellion!'. Killing the king would be the absolute worst move Lloyd could do
 
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I get how everyone has said the king shouldn't have been killed because it'd be murder and not self defense, but bruh....

The king has repeatedly proven that he's willing to sink ridiculous resources into dealing with his fears and insecurities. I'm certain all of those experiments and golems weren't cheap. The kingdom probably suffered from his wild spending.

At this point, it'd be more of a risk to the family not to kill the murderous, obsessed, and insecure manchild with an entire kingdoms resources. If not kill him, then take him and imprison him far far away where he can't lead the country anymore.
 
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Lloyd killing king here would only serve as a betrayal of what he wants. ... Killing the king would be the absolute worst move Lloyd could do
I'm not talking about his personal morals or the outcome. I'm talking about what's right to do. So my point still stands: If the king is right to judge him a threat, he is right to judge the king a threat.

And it's not the worst move he could do. If his reputation is already that low, killing the king won't change much. If anything, his name will be cleared once he doesn't act to start a rebellion afterwards.
 
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Of course. "You almost killed me, so I'll punch you and you promise not to do it again." The ultimate solution to any problem.
 
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The ultimate japanese protagonist solution you mean. Where's the NTR doujins for this manga?
 
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I'm not talking about his personal morals or the outcome. I'm talking about what's right to do. So my point still stands: If the king is right to judge him a threat, he is right to judge the king a threat.

And it's not the worst move he could do. If his reputation is already that low, killing the king won't change much. If anything, his name will be cleared once he doesn't act to start a rebellion afterwards.

You are talking about someone who understood king's intention since day 1 and fully prepared to die to do so (only recently not doing that). And regicide IS a regicide, no matter the excuse. Killing king while not doing rebellion won't clear his name. It would only prove the other point of king's narrative to its citizens.

"The hero has become a threat that surpass the demon king!"

Also remember that this is a manga created by a mangaka grew up with the cultural values where its is the norm to 'hammer the nail that sticks out'. When using our mindset, people would wish the same thing. Hek even I would wish that at least king won't pass with just one-two punch. However, when you see it with their cultural standpoint, mangaka's intention makes sense. Killing king would make his 'nail' even standing out, and it would only increase the 'hammering' amount.


Besides, as other pointed out based on peeking raws; this is just the start of 'the worst day for the king'
 
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please don't end soon please don't end soon. Have it be more family shenanigans
 
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We all know this was not satisfactory. But also, everyone else in the kingdom thinks the King was attacked by criminals.
It's better that they didn't kill him at this point. They saw the giant, and i want to believe they saw the attacks almost go to the city, so i am holding hope people with less lethal strength will punish him
 
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Is the King the actual MC? What a fucking plot armour. What happened to the mana poisoning?
 
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Besides, as other pointed out based on peeking raws; this is just the start of 'the worst day for the king'
Answering an argument with spoilers means you don't have an answer yourself, and that's besides the point that it doesn't actually answer the argument. Like the rest of the post.

When using our mindset, people would wish the same thing.
Keep your mindset to yourself. Don't assume mine.
 

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