Zatsuyou Fuyo Jutsushi ga Jibun no Saikyou ni Kizuku made - Vol. 1 Ch. 1 - The Worst Start

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Imagine that, a world where the concept of coroners isn't just something that doesn't exist. Oh boy, I wouldn't want to be in the Dragon Wings' shoes at the moment.
I love the idea of dungeon medical examiners. I kind of now want a series that follows the exploits of a dungeon ME as they analyze the corpses of the monsters brought in for sale and decides how that dictates people's advancements in the Guild.
 
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why the authors these days are ahhhh
they can't even make any decent excuse anymore to expel the mc and here this dumb story.
but i will stick to it for a while, thanks for the chapter btw.
 
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why the authors these days are ahhhh
they can't even make any decent excuse anymore to expel the mc and here this dumb story.
but i will stick to it for a while, thanks for the chapter btw.
I mean its not the best excuse but I could believe that this party would kick him out. They have a high opinion of themselves and as shown in the couple of flashbacks the MC has trouble communicating and thus has estranged himself from the party. Its like the popular kid at high school getting saved by the weird quiet kid who no one really likes in class. They can't admit to themselves that this "Loser" was better than them so it has to be "his fault" that they were knocked down and he "stole" their achievement; narcists being illogical to explain away failure as not their fault is something that does happen.

The party probably is pretty decent of a force by themselves but chose to go after a monster much powerful than the average ones they fight as B ranks. It is also seems that the main character is not a fighter but some sort of support unit which probably also would sting the pride of the leader.

Overall I'd give this party expelling a 5/10. Nothing special but it fits with the idea of a world where adventures care about their image and popularity as well as not wanting to believe a person who doesn't have a primary combatant job is better than you.
 
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Are only people in that demographic able to observe its buying patterns? Do you enjoy snide, passive-aggressive rhetoric that effectively insinuates dubious assumptions by way of questions whose range of possible answers is limited?
They are kind of the one's who determine it.
The manga makers do not care about the opinions of someone in a other country reading a translation they derive no income from. Or their feelings a out how a chapter ended.

You made a "observation" about something that you are not qualified to make an observation on.


But to let you know, this is an adaptation of web novel, which 90+% of the time means there it was first adapted to a light novel due to popularity of the web novel, and then adapted to a manga due to light novel sales. That means the story was enjoyed enough by the Japanese audience.

I know, but this is too retarded:

boss barely looks injured. https://mangadex.org/chapter/f9365592-3ba0-4725-a153-0bcc401f5f12/5
and they lost in one hit https://mangadex.org/chapter/f9365592-3ba0-4725-a153-0bcc401f5f12/7
so even though MC supposedly 'got lucky' , he can't be that much of weakling,

and most importantly, MC did save their lives
It is called cognitive dissonance, which is a very real problem with human psychology. The web novel even explicitly brings it up pretty much right after where this chapter ends.

What happened is so outside their beliefs and world view that they are unable to accept it and inserted something much closer to their beliefs that they can except.

They have hated and looked down on the MC for a while, and have to much pride in their own abilities.
 
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You made a "observation" about something that you are not qualified to make an observation on.
No, I've observed a great many manga series being cancelled.
But to let you know, this is an adaptation of web novel, which 90+% of the time means there it was first adapted to a light novel due to popularity of the web novel, and then adapted to a manga due to light novel sales.
Many of the manga that I've observed being cancelled were adaptations of web novels; others of light novels.
That means the story was enjoyed enough by the Japanese audience.
More specifically, it means that a telling of one sort was appreciated by a Japanese audience; it does not mean that a telling of a different sort will be appreciated by another Japanese audience.

I'm glad that you set aside your passive-aggressive pseudo-Socratic rhetoric and most of your snideness, but you really need to get off your high horse and reason more carefully.
 
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I know, but this is too retarded:

boss barely looks injured. https://mangadex.org/chapter/f9365592-3ba0-4725-a153-0bcc401f5f12/5
and they lost in one hit https://mangadex.org/chapter/f9365592-3ba0-4725-a153-0bcc401f5f12/7
so even though MC supposedly 'got lucky' , he can't be that much of weakling,

and most importantly, MC did save their lives
There are people that has been told since child that they are the best of the best. If it happens to be untrue (wich is most of the times) the shock for them is like seeing something unnatural, all their beliefs and common sense is dropped and they usually raect denying the reality because it conflicts with their very meaning of life. This is the common setting of otome villainesses, politicians and lately more and more people IRL.
 

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There are people that has been told since child that they are the best of the best.
where did this come from? was this in the novel? they were ranked below A before they fought this boss, above average, but doesn't sound like best of the best to me.

If it happens to be untrue (wich is most of the times) the shock for them is like seeing something unnatural, all their beliefs and common sense is dropped and they usually raect denying the reality because it conflicts with their very meaning of life.
It is called cognitive dissonance, which is a very real problem with human psychology....
...Humans are not rational animals.
cognitive dissonance/denying reality/humans not being rational is enough to explain them thinking they contributed more than they actually did in the fight (and MC contributing less), but this level of insanity is way beyond that:

MC wasn't scum/arrogant , the party succeeded in beating boss and will be rewarded well for it, so MC wasn't 'at fault' in any way.

so my conclusion is :
one of them being super twisted like this might be plausible, but all three of them makes this too ridiculous

and we're truly at a point, that some authors aren't even bothering to have a reason for excessive MC bullying / expelling MC from party now
 
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we're truly at a point, that some authors aren't even bothering to have a reason for excessive MC bullying / expelling MC from party now
The publishers throw lots of stuff at the wall, and see what sticks. Most of it doesn't; but, other than very superficially, the publishers, editors, and writers seem not to analyze what differentiates the successes from the failures.
 
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is MC literally cursed to be hated or something ? because this is the stupidest 'expelled from party' premise I've ever read:

MC saved everyone's lives by soloing boss , and they expel him
Yeah was the most extreme version I’ve seen to date
 
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MC only gave the last blow, so he basically robbed others of the kill. Also, his buffs and support was weak, that's why they failed, not because of their own shortcomings - it's obvious because MC is a support and weaker than all others. So basically he pulled some stunt or set up this sequence of events to try and benefit off others. Even if he gets paid below market rate, that's still all his fault and he can't be trusted. That's the reasonable explanation for them.

Humans are not rational animals. Some are abusive because of the joy the others' suffering brings them, some get very angry and even hurt when people they see as beneath them seemingly outperform them. There's all sorts of weird quirks that are detrimental but ingrained in behavior/thought.
No, I would agree with cgr here. If you are incapacitated by monster that had little visible damage, and you wake up ALIVE, because the last man standing was able to kill it, the position of being in a life-or-death situation is "oh my god I'm alive", and gratitude. This is a repeatedly shown in the real world with natural disasters and war. The first thoughts by the other party members would not be "oh, he stole our kill", but "we were THIS close to becoming a carnivore's snack, thank god the last guy did something that kept us alive" - especially after seeing the state of said monster before and after being knocked out. None of this is based on "rational thought", but repeated observations of most animals in times of crisis. We have seen tame and wild felines, canines, birds, equus and apes exhibit what would be deemed "friendly" behavior to their rescuer after rescue from grave injury or situations where the animal is in a state of a life-threatening crisis. Humans are no exception.

In reality, what you are looking at is a cheap story hook that is at play. The writer is following the template - make a quick script that gets the protagonist alone and onto the "hero's journey" but skip the whole part about the growth of character strength. The method to start the story in this case is "I was kicked out by people who think I'm worthless!"
It makes a short series and doesn't require much thought, or a series that copies a lot of scenarios that take little to no effort for the main character to resolve (i.e. appealing the hero's triumph gratification). But, it pays the bills, and you can spend more time on the artwork than on the plot.

So what differentiates good from bad writing in this format?
I can't answer that question for you. But I can answer it for myself:
The main character's struggle with themself. The incremental changes of their own personality. The method they realize their own worth. How and who they transform into for the better, or - if you want to go the tragedy route - for the worse.
 
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I have to agree with the previous party, laughing like that without any reason is pretty fucking creepy.
 
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This could actaully be a an ego hurt case. an asshole pats leader keeping him around as amusement. But once he saved them, it caused him to get his ego bruised and got angery.
 
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This is dumb it gets old when the MC is a beta herbivore bitch with no spin like why do they do this in Asian comics is this common enough among their “men” to be relatable
 

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