Zenbu Kowashite Jigoku de Aishite - Vol. 2 Ch. 6 - Stagnant Quagmire

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Naoi feel so hard and so fast it's unreal. Just "Yeah the person I like is into blood and bruises on my face so it's cool". 2nd fiddle already busting out the "I like you" she must feel super threatened but at least it's not outta nowhere it was pretty obvious from volume 1.
The way I see it, it's more like Naoi giving the other gal a look into the abyss. And it worked because it forced her to act (foolishly)
 
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I actually went back and ordered most of the back issues of Yurihime this series has been in so far, just to help support and just have it. Maybe someday I’ll learn Japanese well enough to read them on my own, but until then thank you so much for the TL!
 
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gawd fuuuuuk whyd i discover this so early i so fkn wish i could just binge like 40 chapters of this
 
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Kokoro is just an annoying bitch. She is just as shit as Kurumi mother and Naomi father
 
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Yeah, honestly even if someone catches on that someone was troubled they frequently wouldn't immediately jump to the parents being a factor. And socially, kids are taught to seek out an adult authority figure, so the idea that said authority could be part of the problem doesn't always come to mind for a lot of people.
It's especially the case with mothers because there tends to be a whole cultural thing with them, like "a mother's love is the only love that's unconditional," "your mother will always be on your side," "your mother gave you the gift of life and always does her best to support you through it," etc.

Which, naturally, are ideas bad faith actors more or less consciously take advantage of. An example in this story is the use of self punishment to control our protagonist while portraying herself as "the suffering mother who only wants to support you" to avoid negative repercussions for her behavior.

Kokoro may or may not have understood the dynamic if explained to her in very specific terms (which kids with abusive parents tend to not want to draw attention to the parents' flaws because ultimately this person still their parent), but lots of people will interpret this through the troubled child/suffering mother lens without very clear evidence to the contrary.

I would like to say adults should know better than Kokoro and have learned to recognize these patterns by the time they're older, but of course they often don't know better and that is part of why abusive parents can get away with a lot of stuff the people around them theoretically wouldn't be okay with yet end up abetting.
 
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I am trying my hardest to take this story seriously, but the characters are all written in such an unrealistic cartoonish way that its really difficult. Think this is where i jump off this manga
 
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mommmmmy for sure.


but dam,,, thank u sooo much for the translation asdfghjkl; this is gettin soooo spicy and im here for it.
 
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Kokoro is just an annoying bitch. She is just as shit as Kurumi mother and Naomi father
You're seriously comparing a kid who was worried for her friend and made a mistake trying to help to the actual abusers???

Kokoro is annoying, but she only comes across that way because know everything that is happening bts. We know Kurumi put up a great facade at school and never told her friend what was going on at home so of course Kokoro is gonna think Kurumi is overreacting about how her mom would react. Even Naoi thought Kurumi had the perfect home life. Once Kokoro saw what ended up happening after the eraser incident, she got a slightly clearer idea of Kurumi's relationship with her mom.

Kokoro is guilty of constantly putting Kurumi on a pedestal so she comes to wrong conclusions about Kurumi's actions and yeah Kokoro did something that could have made the situation turn out much, much worse than what ended up happening, but you cannot compare the actions of a naive child to those of actual abusive adults.
 
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Big "I can fix her" moment. Nice. I'm glad the friend was able to confess this soon, though it might just be too late anyway.
Thanks for the chapter!
 
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Well, if this turns out so toxic it becomes wholesome and healing in some twisted kind of way, giving us a happy end, i'm all for it. But if the girls start puking at each other and one strangling the other, then carrying her through some snowstorm, just to collapse and to die next to her "lovers" corpse, then i'm not all that much for it.
Oh god you just reminded me of that manga
 
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I am trying my hardest to take this story seriously, but the characters are all written in such an unrealistic cartoonish way that its really difficult. Think this is where i jump off this manga
imo the unrealistically edgy dialogue also makes it hard to take it seriously, which is surprising considering this author's previous works including rebellious characters like these. Is this supposed to be self-aware kitsch? Whatever, less chuuni dialogue and more hints for reader speculation could have been better storytelling.

Plus, the most cartoonish action so far, the shoplifting attempt, could also have been made convincing in several ways - like her wanting to steal something she couldn't buy because of her mother's stupid restrictions? Literally any simple backstory would have been fine.
 
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imo the unrealistically edgy dialogue also makes it hard to take it seriously, which is surprising considering this author's previous works including rebellious characters like these. Is this supposed to be self-aware kitsch? Whatever, less chuuni dialogue and more hints for reader speculation could have been better storytelling.

Plus, the most cartoonish action so far, the shoplifting attempt, could also have been made convincing in several ways - like her wanting to steal something she couldn't buy because of her mother's stupid restrictions? Literally any simple backstory would have been fine.
Wanting to steal the eraser, even though she could have bought it (and did), wasn't because she wanted something and was willing to resort to stealing, but because she feels burdened by the facade of perfection and wished she could do something 'bad' to be free of it for even a moment. The fact that she didn't actually need to do it is the point.

This also shows her mindset at the time - she's only able to even consider doing something extremely mild, stealing something almost worthless, and then chickens out. Even though she has this desire, she is unwilling to actually take steps to change her life, which is why Naoi must act as the instigator.

The dialogue is over the top and I think it's fun personally. It's one of those hammy stories that either you like or you don't. Naoi in particular is extremely unrealistic and no one would act like that in real life, but that doesn't make her a bad character in and of itself, as realism is not always the point of fiction. Certainly a valid reason not to enjoy the series, but others of us are enjoying it precisely due to how over the top it can be.
 

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