Zombie no Afureta Sekai Ore Dake ga Osowarenai - Ch. 40 - Kenou Base

[Junomano]

I dunno. Wouldn't smart military people actually do checkups on random people they find before letting them into their base?

They may be smart zombies but they are still zombies. They have no heart beat and they produce no body heat of their own. The only reason why Tokiko was able to pass was because Takemura vouched for her as part of an invited guest envoy.

what if someone let that zombie guy in the same way mc made them not focus on her?

 

[DeadToReal]

what if someone let that zombie guy in the same way mc made them not focus on her?

You mean someone else that was invited bringing along a random zombie that can not speak? Unless they evolved these last 2 years to actually speak and act like humans, I don't see it.

 

[Junomano]

You mean someone else that was invited bringing along a random zombie that can not speak? Unless they evolved these last 2 years to actually speak and act like humans, I don't see it.

yup, unless they pass of as mute i also don't see it

 

[EmotionalDamage1]

still funny to me that this is getting an anime.

IT'S GETTING AN ANIME?????????

 

[Pyras]

Come on, JSDF, you are so stupid that you would let random ppl in without actually checking them at all ?
No skin contact to see if they are actually warm, or have a heartbeat (can even check at the wrist) ?

 

[Floou]

What the hell this wasn't in the original vn... Seems like the manga is planning to make a proper ending or something?

 

[albirew]

TOKIKO, STOP LOOKING AT THE CAMERAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!
(PS to french ppl: oui, c'est un meme Linksthesun)

 

[kohakusan]

Why would a BASIN be easy to defend? You're on a low ground surrounded by higher in almost all directions... That's terrrible even if it's not possible to move from high to low like a big drop cliff, it's still very bad.

 

[captain_crunch]

A basin is dangerous because the intelligent zombies could fill it with milk like a cereal bowl, and all the humans would transform into corn flakes.

Is mc still infusing his zombie neighbor with doses of semen?

 

[Amenohi]

Does Tokiko eat anything besides the MC's body fluids? Everyone needs to eat. All the other zombies are trying to eat people. Tokiko's the only one we haven't seen attacking people.

 

[zetsuravez]

I keep reading about this story not included in vn or ln... Where does the story originally end?...

 

[reylee]

Why would a BASIN be easy to defend? You're on a low ground surrounded by higher in almost all directions... That's terrrible even if it's not possible to move from high to low like a big drop cliff, it's still very bad.

Btw as someone who had done military service in my country, one of the military stories I heard from the veterans and seniors was how a commander lost badly during a training wargame exercise thinking moving to higher grounds is good for doing a defensive hold. They moved up to a site up a mountain that was indeed difficult to assault. But it had no food and water source. The opposing side did not need to storm them, just set up a siege and waited. His camp basically got starved out and slowly whittled down whenever troops tried to forage outside of the camp. They surrendered and forced to march in undies down in shame.

Conversely a basin might be more ideal than you'd think, if you aren't experienced in high level military planning.

 

[quser]

still funny to me that this is getting an anime.

They are going to cut those parts, aren't they?

 

[kohakusan]

Btw as someone who had done military service in my country, one of the military stories I heard from the veterans and seniors was how a commander lost badly during a training wargame exercise thinking moving to higher grounds is good for doing a defensive hold. They moved up to a site up a mountain that was indeed difficult to assault. But it had no food and water source. The opposing side did not need to storm them, just set up a siege and waited. His camp basically got starved out and slowly whittled down whenever troops tried to forage outside of the camp. They surrendered and forced to march in undies down in shame.

Conversely a basin might be more ideal than you'd think, if you aren't experienced in high level military planning.

I understand but then it's about resources not the actual topography, no one would choose a location based ONLY on that, there are multiple factors like you said. It's just weird they say only "oh we're going to this basin because it's great to defend" and stops there. Idk it's just odd for me, of course depends on the actual topography differences between the locations but I can't see many scenarios a basin could be better than a higher ground, in general, not for specific situations/enemies.

 

[reylee]

I understand but then it's about resources not the actual topography, no one would choose a location based ONLY on that, there are multiple factors like you said. It's just weird they say only "oh we're going to this basin because it's great to defend" and stops there. Idk it's just odd for me, of course depends on the actual topography differences between the locations but I can't see many scenarios a basin could be better than a higher ground, in general, not for specific situations/enemies.

High ground cannot be (re)supplied easily. Soil and air is thinner, erosion can be a real concern, water runs off high ground so sourcing water is always harder. Building a base can be tough if material like wood isn't available up there (mountains can be wooded or it can be barren), or if the terrain makes it hard to log compared to on lower flat ground. And camping on high ground is absolutely worse. It takes many years and a lot of manpower to make a truly functional base on high ground. Fact is, you won't find many modern military bases on high ground. Not even many from industrial era. These survivors won't have the luxury of time and manpower to build and many of them are civvies women and children. And it wouldn't solve the fundamental problem of resupplying. History is filled with cases of high ground forts/castles being sieged until they fall from lack of supplies. Heck even forts/castles/cities on low ground have been sieged until they fall from lack of supplies. If you've never been in the military before, I suggest you do not assume that high ground is better. That's like a common misconception, as well as theory from bygone eras long ago, that fiction helped reinforced.

As for a basin, the easier access points will be limited by nature, and there will be watershed areas where water gather so water supply should not be an issue, which is pretty important for any base. There are probably many other advantages as well but I'm not really an expert on the topic as I was never a high level officer nor involved in military planning. But that anecdote of the commander losing by naively choosing a high ground to set base, was shared by the veterans with us back then precisely to break the common misconception that high ground is supposedly better. I also used to unquestioningly think high ground is always better.

 

[kohakusan]

High ground cannot be (re)supplied easily. Soil and air is thinner, erosion can be a real concern, water runs off high ground so sourcing water is always harder. Building a base can be tough if material like wood isn't available up there (mountains can be wooded or it can be barren), or if the terrain makes it hard to log compared to on lower flat ground. And camping on high ground is absolutely worse. It takes many years and a lot of manpower to make a truly functional base on high ground. Fact is, you won't find many modern military bases on high ground. Not even many from industrial era. These survivors won't have the luxury of time and manpower to build and many of them are civvies women and children. And it wouldn't solve the fundamental problem of resupplying. History is filled with cases of high ground forts/castles being sieged until they fall from lack of supplies. Heck even forts/castles/cities on low ground have been sieged until they fall from lack of supplies. If you've never been in the military before, I suggest you do not assume that high ground is better. That's like a common misconception, as well as theory from bygone eras long ago, that fiction helped reinforced.

As for a basin, the easier access points will be limited by nature, and there will be watershed areas where water gather so water supply should not be an issue, which is pretty important for any base. There are probably many other advantages as well but I'm not really an expert on the topic as I was never a high level officer nor involved in military planning. But that anecdote of the commander losing by naively choosing a high ground to set base, was shared by the veterans with us back then precisely to break the common misconception that high ground is supposedly better. I also used to unquestioningly think high ground is always better.

That's a great insight, thanks

 

[SKREAD]

The wok? Mc can telepathycly talk to the zombie girl now?