Seventh - Vol. 1 Ch. 3.1 - Former-Fiancee Novem (part1)

[MangaDex]

 

[Wolvenworks]

Mmmm i wonder what a stubborn steak tastes like…

 

[ElectroSlam]

I share the same sentiments as the people talking in his head I’m extremely envious as well, with the mc having someone like that.😂

 

[PLaci1982]

 

[Szaal]

Ancestors doing the hardwork yapping our feelings directly to MC's head.

 

[Giga]

And your avatar fits my mental response to every instance of this FAR-too-common story development.

Someone, please spoil just this for me: is this one of those manga where the MC is faced from the start with a very obvious best girl and responds to her good will only with disdain for no other apparent reason than because he's written by a Japanese author following marching orders, or will this MC respond properly to this girl's day-one loyalty?

You'd think that being ostracized and disowned for a psychopathic sibling--and then finally left to become fodder for that sibling's sword--by even his own family (for as long as it's been going on, no less) would have him scrambling for any honest support.

Beautiful girl permanently gives up her nobility to follow MC into exile, after having faithfully followed him affectionately since childhood? "Why are you following me?? Go home!"

 

[Doedoel]

More like, "What the fuch are they thinking?!"

 

[Rafaelrgm]

And your avatar fits my mental response to every instance of this FAR-too-common story development.

Someone, please spoil just this for me: is this one of those manga where the MC is faced from the start with a very obvious best girl and responds to good will only with disdain for no other apparent reason than because he's written by a Japanese author following marching orders, or will this MC respond properly to this girl's day-one loyalty?

You'd think that being ostracized and disowned for a psychopathic sibling--and then finally left to become fodder for that sibling's sword--by even his own family (for as long as it's been going on, no less) would have him scrambling for any honest support.

Beautiful girl permanently gives up her nobility to follow MC into exile, after having faithfully followed him affectionately since childhood? "Why are you following me?? Go home!"

Answering your question. If it follows the same plot as the WN,

Spoiler: then

then the MC actually starts oblivious, but later it's just him playing dumb. This is basically a harem story that very much preaches against harems.

Spoiler: Later on

He gets stuck in a situation where basically a lot of the girls of his party love him but hate each other. So if he sleeeps with someone, it becames a literal blood bath.
He reveals that when he finally gets to go on a trip abroad with just his bros. And he can't even go to brothels since one of the girls has all the prostitues around their main base in her pockets. So in this trip it's finally his chance to let loose.

 

[Giga]

Answering your question. If it follows the same plot as the WN,

Spoiler: then

then the MC actually starts oblivious, but later it's just him playing dumb. This is basically a harem story that very much preaches against harems.

Spoiler: Later on

He gets stuck in a situation where basically a lot of the girls of his party love him but hate each other. So if he sleeeps with someone, it becames a literal blood bath.
He reveals that when he finally gets to go on a trip abroad with just his bros. And he can't even go to brothels since one of the girls has all the prostitues around their main base in her pockets. So in this trip it's finally his chance to let loose.

Spoiler

So, in other words, this is the kind of "harem" in which the MC avoids women for fear of their wrath against each other and him? Even worse, Novem was there before them all; why worry about the rest? Why even go for any of them in the first place, if that's what's going to happen? Sounds like yet another installment of I'm Afraid of Busty Women, just written by an author who thinks he's slick.

Spoil me on something else, then, since this author seems to be inclined to follow those aforementioned popular marching orders: what happens with Novem? Does the MC at least acknowledge her as the main girl? I probably shouldn't expect much if he was, as you said, hoping for a chance to cut loose--from her.

 

[Rafaelrgm]

Spoiler

So, in other words, this is the kind of "harem" in which the MC avoids women for fear of their wrath against each other and him? Even worse, Novem was there before them all; why worry about the rest? Why even go for any of them in the first place, if that's what's going to happen? Sounds like yet another installment of I'm Afraid of Busty Women, just written by an author who thinks he's slick.

Spoil me on something else, then, since this author seems to be inclined to follow those aforementioned popular marching orders: what happens with Novem? Does the MC at least acknowledge her as the main girl? I probably shouldn't expect much if he was, as you said, hoping for a chance to cut loose--from her.

Spoiler: spoiler

Does the MC at least acknowledge her as the main girl?

Short answer, yes.

, this is the kind of "harem" in which the MC avoids women for fear of their wrath against each other and him?

It's not that he avoids women, he avoids sex. He is pretty much against harems, but not blind too the fact that he stuck with it. So he does makes effort in the relationship.

Novem was there before them all; why worry about the rest? Why even go for any of them in the first place

He doesn't.

Spoiler: spoiler

Novem does. Novem does a lot of weird shit that he tries to ignore because he loves her, until it can't be ignored anymore.

This series hides a lot of hints behind the suspension of disbelief of the readers. So a lot of weird behaviours in the real world that are usually ignored by readers in japanese media,are still weird in the world of this story.

 

[Giga]

Spoiler: spoiler

Short answer, yes.

It's not that he avoids women, he avoids sex. He is pretty much against harems, but not blind too the fact that he stuck with it. So he does makes effort in the relationship.

He doesn't.

Spoiler: spoiler

Novem does. Novem does a lot of weird shit that he tries to ignore because he loves her, until it can't be ignored anymore.

This series hides a lot of hints behind the suspension of disbelief of the readers. So a lot of weird behaviours in the real world that are usually ignored by readers in japanese media,are still werid in the world of this story.

Wow. This is probably the first time I've had someone spoil me and thereby had my disdain turned 180° (back) into interest. Thanks for the info.

 

[Yengozi]

Spoiler: spoiler

Short answer, yes.

It's not that he avoids women, he avoids sex. He is pretty much against harems, but not blind too the fact that he stuck with it. So he does makes effort in the relationship.

He doesn't.

Spoiler: spoiler

Novem does. Novem does a lot of weird shit that he tries to ignore because he loves her, until it can't be ignored anymore.

This series hides a lot of hints behind the suspension of disbelief of the readers. So a lot of weird behaviours in the real world that are usually ignored by readers in japanese media,are still weird in the world of this story.

So, with the way things are going, will it have a harem ending? And when you say he makes effort in the relationship are you referring to with his harem or just Novem? Sorry, I just really like harems since I'm a bit of a depressed loner.

 

[Rafaelrgm]

So, with the way things are going, will it have a harem ending? And when you say he makes effort in the relationship are you referring to with his harem or just Novem? Sorry, I just really like harems since I'm a bit of a depressed loner.

Spoiler: Spoiler

1) Yes.
2) Everyone. but I don't know if the manga will show it because most of it are the kind of things manga adaptations tend to cut.

3) No jugdement here.

 

[Yengozi]

Spoiler: Spoiler

1) Yes.
2) Everyone. but I don't know if the manga will show it because most of it are the kind of things manga adaptations tend to cut.

3) No jugdement here.

Thank you. I appreciate the responses and will continue to follow this series.

 

[DarkStorm98]

So, it does seem rather evident that Lyle is pushing Novem away to spare her the difficulties of siding with a disgraced noble

He does literally think kindly of her, both in the present and flashbacks he seems to feel sorry for her being stuck with him rather than actually disliking her

The harem idea probably isn't honest either (though judging by this works tags, it's coming, I can only hope it's for real and not just given lip-service, lmfao), he's just trying to discourage her for her own good

Which, I can get from a. . . good-natured point of view. He doesn't want to let her go blindly into a difficult situation that he's been put in. But also: He probably should be taking all the help he can get, judging by him being out of his depth just ordering food.

 

[AnimuVsMango]

I like the little "huh?" using Lyle's mouth as a speech bubble, that's cute.

So I'm assuming the inn has some sort of partnership with the pub? Either an above-water one (they send customers to each other) or an under-the-table one (they rob people's rooms when they go to the pub).

DAMN she looks good in that fanart

 

[ThatRabidPotato]

And your avatar fits my mental response to every instance of this FAR-too-common story development.

Someone, please spoil just this for me: is this one of those manga where the MC is faced from the start with a very obvious best girl and responds to her good will only with disdain for no other apparent reason than because he's written by a Japanese author following marching orders, or will this MC respond properly to this girl's day-one loyalty?

You'd think that being ostracized and disowned for a psychopathic sibling--and then finally left to become fodder for that sibling's sword--by even his own family (for as long as it's been going on, no less) would have him scrambling for any honest support.

Beautiful girl permanently gives up her nobility to follow MC into exile, after having faithfully followed him affectionately since childhood? "Why are you following me?? Go home!"

I don't see any indication that she's giving up her nobility. Her father fully supports this.
Honestly, her dad would WANT her to stick with him. He wants her married to Lyle and Lyle taking the seat of his house. Lyle getting disinherited is very bad for the Fuchs politically.

 

[ThatRabidPotato]

Answering your question. If it follows the same plot as the WN,

Spoiler: then

then the MC actually starts oblivious, but later it's just him playing dumb. This is basically a harem story that very much preaches against harems.

Spoiler: Later on

He gets stuck in a situation where basically a lot of the girls of his party love him but hate each other. So if he sleeeps with someone, it becames a literal blood bath.
He reveals that when he finally gets to go on a trip abroad with just his bros. And he can't even go to brothels since one of the girls has all the prostitues around their main base in her pockets. So in this trip it's finally his chance to let loose.

Holy shit an actual realistic harem

 

[Giga]

I don't see any indication that she's giving up her nobility. Her father fully supports this.
Honestly, her dad would WANT her to stick with him. He wants her married to Lyle and Lyle taking the seat of his house. Lyle getting disinherited is very bad for the Fuchs politically.

There are at least two parts of aristocracy as a system--or "nobility", for simplicity's sake: consanguinity (blood relation) and political power. Politics is the practice of governing (controlling, really) a societal group--and that control is effected by influence. For Novem to associate with Lyle--who has not only been disowned by his family, but has been so disowned in disgrace--would mean a smear on Novem's face by mere association. That smear means loss of prestige, that loss of prestige means loss of influence, and that in turn means loss of power.

Loss of power is effective loss of nobility, even if she's a noble by birth. It's the aristocratic game.

Lyle asks Novem what'll happen to her house if she follows him. Why? Because she's effectively abandoning her noble position to follow someone without one; even Novem states that her brother will be the successor--that is because she would, as Lyle himself was also implying, not an option. Lyle's at best a nobody commoner now--and worse than that to people in the know--and loyal Novem is following him into that world.