NTREVENGE - Ch. 41

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Isn’t it just more him just benefiting from having a “girlfriend” he didn’t have to mind break, not like he’s doing it in front of the brother, tho if anything it’s also a punishment to the other girls bc I don’t think he’s gone down on any of them versus them giving him oral

This is just porn with plot at this point but it’s not like he was uninvolved/also a bully victim so it’s more revenge for himself as opposed to asking Asmodeus to “protect her” not that we know if she’d help lol

Plot? Not much of one.

 

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Aw man, please don't do the sister bad. She's the best girl hands down please dont make this even worse. I will fr drop if they dont get together.

Asuka doesn't deserve this and Shouiji feels sorry for her that he's doing this to her. She's also a very pretty girl with better breasts that the normally-unrealistic ones you see all over.

 

[Remy88Lebeau]

Wait, I think I may be confused, was the girl the demon girl was talking to in ch 39 the childhood friend or not?

The girls look the same to me in this story so I think I may have gotten wrong who that girl was.

That was the girl that was being raped in Ch2 by “playboy” bully

 

[Remy88Lebeau]

Miku was kidnapped, she was almost killed from dehydration first, then by physical beating, before she devoted herself fully to MC and offered him sexual services to earn better treatment from him. She won him over and became the Warden of the two other girls at the start, turning into quite the sadistic Warden and indispensable underling for MC from then on.

Why did MC kidnap Miku?
https://mangadex.org/chapter/ac03fdf5-f8c2-4b55-b67c-a0b8cd3180a8/3
MC stepped in to stop Miku from being bullied by the two girls, and while it worked, she still pretended they weren't bullying her and left with them. The two girls hated MC for stopping their fun, so they had Miku write a note for MC to meet her in an empty chemistry classroom.

There, she would remove her tops and bra, place his hand on her naked breast, then make the two of them fall over with MC on all fours over her half-naked body. This is when the bullies would barge in, take photos of MC in that position, and threaten to report him for SA against Miku if he didn't agree to become their plaything.

Miku got kidnapped because he hated her for having done that to him after he had done nothing but try and save her from being bullied.

Miku wasn’t kidnapped she went along with MC.

The first three days nine of the girls were given food or water. She became dehydrated because MaskBully kept stealing her water bottle. She was also beaten by MaskBully to get Mikey’s water and because of anger/embarrassment (mouth to mouth water)

She didn’t win MC over because ALL of that her doing sexual favors, her being the one to wear the warden outfit etc etc was all part of Asmode’s plan.

You can say he didn’t help Miku out quicker because of what she did to MC in the past but I would question that because it would have interfered with Asmode’s plan

 

[Remy88Lebeau]

Man, because of you, I had to re-read this manga. Go read chapter 2 and chapter 16 and tell me if you still think she was forcefully kidnapped.

Did you catch on to how Asmode kept changing the subject when MC was going to ask Asmode questions or think about helping CF? Or how Asmode would do the “to get your goal you need to follow my plan”?

I’m at Ch11 seeing MC’s thoughts he is having around Asmode how she hasn’t let known that she could read his thoughts.

 

[Astra_Starwalker]

Miku wasn’t kidnapped she went along with MC.

The first three days nine of the girls were given food or water. She became dehydrated because MaskBully kept stealing her water bottle. She was also beaten by MaskBully to get Mikey’s water and because of anger/embarrassment (mouth to mouth water)

She didn’t win MC over because ALL of that her doing sexual favors, her being the one to wear the warden outfit etc etc was all part of Asmode’s plan.

You can say he didn’t help Miku out quicker because of what she did to MC in the past but I would question that because it would have interfered with Asmode’s plan

You're wrong, Remy. Miku neither knew about, nor agreed to, his plans for kidnapping the two other girls.
All he he told Miku after asking if she wanted revenge and not getting a reply from her was "expect a demon girl." or something.

If you actually read the comic and her thoughts especially, you'll understand that she was kidnapped by MC.

She also completely devoted herself to MC and provided sexual services before Asmode gave MC suggestions, it was Miku's sudden and complete devotion that gave Asmode the idea of putting Miku in a role of power and control over the two other girls.
Asmode may have come to that idea at some point if Miku hadn't completely devoted herself to MC as she did, but it would have taken far longer, and would have dragged things out a lot.

 

[Remy88Lebeau]

You're wrong, Remy. Miku neither knew about, nor agreed to, his plans for kidnapping the two other girls.
All he he told Miku after asking if she wanted revenge and not getting a reply from her was "expect a demon girl." or something.

If you actually read the comic and her thoughts especially, you'll understand that she was kidnapped by MC.

She also completely devoted herself to MC and provided sexual services before Asmode gave MC suggestions, it was Miku's sudden and complete devotion that gave Asmode the idea of putting Miku in a role of power and control over the two other girls.
Asmode may have come to that idea at some point if Miku hadn't completely devoted herself to MC as she did, but it would have taken far longer, and would have dragged things out a lot.

I read it and re-read it. Especially Miku’s thought bubbles. The most you can say is that it is ambiguous if she knew about the plan but not how severe it was going to be. At worst he never told her how he was going to help her get her revenge leading to her thinking MC is punishing her along with them.

From what I have read Miku is thinking why she got into this, can she really have her revenge, getting punished for what she did to MC, and buying into livestock talk.

You’re wrong about Asmode. Aode knew how Miku would react, she was the one that had the outfit and chair already picked out.

I mean in Ch9 sex favor started with bj AFTER we are shown/told MC is following detailed plan made by Asmode, Ch10 chair & uniform given to room, Ch11 Asmode talks about the chair & uniform.

 

[Astra_Starwalker]

I read it and re-read it. Especially Miku’s thought bubbles. The most you can say is that it is ambiguous if she knew about the plan but not how severe it was going to be. At worst he never told her how he was going to help her get her revenge leading to her thinking MC is punishing her along with them.

From what I have read Miku is thinking why she got into this, can she really have her revenge, getting punished for what she did to MC, and buying into livestock talk.

You’re wrong about Asmode. Aode knew how Miku would react, she was the one that had the outfit and chair already picked out.
I mean in Ch9 sex favor started with bj AFTER we are shown/told MC is following detailed plan made by Asmode, Ch10 chair & uniform given to room, Ch11 Asmode talks about the chair & uniform.

Miku did not know what MC planned, trying to claim otherwise is pointless, as all her own thoughts go against the idea that she was in on the plan from the start.

Alright, I'll change my previous comment slightly, then.
Miku served MC to get better treatment before Asmode's plan was enacted, and was already devoted to him before she was given the outfit, the chair, and the role. Those things only changed her for the better of Asmode's plan, and served to make Miku even more devote to him.

 

[Remy88Lebeau]

Miku did not know what MC planned, trying to claim otherwise is pointless, as all her own thoughts go against the idea that she was in on the plan from the start.

Alright, I'll change my previous comment slightly, then.
Miku served MC to get better treatment before Asmode's plan was enacted, and was already devoted to him before she was given the outfit, the chair, and the role. Those things only changed her for the better of Asmode's plan, and served to make Miku even more devote to him.

It was not before Asmode’s plan was enacted; it was AFTER.

 

[Astra_Starwalker]

It was not before Asmode’s plan was enacted; it was AFTER.

Yes, before, as in, BEFORE.

 

[Remy88Lebeau]

Yes, before, as in, BEFORE.

When do you think Asmode’s plan was enacted?

 

[Astra_Starwalker]

When do you think Asmode’s plan was enacted?

Miku sexually servicing and devoting herself to MC is what prompted Asmode to shift from letting MC do everything to taking a hands-on approach and tell him what to do. Before that, it was all MC using his newfound powers and Miku figuring she needed to devote herself and show loyalty to MC to be treated better.

 

[Remy88Lebeau]

Miku sexually servicing and devoting herself to MC is what prompted Asmode to shift from letting MC do everything to taking a hands-on approach and tell him what to do. Before that, it was all MC using his newfound powers and Miku figuring she needed to devote herself and show loyalty to MC to be treated better.

I disagree. Asmode planned everything from the moment she chose MC. I am in the middle of getting pics of the story for the Hold Cell Arc showing this.

 

[Astra_Starwalker]

I disagree. Asmode planned everything from the moment she chose MC. I am in the middle of getting pics of the story for the Hold Cell Arc showing this.

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So you are saying Asmode is a God, and has the ability to control anyone and everyone down to the most inconsequential action each person takes? You are saying that Asmode knew MC would kidnap a girl that technically was not even part of the gang of bullies, and that he would treat her no better than the two female bullies? You are saying that Asmode knew Miku would, by her own will, start sexually servicing MC without being prompted, asked, or ordered to do so, because Asmode made MC kidnap Miku along with the two female bullies, and had Miku start sexually servicing MC?

 

[Remy88Lebeau]

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So you are saying Asmode is a God, and has the ability to control anyone and everyone down to the most inconsequential action each person takes? You are saying that Asmode knew MC would kidnap a girl that technically was not even part of the gang of bullies, and that he would treat her no better than the two female bullies? You are saying that Asmode knew Miku would, by her own will, start sexually servicing MC without being prompted, asked, or ordered to do so, because Asmode made MC kidnap Miku along with the two female bullies, and had Miku start sexually servicing MC?

I am not saying Asmode is a God or can control a person down to the minute detail. She is doing things based on human ego and human personalities. Asmodeus read MC’s mind and knew all the parties involved and what happened through reading MC’s mind.

She knew what they would do based on the human ego after being deprived of food and water for three days.

Yes she knew what Miku would do based on what Miku was forced to do because of the bullies (thanks to MC’s memories, Miku’s personality, the personality of those bullies with her and what those personalities would do in a food deprived situation where they are forced to depend solely on MC for anything. The only things they had to offer MC in exchange to get better treatment/food in the holding cell are their bodies.

 

[Astra_Starwalker]

I am not saying Asmode is a God or can control a person down to the minute detail. She is doing things based on human ego and human personalities. Asmodeus read MC’s mind and knew all the parties involved and what happened through reading MC’s mind.

She knew what they would do based on the human ego after being deprived of food and water for three days.

Yes she knew what Miku would do based on what Miku was forced to do because of the bullies (thanks to MC’s memories, Miku’s personality, the personality of those bullies with her and what those personalities would do in a food deprived situation where they are forced to depend solely on MC for anything. The only things they had to offer MC in exchange to get better treatment/food in the holding cell are their bodies.

Asmodeus chose MC because she suspected he was very likely to become highly suitable for the role she gave him, and told him to do what he wanted with his new powers in punishing those that had done him wrong, then let him steer the wheel without back-seat driving.

Asmodeus didn't tell him who to kidnap or who not to kidnap, because that would not be giving him full control, so the three girls he kidnapped were kidnapped entirely by his own will and doing, Asmodeus wasn't involved in this beyond, perhaps, teaching him how to control the room creation power before the kidnapping happened, but nothing else than that.

After the kidnappings, the only time Asmodeus chimed in was to remind MC that he needed to provide food and water to the prisoners, otherwise they would die, but this was only done because she figured he had thought movie logic was real logic, in which people could survive without food and water for an entire week straight. Then it was still MC behind the steering wheel, with no back-seat driving done by Asmodeus, nor any sneaky mind-controlling of the prisoners by Asmodeus, Asmodeus was just a spectator enjoying the show, not doing anything to intervene in MC's plans.

In other words, Miku realized on her own that she could get better treatment from MC by sexually servicing him and devoting herself to him, because Asmodeus was still only spectating things even at this point, and had not done anything to prompt Miku to do what she did.

It wasn't until at this point, where the MC's lack of sexual experience caused him to falter, that Asmodeus finally started sharing control over the steering wheel with MC, first by teaching him sexually with her servant, then by providing him the costume and throne and telling him what to do with them and Miku to bring forth what Asmodeus had suspected - from her spectating - lie within Miku.

In short, Miku herself, controlled by no one else, and of her own free will, sexually serviced MC and devoted herself to him because she figured it would likely give her better treatment.