I Can’t Date My Student… Can I? - Ch. 11.1

[Wyou]

where is the lie tho? kek

 

[Purplelibraryguy]

Well, I mean . . . she's not wrong . . . (but she's a spoilsport)

 

[144ix]

The advice about the relationship is pretty sound, but telling your friend they're "messed up" for getting horny feels a little mean, especially since it probably took a lot of courage to say all that.

i mean she’s getting horny frm a minor lol

 

[BlargET]

Okay but is it age or that she's inexperienced? That seemed overly mean and a bit wrong. This Mangas translation takes a bit but I don't remember it necessarily being about age. Or at least that's not what she told the friend. In short 30+ year old virgin gets aroused when a man gets rough with her. Not necessarily something I would say "you're messed up" over. Bit of an overstatement. But it only being about lust is spot on though.

 

[BlargET]

i mean she’s getting horny frm a minor lol

18 is minor now. What has this world come to.

 

[Mr.Oblivion]

Damn, gave her a hard reality check. That's refreshing to read.

If this was real life this is where it would end. She would make him go away and then get fucked by so playboy at a meetup.

 

[Mr.Oblivion]

Spoiler: Spoils

I don't have more info or full context. My info come from random pages the author post on twitter of things that gonna happen in future chapters. We were discussing this in another discussion thread. Like one of the pages is her suddenly meeting up with this fuckboy looking dude on what looks like a date. This chapter explains a little why she's probably doing it. Her friend roasted the shit outta her and she's probably trying to course correct outta the "weird" territory from the student.

It just makes her look retarded because " No the guy that really likes me for me is too young so i need to get with a fuckboy that only wants my body."

 

[orangerain7734]

I like the friend. She's very brutal with the truth. More people need friends like her.

 

[kamikazejoe]

friend is just jealous.

 

[positivemangawitch]

Messed up nahhh thats hot as fuck

 

[Newly_otaku]

Maan why is it getting so practical. I want to see some romance not realism. 😭 Let them fuck

 

[Outflanks10]

I really wasn't expecting something so realistic in this manga.

Thanks for the translation Danke fürs Lesen

 

[wallsg]

Assuming this was misnumbered? Seems to be taking place right after 10.3 but the chapter says 19 instead of 11

Aaand fixed as I made that comment, nevermind lol

I had this series marked on MAL as having read 18 chapters before this one and there was nothing missing or extra. I think things got renumbered, like x.1, x.2 and x.3 being marked as separate chapters and then merged. Either that or two entries got merged together.

 

[wallsg]

You just described half of Japanese alive today.

Not half but it is a lot.

The 30-year-old Virgin: One in 10 Adults in Japan Haven't Had Sex by Their Thirties
Newsweek, April 7, 2019

Spoiler: Longish excerpt hidden to save space

Approximately one in 10 heterosexual Japanese adults in their thirties are virgins, according to scientists investigating why a portion of the country's population appears to been turned off by sex.

In the past decade, half of the population had lost their virginity by their early 20s, a study published in the journal BMC Public Health revealed. A virgin was defined in the study as someone who had never had sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex.

Dr. Peter Ueda, lead author of the study, an expert in epidemiology and public health, and leader of the research project at the University of Tokyo told Newsweek the rates of sexually inexperienced heterosexual people in Japan are the highest ever observed in a high-income country.

...

Between 1992 and 2015, the number of women aged 18 to 39 who were virgins rose from 21.7 percent to 24.6 percent. In men, the number jumped from 20 percent to 25.8 percent.

And in those aged between 30 to 34 years old, the number of women who hadn't had a sexual experience rose from 6.2 percent in 1987 to 11.9 in 2015. Males saw this figure spike from 8.8 percent to 12.7 percent.

Some 4 percent of women aged between 35 to 39 had not had sex in 1992, rising to 8.9 percent in 2015. In the same period, the percentage rose from 5.5 percent of men to 9.5 percent.

...

[This part is entirely to be expected...]

"Among men aged 25-39 years, those in the lowest income category were ten to twenty times more likely to be virgins than those in the highest income category," said Ueda. And those who were unemployed or worked part time were eight and four times more likely respectively to not have had sex than those with regular employment. Meanwhile, women with lower personal incomes were more likely to have sex.

 

[wallsg]

For all of the Student/Teacher stuff... She runs a private/informal English Conversation Class business out of her apartment. This is not the same that as being a government-licensed professional school teacher. The term Sensei gets used in a lot of places that we wouldn't consider someone to be a "teacher".

 

[wallsg]

It just makes her look retarded because " No the guy that really likes me for me is too young so i need to get with a fuckboy that only wants my body."

You should mark this as Spoiler because it contains spoiler info from a comment that is marked spoiler.

 

[wallsg]

Not only someone younger, but a student on top of that, as a teacher that is kinda of messed up of her

She is not a "formal" teacher (privately runs a home business) and the "student" hasn't been her student in 5 years.

 

[wallsg]

Fun fact the adult age in Japan was 20 until 2022 when it was lowered to 18.

That was about the same time that the age of consent was raised from 13 to 16. And also about the same time as non-violent "not a rape" became classified as actual rape. Yes, it used to not be rape to get a girl drunk or even roofie her and bang her (although it likely violated other laws). Another Fun Fact: Statutory Rape won't be prosecuted if the older consenting partner is less than 5 years older, so a 17 yo could bang a 13 yo and not be prosecuted under national rape laws.

Various prefectures and cities have always had protection of minors laws that made the defacto age of consent at least 16 and up to 20 in Tokyo I believe.

 

[Kendama]

I'll say it again: there's nothing remotely controversial in this manga.

And to get it out of the way, I'd have zero qualms with a gender-reversed situation. Why? Because there was nothing wrong with the marriage of Oona O'Neill and Charles Chaplin. He was 54 and she was 18. They eloped to Mexico to get married, stayed together to the end, by all indications loved each other tenderly, raised a happy family of eight children (Chaplin was last a father at 73) and are buried next to each other. And since there was the threat of a stern father mentioned in this chapter: Oona's dad, Nobel Prize laureate playwright Eugene O'Neill cut ties with, disinherited and never saw her again. Doesn't seem like she gave a shit about it, and he was the one who died a bitter recluse.

Also: there's nothing wrong with lust. So long as there's mutual consent, sex is ultimately a private decision of what to do with one's own body and urges. There are tons of people who engage in casual sex. The friend here is a Victorian prude who thinks there's a standard way to begin a relationship. Getting down and dirty first and then trying out for feelings is as legitimate as the other way round. Kon'no is clearly lustful for her (one might argue that physical attraction was what got him going in the beginning), so why's everyone dunking on her for being turned on by the idea of getting laid by a hot young man?

The question is rhetorical and I'll answer: because as the audience we know Kon'no feels more than lust for her, and consider it unfair of Hinata to not be honest about how she's feeling, which might lead him to believe her emotions are reciprocal. Her friend's only good piece of advice (other than cautioning her that last-minute backpedalling on a sexually aroused teen can be dangerous if she doesn't know who she's dealing with, which is frankly not particularly brilliant counselling but par for the course) is getting Hinata to put in words how she feels about Kon'no. And the friend drew a completely wrong conclusion from her reply, and was nothing short of rude about it, guilt-tripping Hinata like that.

And that's the only charge I'll grant: she could have told him in advance she felt physically attracted, but at that point she didn't see him under a romantic light. That's a fair cry from being "messed up", it's a common communication mistake, something she could even admit after having sex with him and then the two could work things out. Starting couples do that all the time, it can lead to break-ups and second attempts, it's normal. It would be a mistake regardless of the age gap, and not something to throw rotten eggs at her for. Love is messy.

Sheesh, it's sad times when such a bland story gets everyone freaking out like this.

 

[Regerts]

God forbid she do something to someone that's legal. The horror. How many Shota manga are there again? And that seems to be largely accepted by making them legal is a problem. Epic. Milfs deserve love to brother man. Even from legal adults not just kids.... 💀