Ori no Naka - Ch. 8 - Rejection and Acceptance

[GlasseMan]

I've never commented on MD before but the literacy of you people is fucking infuriating. Can you please just stop projecting whatever you want the story to be onto it and fucking read the thing??

I swear to god, "She's going to prank him epic style and make him go to jail", "The author is fulfilling his incel fantasy"
SO FAR IT'S A STORY ABOUT TWO FREAKS, ONE IS DESPERATE ENOUGH TO JANCKLE IT TO PADS AND THE OTHER IS INTO HIS PATHETIC FIGURE WHILE HE DOES IT.

Fucking read the manga, please. Try to think about what the characters are thinking AND feeling. Or read an actual book for once, and maybe talk to the opposite sex a little more.

 

[chiiichan]

she's gonna fuck him up

 

[Jatopian]

Oh she's absolutely toying with him. It's a shame people are going to miss out on this because so many losers saw period blood and reflexively 1-voted.

Yeah, but calling it real sounds like a deviant talking.
For me, this manga is peak comedy precisely because of how unreal, and fictional, it is. If it was happening for real, I wouldn't be laughing,

And if an anvil falls on someone's head it's a gruesome death scene, but this isn't usually an appropriate thing to say when the context is Looney Toons.

This is weird advice to give someone, but when I was in my undergrad, I deadass just walked up to girls on the street and asked them out. Mostly rejections, but for the most part they were flattered that someone showed interest in them. You just need to be polite about it.

Unfortunately nowadays what happens is each time you roll the dice, and if you lose you get filmed and posted on TikTok and called a creep just for approaching. The whole "worst she can say is no" mentality is effectively out-of-touch boomer logic at this point.

I think she's going to let him touch her and then report him for rap3

I didn't know we even had rap 2, let alone rap 3. And here I am still listening to the original rap 1.

 

[ninkek]

I've never commented on MD before but the literacy of you people is fucking infuriating. Can you please just stop projecting whatever you want the story to be onto it and fucking read the thing??

I swear to god, "She's going to prank him epic style and make him go to jail", "The author is fulfilling his incel fantasy"
SO FAR IT'S A STORY ABOUT TWO FREAKS, ONE IS DESPERATE ENOUGH TO JANCKLE IT TO PADS AND THE OTHER IS INTO HIS PATHETIC FIGURE WHILE HE DOES IT.

Fucking read the manga, please. Try to think about what the characters are thinking AND feeling. Or read an actual book for once, and maybe talk to the opposite sex a little more.

What?! Women can be depraved like any other human being? Impossible, everyone knows that women aren't people!
Jokes aside though, it's pretty easy to dehumanize the "other" whether that be through deification or demonization. I don't have a girlfriend, but I do have a mom and little sister to help me stay somewhat grounded in reality.

 

[dsfargeg]

Unfortunately nowadays what happens is each time you roll the dice, and if you lose you get filmed and posted on TikTok and called a creep just for approaching. The whole "worst she can say is no" mentality is effectively out-of-touch boomer logic at this point.

oh man, that reminds me of that one ugly guy who asked a coworker out and had his life ruined over false rape charges. also reminds of that other dude who left a girl a polite note asking her out and she took pictures of it and posted it on twitter to humiliate him

shit's fucked man, i don't know how most guys put up with this kind of stuff and not just kill people constantly

 

[wotta57]

Unfortunately nowadays what happens is each time you roll the dice, and if you lose you get filmed and posted on TikTok and called a creep just for approaching. The whole "worst she can say is no" mentality is effectively out-of-touch boomer logic at this point.

That's just part of putting yourself out there. Asking someone out inherently requires you to show vulnerability.
(Also I'm 23 lol. Not sure why you're saying "nowadays")

oh man, that reminds me of that one ugly guy who asked a coworker out and had his life ruined over false rape charges. also reminds of that other dude who left a girl a polite note asking her out and she took pictures of it and posted it on twitter to humiliate him

shit's fucked man, i don't know how most guys put up with this kind of stuff and not just kill people constantly

I know the second instance you're talking about, and iirc most people were calling out how she posted a picture of that

 

[AcidVlad]

This is torture to read.

Peak kino.

 

[thatmanthatthat]

Blud is digging his own grave 😭😭😭

 

[Ingway]

Gomi dude. My pal. My comrade. My amigo. My brother in Christ.

The issue that you consider the biggest impedance to your happiness all boils down to consent

When you touch someone, you should only do it if they are comfortable with it being you. And in turn, you would call sexual assault if someone touched you and you were uncomfortable with it.

Like, this entire conundrum you are in could easily be solved if you just didn’t be a horny dude, grow a relationship with Kuroko, and then when you’re in a time where you can trust her and she can trust you, you can have a release without having to steal and jork it to used period pads

That doesn't stop potential sexual assault allegations, tons of people can get falsely accused, or have been, and these days many prefer to not even be alone with women or whatever. I think it's a mix of both fear of being rejected, and fear of being falsely accused of something you didn't do.
Dude's a wreck.

 

[ipmanvsthemask]

But those contradictions are what he has to work through.

You say that like the MC hasn't been trying. If it were so simple for him to work through, he wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. He also has no one to help him.

 

[story645]

You say that like the MC hasn't been trying. If it were so simple for him to work through, he wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. He also has no one to help him.

No, I think him trying to is what makes this story interesting. It also doesn't seem like he's really sought anyone out to help him - we don't have much backstory yet but dude doesn't seem to have real friends either and that's also part of the putting himself out there. I'd be interested in more backstory on what made him so closed off.

The whole "worst she can say is no" mentality is effectively out-of-touch boomer logic at this point.

Millennial, but also coming from a woman.

Also broadly speaking I'd suggest getting to know the girl well enough to know if she's the type to put you on blast b/f asking her out.

 

[Friendly-Sentence710]

Looking back on it, why was it that when she realised her used tampons were going missing, she reacted with disgust up until the moment that she saw the video of Gomi sniffing her tampon intensely and masturbating with it?
Surely she already inferred that whoever was taking her used tampons was doing so out of perverted sexual desires, so why would she be disgusted by that thought initially then excited after seeing visual evidence of the exact same thing? Was watching a man masturbate to her tampon simply better and more pleasing than she initially expected?

I find it a little hard to believe that simply the thrill of blackmailing and torturing the protagonist would enough of an anticipated pay-off for her to enjoy holding his hand and enjoying such dull conversation.
I don't think she's simply excited by the prospect of punishing or having control over him, she's at the very least also excited by his perverted behaviour and the way he has violated her.
She's a freak. a slut.

She is into him because she has control and because he's interested in HER and not just someone to randomly creep on.

The manga about a guy stealing pads feels real to you?

Pft c'mon who HASN'T spent months to engineer an entire elaborate method to get the freshest used pads from a coworker to use to taste and masturbate with? Don't front.

 

[Judaskiss]

This artist always does an excellent job depicting despair through warped anatomy and heavy line usage. I’ve never seen anything like it.

 

[dsfargeg]

Millennial, but also coming from a woman.

ohhhh that's why your advice in this thread has has been awful and leads to people destroying themselves

 

[danbellucci]

This is weird advice to give someone, but when I was in my undergrad, I deadass just walked up to girls on the street and asked them out. Mostly rejections, but for the most part they were flattered that someone showed interest in them. You just need to be polite about it.

yeah, sure. Because a university campus is a generally acceptable place to approach a woman you don't know and ask her out.
But still, you're using your social skill and sense of awareness about standards of propriety to know and discern that that situation is an acceptable place to ask an unfamiliar female out , whereas an empty street, or a university campus at night , or on public transport, or a dangerous city etc are all less acceptable.
So it isn't just that simple as asking people out unless you have a background, prerequisite level of social skill and awareness of what's proper.

It's harrassment when there's a power dynamic that makes it hard for her to say no or you're making it really uncomfortable for her by doing things like cornering her or using sexually aggressive language. Politely asking out a single peer who you are allowed to be romantically involved with and then never mentioning it again if she says no really isn't harassment.


Not being glib here, therapy is a great place to build those skills and awareness.

All those provisos you add, which is far from an exhaustive list of circumstances that make asking a female out unacceptable or less acceptable, just show the the same as I said above.
Also I totally disagree about therapy being a great place for that. That's basically trusting a stranger you pay to have your best interests at heart. You're almost always going to be better off asking a trusted family member or friend and only if you're in the desperate situation of having no trusted family or friends should you pay a therapist to tell you the proper way too ask females out.

 

[dsfargeg]

All those provisos you add, which is far from an exhaustive list of circumstances that make asking a female out unacceptable or less acceptable, just show the the same as I said above.
Also I totally disagree about therapy being a great place for that. That's basically trusting a stranger you pay to have your best interests at heart. You're almost always going to be better off asking a trusted family member or friend and only if you're in the desperate situation of having no trusted family or friends should you pay a therapist to tell you the proper way too ask females out.

I'm with you on this one. There is not a thing a therapist can do for you that one of your elders cannot, save for throwing you feet-first into the pharmaceutical woodchipper.

 

[danbellucci]

I can't tell if this manga is supposed to be portraying the MC as deluded or if the incel manifesto presented every chapter is supposed to be taken at face value. I'm giving the author the benefit of the doubt that this is all set up to show the MC as a pathetic loser and not validate stealing period pads but with manga authors it can be hard to tell.

Lol what do you mean take at face value? Yes those are literally Gomi's thoughts and you should believe that they are his thoughts and take it at face value that he believes that , such that any self-deception and rationalisation Gomi engages in is buried.
You know it's possible to portray someone's beliefs and actions as wrong but also portray that character sympathetically.

 

[danbellucci]

I've never commented on MD before but the literacy of you people is fucking infuriating. Can you please just stop projecting whatever you want the story to be onto it and fucking read the thing??

I swear to god, "She's going to prank him epic style and make him go to jail", "The author is fulfilling his incel fantasy"
SO FAR IT'S A STORY ABOUT TWO FREAKS, ONE IS DESPERATE ENOUGH TO JANCKLE IT TO PADS AND THE OTHER IS INTO HIS PATHETIC FIGURE WHILE HE DOES IT.

Fucking read the manga, please. Try to think about what the characters are thinking AND feeling. Or read an actual book for once, and maybe talk to the opposite sex a little more.

cope. We're going to speculate and you're going to sit their and read our comments like a good little cucky.

 

[danbellucci]

She is into him because she has control and because he's interested in HER and not just someone to randomly creep on.



Pft c'mon who HASN'T spent months to engineer an entire elaborate method to get the freshest used pads from a coworker to use to taste and masturbate with? Don't front.

You're probably right but what that means is that if Gomi had just taken the pad , given it a quick sniff and then put it in a bag to enjoy properly later outside of the woman's bathroom where he might have been caught, she probably would have reported him to the company, so it's only because Gomi happened to be so horny that he said yumezora's name out loud and jacked off with the tampon right there on camera for her to see that Yumezora decided that actually this is hot and changed her mind about reporting the tampon thief.

I guess the drama is going to come from either Yumezora wanting to torment/tease Gomi and watch him squirm , or yumezora wants gomi for exceedingly depraved things like more extreme blood-period play and Gomi starts to find her offputting or is disappointed that she's such a freak rather than a good girl.

 

[story645]

ohhhh that's why your advice in this thread has has been awful and leads to people destroying themselves

My advice to treat girls as human beings and ask out peers in a polite easy to reject manner? ETA: would you like a girl you're not interested in to pressure you into going on a date?

Like if any dudes in this thread are destroying themselves, my guess is it's cause they're buying into the incel nonsense that's eating at the character.

only if you're in the desperate situation of having no trusted family or friends should you pay a therapist to tell you the proper way too ask females out.

Um, there really isn't one proper way, it depends on the girl, and like you pay a trained professional to help you work through the issues that have you thinking in this way about dating. Being able to ask a girl out is a byproduct of having a healthier mindset.