Hope You're Happy, Lemon - Ch. 60

[dokidoki]

You were objecting to the word teenager when 18 and 19 ARE teenagers. That is why people are jumping on you.

Ofcourse I was, they are adults and some dude was saying oh no they are teenagers so what lemon did to MC isn't that big of a deal like a child doing something bad but getting away with it because they are a child? hence I call bullshit because they aren't a child they are adults now and the past has consequences

 

[youkari]

Let me guess. She will confess and saying she is into girl back in middle school or she is just a boy transition into girl. Regardless what the author comes up with, it is still F* up.

You know, I usually like giving people the benefit of the doubt. Like "maybe English isn't their first language", or "they might be dyslexic or on the spectrum somewhere". But you my friend, I think you just might be a couple of fries short of a happy meal.

 

[AccForManga]

Ofcourse I was, they are adults and some dude was saying oh no they are teenagers so what lemon did to MC isn't that big of a deal like a child doing something bad but getting away with it because they are a child? hence I call bullshit because they aren't a child they are adults now and the past has consequences

You do realize they were 13/14 when the breakup happened though, right? It was before HS.

 

[Belgaesh]

Now it seems we are finally going to see adressed why Lemon broke up with him with such a lie. But the cause of the swap is still a mystery.

 

[Rafalga]

This entire thing is so fucking stupid just to force Lemon back in to Sunaobowl. Never read more pseudo take on human condition than this one. Just to make a retcon not look like one lol

 

[Scruffy]

Ofcourse I was, they are adults and some dude was saying oh no they are teenagers so what lemon did to MC isn't that big of a deal like a child doing something bad but getting away with it because they are a child? hence I call bullshit because they aren't a child they are adults now and the past has consequences

once again. They ARE teenagers. Not sure why you are being so dense. You stop being a teenager when you hit 20, not before.

 

[dokidoki]

once again. They ARE teenagers. Not sure why you are being so dense. You stop being a teenager when you hit 20, not before.

by law still adults (which is what I have always been talking about), doesn't matter if you consider them teenagers

 

[Lunkli]

No no no. "Fall in love again...that was the plan"— It's still the plan. It's still the plan!

I swear, if he ends up falling in love with Lemon again and abandons Kogahara...

 

[Aster_von_Einzbern]

also, sad thing is that girls tend to gossiping like that, and even create bad rumors about guys. guys are not calling them sluts, but damn... poor sunao

 

[fight2live]

okay, good explanations

 

[Dennis-aka-Denji]

Not that these stories usually make much sense, but this one makes even less sense than usual. Why wouldn't Lemon just explain the circumstances? Especially now, after all this time has passed.

She's literally on her way to do it? It's not weird that it took time for her to summon the courage. Well adjusted grown ups have a hard time talking about trumatic things, let alone teenagers.

 

[Dennis-aka-Denji]

Now it seems we are finally going to see adressed why Lemon broke up with him with such a lie. But the cause of the swap is still a mystery.

I mean, it was the wish she made upon the shooting star. I doubt we're gonna get more of a reason than that, this isn't gonna go sci-fi or anything. Once they clear up their past they'll probably stop switching and that'll be that.

 

[the_Bear_from_Bearcave]

once again. They ARE teenagers. Not sure why you are being so dense. You stop being a teenager when you hit 20, not before.

Teenagers usually refer to category of kids. Those are adults. No one differs between first year and third year university students calling first groups "teenagers", because they belong in the same age group as second group, "young adults". dokidoki is absolutely correct here.

 

[Phelgming]

Teenagers usually refer to category of kids. Those are adults. No one differs between first year and third year university students calling first groups "teenagers", because they belong in the same age group as second group, "young adults". dokidoki is absolutely correct here.

Teenagers are called teenagers because their ages are in the teens.

Some teenagers are by definition/legally considered children. Some teenagers are by definition/legally considered adults.

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages

teen·ag·er
/ˈtēˌnājər/
noun

1. a person aged between 13 and 19 years.
   "as a teenager she discovered she had a talent for dance"

 

[Phelgming]

All of this makes her honestly look super heartless and selfish

1. Realistically, it's a super awkward situation in general,
2. we STILL don't have Lemon's perspective or reasoning,
3. most people never talk to their exes again if they can avoid it,
4. Sunao never really suffered or was heartbroken until he convinced himself to be (he was sad and upset, sure; that's just part of the package of being broken up with and would happen to most people).

What did Lemon ACTUALLY do that was super heartless and selfish? All she did was break up with a boy. Are all girls who break up with boys heartless and selfish?

For that matter, no one, neither male nor female, needs a reason to break up with someone if they don't want to be in the relationship. Anyone can just leave and should if they want to.

Sure, she gave him a weird explanation and lied about why she was doing it. Does it REALLY matter THAT much? Even if it did (which it really doesn't), she was a child who didn't know how to end a relationship that she very much seemed to want to still be in, but felt she had to end due to external issues. From all the context we have available to us (which is still not much, but everything is running contrary to your opinion), it looks like Lemon felt trapped and was essentially forced to bail for some thus far unexplained reason.

 

[Dennis-aka-Denji]

Teenagers usually refer to category of kids. Those are adults. No one differs between first year and third year university students calling first groups "teenagers", because they belong in the same age group as second group, "young adults". dokidoki is absolutely correct here.

That's just wrong tho. Towards the end of your college years you are painfully aware of the difference in behaviour and reasoning between your peers and the new batch of freshmen. They seem closer to highscoolers than yourself.
But all of that is completely besides the point, which was originally that Lemon was a teenager (13 or so) when she broke up with Sunao, so her making weird decisions was both expected and excusable.

 

[Ninoren]

What did Lemon ACTUALLY do that was super heartless and selfish? All she did was break up with a boy. Are all girls who break up with boys heartless

Aite man, you're coping hard there. 😐

The breaking up part was literally never the issue, but the making him believe she cheated on him with FOUR people, while breaking up was.

All those rumors, and her confirming it and then just ghosting him, would literally leave him no other option, besides eventually convince himself it might be true since he has logically no option to deny it, she confirmed it herself and there was no further conversation ever again up to her just talking again to him like nothing happened, if you look at what happened after that i honestly don't know how that DIDN'T hurt him in your eyes 😐

So yes, what she did was heartless, if you're in Sunao's shoes 100%, her now acting in love again, while still not even having explained the fucked up stuff before makes her selfish

 

[Phelgming]

Aite man, you're coping hard there. 😐

The breaking up part was literally never the issue, but the making him believe she cheated on him with FOUR people, while breaking up was.

All those rumors, and her confirming it and then just ghosting him, would literally leave him no other option, besides eventually convince himself it might be true since he has logically no option to deny it, she confirmed it herself and there was no further conversation ever again up to her just talking again to him like nothing happened, if you look at what happened after that i honestly don't know how that DIDN'T hurt him in your eyes 😐

So yes, what she did was heartless, if you're in Sunao's shoes 100%, her now acting in love again, while still not even having explained the fucked up stuff before makes her selfish

So your sole issue is that a child lied and felt too awkward to speak with her ex about it?

So by your logic, if she just broke up with him without the lie and then ghosted him, she'd be clear and free?

Or should she have broken up with him and then stayed in his life (which is a normal and sane thing for an ex to do /s)?

Or could she have ghosted him without saying anything?

Or, maybe the most bizarre choice, could she have lied, broken up with him, and not ghosted him? At which point she would have broken up with him for essentially no reason.

Because if it's none of those, it sounds like your problem with her is that she broke up with him at all.

 

[Ninoren]

So your sole issue is that a child lied and felt too awkward to speak with her ex about?

So by your logic, if she just broke up with him without the lie and then ghosted him, she'd be clear and free?

Or should she have broken up with him and then stayed in his life (which is a normal and sane thing for an ex to do /s)?

Or could she have ghosted him without breaking up at all?

Or, maybe the most bizarre choice, could she have lied, broken up with him, and not ghosted him? At which point she would have broken up with him for essentially no reason.

Because if it's none of those, it sounds like your problem with her is that she broke up with him at all.

Why are you coping so hard 🥲

She literally could've just broken up with him, there was no reason whatsoever to add fuel to the fire, also her purposefully saying that to break up, just means she was entirely aware of how much that could hurt him.

Her breaking up and just saying she doesn't love him anymore, or honestly anything at all, or her confirming the rumours, it's obvious which would hurt less 😐

The issue lies entirely in how she went about it and acted after meeting him again

 

[Phelgming]

Why are you coping so hard 🥲

She literally could've just broken up with him, there was no reason whatsoever to add fuel to the fire, also her purposefully saying that to break up, just means she was entirely aware of how much that could hurt him.

Her breaking up and just saying she doesn't love him anymore, or honestly anything at all, or her confirming the rumours, it's obvious which would hurt less 😐

The issue lies entirely in how she went about it and acted after meeting him again

So your problem is that a child lied to spare her boyfriend's feelings? And that (even though it worked and he took it calmly and wasn't in any way harmed emotionally until he, a year later, through no input from her (afterall, she ghosted him) convinced himself to be) is what makes her heartless and selfish?

Then, when she's forced into a situation that's ALREADY awkward enough, her not being able to immediately summon the fortitude to explain a foible she'd made four years prior is just unforgiveable because only heartless, selfish people have any difficulty interacting with people?

Am I getting that all right? That's you explanation?