Watashitachi wa Moto Joshi desu - Ch. 17 - The Truth

[MangaDex]

 

[Elki]

No you're not, girl.

 

[Kirin-kun]

I'm all caught up. Next chapter I don't know when, since the schedule is pretty random.

 

[ipmanvsthemask]

It's always the dudes with their eyes closed.

 

[SuperOniichan]

Damn, this story is back to its traditional edgy gender bender deconstruction in just one chapter. Although I was already ready to joke about the fight and attach a screenshot from Tekken with words about the appearance of a new challenger. But even if the MC actually changed their gender or looks androgynous (of sorts...), this kind of obsessive attention to someone else's gender is still extremely toxic and offensive. Even in the form of a joke. It's like interrogating other people about their sexuality or trying to obsessively find out their ethnic roots. I say this as a former androgynous child with partial Jewish roots.

 

[aard_bei]

Was gonna comment about the silly faces during the fight but holy hell did those last couple pages hit hard

 

[Robinisback]

It's always the dudes with their eyes closed.

These close eyes dudes definitely traded their normal eyes to gain supernatural senses, ong.

 

[Blacktart]

Here's my take if she does go back to being female she could but at the same time her being male is also her reality so she needs to be honest with herself does she truly want to go with trying to transition back or accept himself as himself. I mean she hasn't been a dude for that long either.

 

[SuperOniichan]

These close eyes dudes definitely traded their normal eyes to gain supernatural senses, ong.

It's always the dudes with their eyes closed.

There are female characters with this facial expression. For example, in Shinryaku! Ika Musume. It's called "the fox eyes" and denotes a cunning character who hides their true intentions/strength/personality behind a fake emotionless smile (fake smile + play on the idea that the eyes are the mirror of the soul). Like the old joke about Tyleran, how you wouldn't see any reaction on his face even if he was kicked in the ass at the same moment.

 

[Ayazel]

Here before after the abhorrent queer comment section bataillon.

 

[Ayazel]

It's unfortunate that it has come to this, but the truth had to come out eventually. You can't go around, trying to maintain a statu quo that doesn't even exist anymore. Doesn't make closed-eyes-guy any less of a jerk though.

 

[Andigo]

This chapter was brutal. Things broke. It wasn't cute. This may be my favorite chapter so far.

Here's my take if she does go back to being female she could but at the same time her being male is also her reality so she needs to be honest with herself does she truly want to go with trying to transition back or accept himself as himself. I mean she hasn't been a dude for that long either.

The divisions are slightly messier, but you've got the right answer Rinko's healthcare is covered, after all.

Here before after the abhorrent queer comment section bataillon.

Which you love for some obvious reason.

 

[NinjaGoemon]

This is the problem with bigotry, you try to put down someone and you end up pissing off someone that'll break your neck.

That said it's hard to trust this "confession" when it comes after being forcibly outed and made to look disgusting.

 

[Ayazel]

This chapter was brutal. Things broke. It wasn't cute. This may be my favorite chapter so far.

The divisions are slightly messier, but you've got the right answer Rinko's healthcare is covered, after all.


Which you love for some obvious reason. Good luck with that.

Funny how even though I dislike this community, I just can't stop crossing path with it. Was binge reading Iruma in Demon School the other month... and every single time this neither-male-nor-female demon appeared (Opera), people would always fight in the comment sections about whether it's a he, a she, a they or whatever.
I mean, I don't even understand why I read the comments every time. Maybe I should just stick with reading the chapters and that's it. Or is it the primitive entertainment of watching people fight over meaningless things?...

 

[SuperOniichan]

This chapter was brutal. Things broke. It wasn't cute. This may be my favorite chapter so far.

The divisions are slightly messier, but you've got the right answer Rinko's healthcare is covered, after all.


Which you love for some obvious reason.

People have accused me of being transphobic many times when I debated trans activists, but when I wrote that it was toxic to try to forcedly figure out someone else's gender or gender identity, I was called the "queer battalion". We live in a society, as you can see.

Funny how even though I dislike this community, I just can't stop crossing path with it. Was binge reading Iruma in Demon School the other month... and every single time this neither-male-nor-female demon appeared (Opera), people would always fight in the comment sections about whether it's a he, a she, a they or whatever.
I mean, I don't even understand why I read the comments every time. Maybe I should just stick with reading the chapters and that's it. Or is it the primitive entertainment of watching people fight over meaningless things?...

In this case, this argument is entirely yours, because I have no connection to the queer community and was merely implying that it is toxic to violate someone's personal space with uncomfortable and rude questions/jokes. Including citing my own experiences with people who rudely tried to find out my ethnicity or comment on my gender. This has nothing to do with queer people directly, because it can happen to anyone.

 

[ErikTheRed]

Transvestigating scum

 

[Andigo]

Funny how even though I dislike this community, I just can't stop crossing path with it. Was binge reading Iruma in Demon School the other month... and every single time this neither-male-nor-female demon appeared (Opera), people would always fight in the comment sections about whether it's a he, a she, a they or whatever.
I mean, I don't even understand why I read the comments every time. Maybe I should just stick with reading the chapters and that's it. Or is it the primitive entertainment of watching people fight over meaningless things?...

Well, Opera as a side character is one thing, but gender is the main course for this manga. I may see this from opposite how you do: As long as someone clears the low bar of not cheering bullying, and having at least a short fuse, I don't see the conflict as meaningless or unproductive. At worst an argument about what's better for characters is better than leaving it to monkeys headplanting typewriters. That goes for fiction in general; the world would be boring if people agreed on Tanya the Evil or Overlord, and this awkwardness is ultra mild in comparison.

 

[VF89]

Y'all bitches gotta chill. Less this thread's gonna get lock. It happened.

 

[okaeri_arisu]

great bit with a) mao trying to be supportive within the normative framework where being gender nonconforming is the worst thing you can be and b) mino internalizing the transphobia and believing that being a girl with "boy parts" is automatically harmful. i have to disagree with the earlier commenter re: "back to edgy genderbender deconstruction", this manga still hits high notes wrt/ gender themes.

 

[Kirin-kun]

Did you notice that on the last pages, only Yuuki, Mio and Mao are present?

Going by the flashbacks we saw in earlier chapters, Yuuki, Mio and Mao were childhood friends when Yuuki was still a girl, so they both know that Yuuki changed.

And that's why Yuuki was about to say that "if it's Kawamura-san..." (she'll accept it) and that's why this "coming out" probably isn't going to blow up that much, since both Mio and Mao already know someone who went through the same thing.