Akuyaku Reijou no Oyome-sama - Ch. 4

[Iratana]

Which, again, if she's had desire to have a princess waifu and plan for it since long ago, how come she's only starting to build the house now?

Maybe the fact that she couldn't read the description. I know I said that the pictures were self-explanatory, but only if they show it. She only saw the upper half of the house, and not even the whole picture of the house. It wasn't until Karina read it to her, the previous day, that she learned that a house was built at the east on a hill.

Honestly at this point we've gone so off course I'm not even sure what was your point anymore.

My point's been clear, and that her love for Karina is based on the ideal image she has of the princess within the story, I even supported it with what the story showed us thus far. You're the one who kept trying to poke holes in my stance... but couldn't so then you just kept nitpicking.

But it doesn't matter since either of us could be dead wrong, so I'll gladly leave it at this.

 

[WhimsiCat]

My point's been clear, and that her love for Karina is based on the ideal image she has of the princess within the story, I even supported it with what the story showed us thus far. You're the one who kept trying to poke holes in my stance... but couldn't so then you just kept nitpicking.

But it doesn't matter since either of us could be dead wrong, so I'll gladly leave it at this.

You're sticking to only the parts that coincide with the story and ignore everything else Reshu did.
Pretty sure her getting Karina a job alone is already not that 'ideal image of the princess' already, but you're free to keep your head in the dark.

My counter point was she's doing it because she think that's what 'a princess' would like, but apparently you either refused to acknowledge that or have nothing to say back either.

Even in this chapter she said 'the princess is like you', not the other way around.

EDIT: p.s.

Long story short, Reshutoka may very well love Karina earnestly, however that love still is based on the ideal image of the princess, not of Karina herself.

Karina herself brought up that point, which means unless the story plan to take really fucked up route (which evidences so far suggest otherwise) then basic genre savviness would leans to her being proven wrong later.

So you did in fact make a dead wrong take.

 

[kianaless_mei]

I do think Reshutoka looked at Karina to fulfill a role but I am really curious as to why. Why is Reshutoka interested in human women and not just regular beastwomen? Is there a reason she was drawn to the images in the book? We are seeing things from Karina's POV only and I really want to see a broader picture of her and her tribe and their customs, that would provide a lot of context.

I am just dying to see the moment these two have an honest conversation where Reshutoka is no longer the one with all the power or Karina has no choice but to tell her the truth.

 

[NIPHY]

Honestly, instead of a prophecy I would say it’s evidence that this isn’t the first time a human interacted and integrated into “beastmen” society.

They could have embellished a story of a human from a settlement in the north during the “era of legends” before the rise of the kingdom as it is currently. Instead of saying “daughter of influent people on the tribe” they say princess to make it more modern. Instead of exiled for maybe being too useless to the tribe (she had to be taken care of), she was abandoned for unknown reasons.

Or it could have been a huge coincidence, because the Royal Era is almost 5 centuries, so in the early ages of the kingdom a similar situation to Karina’s would have had happened to a noble lady and turned into a legend. However not exactly the same. Karina was framed as villainess, the story in the book puts it as if they didn’t want to take care of her anymore, so the protagonist was possibly frail or something.

Well, I would say part 2 will follow the Beauty and the Beast format in a way — true love will make the beast reveal his human form. We already know the wolves can turn into human looking beings, so in the end the wolf will reveal himself to be the “Prince of the Wolves” or something. Or they could even omit the fact they turn into anthropomorphic beings and the fairy tale author could go for a fucking beauty and the beast-esque “he has been cursed”.

I still think it came from a real story that was adapted to fit a certain mindset (the one that wants to hide that the “beasts” are actually much more similar to humans than one would believe). But a true story regardless. Karina is just seeing herself in this awfully similar situation. But it is a bit by Reshutoka’s design, since she was probably more inclined to bring Karina to her village because she saw the book character in the woman dressed in noble clothing. We don’t know how she would have behaved were Karina just a commoner, she would have probably taken her to receive care but take her back home or to the nearest human tribe. Also the house decoration was 100% on purpose. Sis is living her self insert fiction as the wolf (going by the fact she can’t read, she probably saw the pretty girl, the wolf saving the pretty girl, and the wolf living with the pretty girl).

The materials from the east mountain could be even more evidence that the story is based on facts rather than she can read and is doing it on purpose, or there is a visual cue in the picture book we didn’t get to see, like a special type of tree that Reshutoka recognised.

If there isn’t a cue and Reshutoka is telling the truth, the blessing by the spirits story is a common belief in the wolf tribe, so she is just doing what everyone in her village does when they are getting married or something.

I don’t know, I’d like to hold onto the hope that her actions are as innocent as they seem: she wants to make her dream girl happy and is being smart about it (have the human integrate my village by taking the role of a translator for us illiterate people).

That's a lot of digging and thinking. I was waiting for karina to cry but she was too tough for that.. and the last part of the book gives hope.

The Wolf girl is indeed suspicious maybe she actually read it but, her reaction is too innocent.
That said ..
I want to see her maid again. Her maid , looking back...
her maid looks like she really cares for karina.

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Anyways if I had been in Karina’s place at this point I would have killed myself. My family and the royals want me dead and are sending assassins, no one truly cared about me, and now I am being held hostage by a crazy wolf lady who could kill me if I let something she doesn’t like slip that is using me as a proxy for her childhood fictional crush… Let the snow take me, bruh.

You're pretty loved.. A person who surrounded of love might feel stumped and at loss when they don't feel the usual love they received

But a person devoid of it wouldn't even feel like that.. they are fine without it. Until someone introduced them what so called "love" feels like.

"Going through hard times makes you stronger"

Hardship makes you stronger and like that Karina is a tough rock.

 

[3turtlesinacoat]

Still not to fond of Reshutoka and her methods. Idt "haha, sorry" is at all a proper excuse for what she did in chapters 1 and 2 either but im willing to give this another few chapters in the hope that she or karinas situation gets better.
Thanks for the chapter.

 

[Rainmoarr]

Those two live in two completely different genres

 

[Mlfg_AK]

Maaan....nooo Karina, she might see you as a princess but unlike those ass aristocrats she isn't expecting or wanting anything from you other than to be happy 😩

 

[wlftchtr82]

Maaan....nooo Karina, she might see you as a princess but unlike those ass aristocrats she isn't expecting or wanting anything from you other than to be happy 😩

She really wants that villussy tho 😩

Her hidden intentions keep showing but Karina probably has no idea two women can do it with each other.

 

[kianaless_mei]

She really wants that villussy tho 😩

Her hidden intentions keep showing but Karina probably has no idea two women can do it with each other.

She thought Reshutoka wanted to eat her, literally.

 

[mufhtagn]

Oh no. What is going to happen when Reshutoka sees Karina’s sister? T_T Karina doesn’t look like the princess at all, but her sister does.

 

[Kitsune_115]

THE ANGST UGHHHHH
Thanks for the tl

 

[Mlfg_AK]

She really wants that villussy tho 😩

Her hidden intentions keep showing but Karina probably has no idea two women can do it with each other.

I'm gonna need Karina in this meme 😭

 

[Mlfg_AK]

Oh no. What is going to happen when Reshutoka sees Karina’s sister? T_T Karina doesn’t look like the princess at all, but her sister does.

Nah I'm pretty sure(I want to believe) Reshutoka is pretty locked on Karina, there's no other princess in her eyes

(But at the same time, there's the possibility that Reshutoka is playing dumb and knows more of Karina's life than she lets on, so she may already know abt the sister)

 

[chilneun]

painful.

 

[Kurro]

Welcome to the wonderful world of two very different cultures meeting and not understanding jack shit of each others culture. Doesn't help one has trust issues and the other is a puppy.

 

[galaxia9]

Even if she's not seeing you for you, you've found someone trying to make you happy, who's happy to see you and affectionate. That's a good starting point for getting to properly know each other.

 

[Rafalga]

Still not to fond of Reshutoka and her methods. Idt "haha, sorry" is at all a proper excuse for what she did in chapters 1 and 2 either but im willing to give this another few chapters in the hope that she or karinas situation gets better.
Thanks for the chapter.

I think author wants to steer clear from the rapey doggo from the first chapter (why did she do it in the first place i don't know) since her character had a pretty sharp turn in terms of pushiness in the very next chapter. I am also waiting for some chapters before deciding on dropping or continuing.

 

[himi-cat]

Oh no. What is going to happen when Reshutoka sees Karina’s sister? T_T Karina doesn’t look like the princess at all, but her sister does.

Nah I'm pretty sure(I want to believe) Reshutoka is pretty locked on Karina, there's no other princess in her eyes

(But at the same time, there's the possibility that Reshutoka is playing dumb and knows more of Karina's life than she lets on, so she may already know abt the sister)

I think Aurora (Karina's sister) has spent her life being considered valuable, but also weak, and therefore needing to be protected by everyone around her; it seems like she's learned to use that attitude towards her in order to achieve her own ends (though exactly what those ends are, and how nefarious they might be, we have yet to discover).

The thing is, though, being strong, confident in yourself, and willing to take action independently are clearly highly valued in Reshutoka's culture, and they're things that come naturally to Karina. Reshutoka has outright said that one of the things she finds beautiful about Karina is her pride, and she doesn't seem to have found it annoying (or even odd) that Karina has been pushing back against a lot of the things she's done. She didn't even seem to find it problematic that Karina ran off into the snowy night to try and get home - slightly strange, for sure, and not all that wise, but not something that made her think less of Karina (if anything she seems to have seen it as a bit cute). Someone who had built their whole identity and sense of their own power around manipulating and using others to get what she wants would probably seem disgusting to Reshutoka and her tribe; at best she'd be seen as strange and maybe kind of pathetically sick, but I wouldn't be surprised if the wolves saw her as something more akin to a rabid animal than a person.

So I really don't think Aurora is going to get in the way of Reshutoka's liking for Karina, and if she even tried I expect it'd go rather badly for her . . . But I don't think Aurora would make such an attempt, she seems smarter than that (and probably at least as vaillainous as her sister, with fewer excuses).

 

[yanderecoverl]

Cmon karina just admit your love to reshutoka, or does she have more intimate with her

 

[himi-cat]

I think author wants to steer clear from the rapey doggo from the first chapter (why did she do it in the first place i don't know) since her character had a pretty sharp turn in terms of pushiness in the very next chapter. I am also waiting for some chapters before deciding on dropping or continuing.

I'm pretty sure the "rapey doggo" was acting out one of the ways that marriage bonds are supposed to be formed in her culture - probably a bit over-enthusiastically (a bit? maybe a lot . . . ), and probably skipping a few steps, but not with any conscious intent to deprive Karina of a choice in the matter. I expect the bits of the process that got skipped are the ones where Karina could have said no, and where the rest of the village would have had some involvement - obviously Karina had no idea about the former; the latter part has probably been politely ignored because Reshutoka clearly has high standing in the village (and why would anyone doubt that this beautiful stranger would immediatly fall in love with the awesome Reshutoka?)

The fairy tale is also part of this - it seems likely that Reshutoka sees her encounter with Karina as an act of fate mirroring the fairy tale, and that's a lot of what caused her to jump the gun . . . which honestly is a very childish notion that actually makes me wonder a bit about her age and maturity . . . How exactly she knows the plot of the fairy tale is a mystery that will clearly be explored - my guess is that the book is merely one retelling of a more common myth/story in the region, but there may be more to it than that.

From a storytelling perspective I think that initial encounter was mostly intended to highlight the cultural disconnect between the two main characters, and to expose the reader to a few key aspects of Reshutoka's culture - in particular its relatively uncivilised (even primal) nature. But that first chapter also clearly established the things Reshutoka admires about Karina, and they're not things that would sit well alongside raping her - if anything, they suggest that she'd expect Karina to fight her if she was doing something unwanted. Which she did! Except, she was fighting in a way that didn't match the setting - again, showing the cultural disconnect between the civilised Karina who reacted to the situation mostly with discussion and negotiation, and the uncivilised Reshutoka who used (and expected in response) a far more physical kind of communication.

. . . there was probably also an element of getting the attention of the potential audience, with some hot nekkid ladies "sparring" in the bedroom - notice that subsequent chapters haven't continued that, either . . .