Hope You're Happy, Lemon - Ch. 64

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This part here in particular is what might be throwing me off the most. I just didn't get much of a grip on what makes Lemon tick beyond a surface level. For the large part of the manga she's just... Miss Geniality, and I thought, ok, she's a fairly standard heroine so far... and so far... and so far.

I sort of get what the author was going for, but the lack of anything even hinting at this, either from Lemon or the people surrounding Lemon, makes it tough to swallow.
I think its just the authors REALLY poor writing skills in trying to make this good and failing, you can DEF see the inspiration he got from MULTIPLE different series, this series is DEF carried by the REALLY good art :aquadrink:
 
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Bro this comment section is INSANE are we even reading the same story? Any “retconning” being done here is because of Sunao deluding himself into hating her (unreliable narrator), but unlike him who got over it I swear you guys are stuck on the hate train for one reason or another.

I just jumped from chapter 3, (…) BLAH BLAH BLAH I HATE JAPANESE PEOPLE
average lemon hater
 
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I still think its a bit weird that she held onto her crush for 4 years while never contacting him but then wants to get back together as soon as they meet again without even an explanation and i doubt that anything in the nexr few chapters will change my mind on it im ngl.

Also its nice to get her perspective but this whole flashback arc feels kinda dragged out. I almost forgot kohagara since its been so long that she was even mentioned.

well get atleast one more chapter of flashback but at this pace itll be another 4 before we get back into present day
 
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I still don't care about Lemon after these past few chapters
 

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lemon’s behavior is honestly really relatable—social anxiety is usually portrayed to the extreme but showing the seemingly normal behavior contrasted with self-destructive and irrational social behaviors was refreshing. obviously the structure of the story makes this too little too late but their dynamic as platonic besties is far better than a shoe-horned romance.
 
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lemon’s behavior is honestly really relatable—social anxiety is usually portrayed to the extreme but showing the seemingly normal behavior contrasted with self-destructive and irrational social behaviors was refreshing. obviously the structure of the story makes this too little too late but their dynamic as platonic besties is far better than a shoe-horned romance.
it would be interesting if it goes that way but again it would be weirdly done by the author, as since Lemon coming back she's acting in love and from the flashback it was closer as you say to platonic friendship as she didn't know much about love (and probably still from what it looks), so...
I still think its a bit weird that she held onto her crush for 4 years while never contacting him but then wants to get back together as soon as they meet again without even an explanation and i doubt that anything in the nexr few chapters will change my mind on it im ngl.

Also its nice to get her perspective but this whole flashback arc feels kinda dragged out. I almost forgot kohagara since its been so long that she was even mentioned.

well get atleast one more chapter of flashback but at this pace itll be another 4 before we get back into present day
it went from friendship to unnatural relationship for her to now turn into an obsesion (maybe??) after she didn't just lost him as a partner but also his friendship. (because this chapter her trying to fix the misunderstanding doesn't indicate that it was to date once again, but to go back to the start)
 
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I swear If lemon still ends up winning Ima flip a table
You aren't invited to dinner at my house anymore I'm just saying.

I sort of get what the author was going for, but the lack of anything even hinting at this, either from Lemon or the people surrounding Lemon, makes it tough to swallow.
Not just the lack of forewarning, but the Author isn't doing a good job of relating Lemon's mental state. She's rattling off factual statements to try to sell us on her emotional state and its not just landing. We got some very tepid examples at the start of the flashback but it was very tell-don't-show.
 
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i dont like people trying to pick sides, people trying to rationalize everything in this story, you keep getting told that the girl wasnt very confident i her own ideas back then, how she feels guilty on the happenings and when seeing the guy back in her life again she gets this insecure feel in her again
the only difference now in the story is that she got explicitly told that the guy swore off dating anyone, making that bit of guilt magnify and suddenly started wanting to make things right again, even saying stuff like how she hasnt really changed as a person still feeling like shes taking their relationship for granted as she did back then

it feels dumb when we get told that her personality and the situation as a whole are quite complex just for people to go "why didnt she just apologize" "but she JUST said that she likes him" as if this was some sort of black and white situation
 
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So who the fuck broke their leg? Its going to be another twist reveal becasue they keep blocking their face and Lemon's mother said nothing.
Author-Sensei, it works the first couple of times but now we're wise to your shennanigans and its just infuriating and an insult to our intelligence.

I'm calling its Natsumi's father and she and Lemon are step sisters.
It’s a woman in the hospital bed calling Lemon’s mom “sis.” What we don’t know is whether it’s actually Lemon’s aunt or if it’s some friend of the family who call’s Lemon’s mom “onee-san” or “nee-chan.”
 
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I don't care how many chapters you spend over-explaining it, I still don't like her.
 
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i dont like people trying to pick sides, people trying to rationalize everything in this story, you keep getting told that the girl wasnt very confident i her own ideas back then, how she feels guilty on the happenings and when seeing the guy back in her life again she gets this insecure feel in her again
the only difference now in the story is that she got explicitly told that the guy swore off dating anyone, making that bit of guilt magnify and suddenly started wanting to make things right again, even saying stuff like how she hasnt really changed as a person still feeling like shes taking their relationship for granted as she did back then

it feels dumb when we get told that her personality and the situation as a whole are quite complex just for people to go "why didnt she just apologize" "but she JUST said that she likes him" as if this was some sort of black and white situation
Yep exactly

For some reason people need it to black and white either she's a great person or an irredeemable piece of shit

Somehow the answer of it being far more complicated than that is impossible
 
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I think the author's image of who lemon was changed as the series went along, to where it no longer really made sense for who her character had become.

The character writing feels so clearly forced because it has to arrive at a conclusion that's no longer natural.

GoT season 8 type shit.

This should have been a really emotional moment for the readers, but it's just nothing, and people are left making excuses.
 
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I swear this author can take a single chapter and turn it into an entire arc. It's like some shitty magic trick.
 
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I think the author's image of who lemon was changed as the series went along, to where it no longer really made sense for who her character had become.

The character writing feels so clearly forced because it has to arrive at a conclusion that's no longer natural.
The author made us a promise in chapter one. Lemon was a monster in middle school and in the present day she’s really sweet and wonderful. We were promised an answer to this paradox. What happened to change her? Or is she still secretly a monster? Did she really have four boyfriends? How could she have been so awful to Sunao?

We’ve waited and waited to learn the answer. And we received perhaps the weakest possible reveal: it was all a misunderstanding.

It’s almost impossible to think of a less satisfying outcome. Even if middle school Lemon had been an evil robot because the real Lemon was in prison on the moon, that would have been better than what we got.
 

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