Heisei Haizanhei ☆ Sumire-chan - Vol. 6 Ch. 44 - A Woman Who Talks About Sex

[chiquit0_3107]

I believe it was in chapter 5:

MTL gave me that Sumire says he's her cousin's kid, which would make him her first cousin once removed.

Yup, itoko no ko means cousin's child. I just checked chapter 1 (both oneshot & serialized version) and she also said the same.

 

[SUPER7X]

Original text is 私と雄星はイトコだぞ (Watashi to Yuusei wa itoko da zo), lit. "Me and Yuusei are cousins, you know?"
So yeah, they are cousins, but we don't know to what degree (it's a rather vague term). I can't remember the exact chapter where this was mentioned first, it would be interesting to know if there was a more precise term than “itoko” used to describe how they are related.

I believe it was in chapter 5:

MTL gave me that Sumire says he's her cousin's kid, which would make him her first cousin once removed.

Yup, itoko no ko means cousin's child. I just checked chapter 1 (both oneshot & serialized version) and she also said the same.

Okay I remember now. She calls him both “イトコ” and “イトコの子”, but there was much discussion over the latter term. While it does literally mean “child of cousin”, it can also mean “child cousin”, as seen with the series of that very name, where they're just cousins. As such, I think the 2 options remain, with neither definitively ruled out:
1. Yuusei is Sumire's cousin. When she says “イトコ”, she is being precise, and when she says “イトコの子”, she means young/child cousin.
2. Yuusei is Sumire's 2nd-nephew (“1st-cousin once-removed” in inferior terminology). When she says “イトコ”, she is being imprecise, and when she says “イトコの子”, she is being precise.

The description calls Yuusei her “従兄弟” [itoko], a more formal way to say male cousin. Is even that used loosely?

Also, in Chapter 1, it's established that Sumire is indebted to Yuusei's mom, so if Yuusei's mom ever shows up and is established as either Sumire's cousin or Sumire's aunt, then we'll know for 100% sure.

 

[Litreara]

Okay I remember now. She calls him both “イトコ” and “イトコの子”, but there was much discussion over the latter term. While it does literally mean “child of cousin”, it can also mean “child cousin”, as seen with the series of that very name, where they're just cousins. As such, I think the 2 options remain, with neither definitively ruled out:
1. Yuusei is Sumire's cousin. When she says “イトコ”, she is being precise, and when she says “イトコの子”, she means young/child cousin.
2. Yuusei is Sumire's 2nd-nephew (“1st-cousin once-removed” in inferior terminology). When she says “イトコ”, she is being imprecise, and when she says “イトコの子”, she is being precise.

The description calls Yuusei her “従兄弟” [itoko], a more formal way to say male cousin. Is even that used loosely?

Also, in Chapter 1, it's established that Sumire is indebted to Yuusei's mom, so if Yuusei's mom ever shows up and is established as either Sumire's cousin or Sumire's aunt, then we'll know for 100% sure.

I'm pretty sure Mika-san is Yuusei's mom. In Chapter 7, Femme Fatale calls her 'Mama-san.'

Edit: It was brought to my attention by @mrboxeater that 'Mama-san' here doesn’t refer to a mother, but rather to a woman in a supervisory role at certain establishments. That said, chapter 9 makes it clear that Mika-san is Yuusei’s mother. I posted a panel from that chapter in the comments below where she says, 'My Yusei...'

Also, note that Sumire calls her Mika-san, not 'aunt,' so option 2 seems like the right one to me.

 

[chiquit0_3107]

I'm pretty sure Mika-san is Yuusei's mom. In Chapter 7, Femme Fatale calls her 'Mama-san.'

I was like 100% sure Mika is Yuusei's mom but you're starting to make me doubt lol.

Concerning the "イトコの子" thing, I'm no Japanese expert but I think the use of "の子" can never mean something else than "X's child". And if you refer to chapter 1, Sumire's calling Yuusei "イ卜コのガキ", which can be translated as "bratty cousin/cousin brat".

So considering Sumire's way of expressing herself, I think she would use this formulation to say "my cousin WHO'S a child/kid".

 

[evarie]

Well thanks for the translation as always!

 

[SUPER7X]

I'm pretty sure Mika-san is Yuusei's mom. In Chapter 7, Femme Fatale calls her 'Mama-san.'

Also, note that Sumire calls her Mika-san, not 'aunt,' so option 2 seems like the right one to me.

Oh yeah this is implied in Chapter 1 as well. I had simply not connected the character with the name & relation. His mom running the snackbar makes sense. That's how she was able to get Sumire a job there. Okay, given that and Sumire calling her “Mika-san“ out loud, then yes, I think them being cousins and Yuusei being Sumire's 2nd-nephew is most likely, despite the repeated imprecise use of “cousin”. This is the opposite of what I had been thinking, so I'm glad we had this discussion.

 

[tomatomandarine]

I was inspired to make this

 

[Litreara]

I was like 100% sure Mika is Yuusei's mom but you're starting to make me doubt lol.

I just reread Chapter 9. She's definitely his mother.

 

[mrboxeater]

I'm pretty sure Mika-san is Yuusei's mom. In Chapter 7, Femme Fatale calls her 'Mama-san.'

Also, note that Sumire calls her Mika-san, not 'aunt,' so option 2 seems like the right one to me.

Mika-san is the mom but "mama-san" is not really related to familial mother, its a term use for "female boss". If ur at a izakaya or bar, instead of saying "owner" or "manager", u can call em mamasan instead fyi.

 

[gundulgondrong]

ofc he's wanking it to sumire, but it's useless information for the plot and can be damaging to the character reputation and the manga as a whole

 

[driver]

Has anyone noticed how much Ayumi has slowly de-gyarufied each chapter ever since meeting Yusei.
Back more covered, ponytail with bows, piercings decreased, vaping instead of cigs, etc

 

[wallsg]

So they are definitely cousins? There was some translation disagreement early on; were they cousins or he her 2nd-nephew (the child of her cousin)?

Original text is 私と雄星はイトコだぞ (Watashi to Yuusei wa itoko da zo), lit. "Me and Yuusei are cousins, you know?"
So yeah, they are cousins, but we don't know to what degree (it's a rather vague term). I can't remember the exact chapter where this was mentioned first, it would be interesting to know if there was a more precise term than “itoko” used to describe how they are related.

I believe it was in chapter 5:

MTL gave me that Sumire says he's her cousin's kid, which would make him her first cousin once removed.

1st cousin once removed agrees with what I have in my notes. Looking at that panel as it is translated says nephew while Google Translate says "cousin's child" so I may have got that from someone's comment.

 

[silverpetricof]

Yusei is based. It's those little imperfections women have that highlight how attractive they can be. Moles, for example, are considered an "imperfection," and many people, myself included, find them incredibly sexy, especially if they're on certain places (a mole on one's boob(s) just melts me).

Thank you for the translation.