Haru no Regista - Vol. 2 Ch. 8.2 - God Pass!! (Part 2)

[MangaDex]

 

[kurobaraito]

I actually tried to recreate Haru's tactic here in Football Manager. Suffice to say, it's quite good but not a champion-worthy tactic. Got 4th in the 2. Bundesliga with Hertha Berlin. But it might be because the players are shit. Maybe I'll try using it in PSG or something else which is overpowered in FM.

Spoiler: tactic

Edit: oh you're using the Volante term. Nothing wrong, but I'll just say that Volante in Japan is more like a Deep-Lying Playmaker in FM, which in your translator note is correct. But FM also has its own Regista role while the 'Segunda Volante' in FM is quite different in role with the Volante used here.

 

[yoorie19]

WDYM A YURI MANGA REPRESENTS FOOTBALL BETTER THAN BLUE LOCK

 

[kkjoo]

So it's Haru no Volante. The title lied to us.

 

[yoorie19]

I actually tried to recreate Haru's tactic here in Football Manager. Suffice to say, it's quite good but not a champion-worthy tactic. Got 4th in the 2. Bundesliga with Hertha Berlin. But it might be because the players are shit. Maybe I'll try using it in PSG or something else which is overpowered in FM.

Spoiler: tactic

Edit: oh you're using the Volante term. Nothing wrong, but I'll just say that Volante in Japan is more like a Deep-Lying Playmaker in FM, which in your translator note is correct. But FM also has its own Regista role while the 'Segunda Volante' in FM is quite different in role with the Volante used here.

Yup. PR guy here. We decided to retain the volante term because even though its origin is from South America, Japanese football embraces the term tightly. I remembered that Gino from Giant Killing was described as "volante" in one match because he was shoved back to the double pivot and playing as DLP instead of his usual Trequartista role.
When I was proofreading the translation, I also checked the Segundo Volante role in FM and yes, they are quite different.
The role Haru's doing rn is closer to Regista in my view because she's the lone DM in the diamond like Pirlo used to do in Milan or Juventus.

 

[Doritos420]

still find it a little unbelievable that an ACL tear for a young teenager would be this disabling long-term. you'd fully heal at that age! I'm pretty good at not cinema sins-ing stuff I like but they're treating her like she's 35 and a couple tournaments out from signing a hundred-million-dollar contract with MLS.

 

[TheLoz5]

So it's Haru no Volante. The title lied to us.

Remember, it's the opposing team who have said that Aria is acting as Volante, not Aria. As far as I can see Volante's also make attacking runs which Haru is incapable of - this may lead to the opposing team thinking she's going to make a run as a Volante and then her throwing them off with just a pass.

 

[KajurN]

All they need to do to crush that system is have two players pressing Haru at all times and look to send the ball wide behind the fullbacks. Either way that's some crazy knowledge from Haru, way beyond what you'd expect at her age.

The reason the japanese call it Volante might have to do with Zico's influence over japanese football. Afaik the term 'regista' only really got popular worldwide after Pirlo, i don't think people called Guardiola a regista back then and before the playmaker was usually the 10 with very few notable exceptions. That said Brazilian football does not have a tradition of a playmaking defensive mid, most notable Brazilians on that role were pure destroyers, that's mostly an Italian and Spanish thing with rare exceptions.

still find it a little unbelievable that an ACL tear for a young teenager would be this disabling long-term. you'd fully heal at that age! I'm pretty good at not cinema sins-ing stuff I like but they're treating her like she's 35 and a couple tournaments out from signing a hundred-million-dollar contract with MLS.

She tore it twice, from what i know you don't get to recover a third time if you want to be able to have a normal life after because there's only so many grafts you can put on that knee. I know it's possible to allograft which is essentially using a dead body's muscle as a donor, but i think the thought of a young girl having to do that would be horrific enough that it'd make sense to just give up on playing alltogether. She'd probably have many other injuries in the future as well because of muscle imbalance and to tear it a fourth time even.

 

[yoorie19]

She tore it twice, from what i know you don't get to recover a third time if you want to be able to have a normal life after because there's only so many grafts you can put on that knee. I know it's possible to allograft which is essentially using a dead body's muscle as a donor, but i think the thought of a young girl having to do that would be horrific enough that it'd make sense to just give up on playing alltogether. She'd probably have many other injuries in the future as well because of muscle imbalance and to tear it a fourth time even.

Also her parents got divorced during her recovery. So the trauma's more unbearable than usual.

 

[Yuri_Enjoyer_Deluxe]

Playing through injury: Commendable, but good lord you will be jumped if you dont perform.

I respect the goats that try, but if its a leg or foot injury, pack it in bruh, you're a cheerleader with how limited you'll be. With that said, I wonder what can truly be done for that knee? Is it too late to sort the chronic nature?

 

[Lilliwyt]

Playing through injury: Commendable, but good lord you will be jumped if you dont perform.

I respect the goats that try, but if its a leg or foot injury, pack it in bruh, you're a cheerleader with how limited you'll be. With that said, I wonder what can truly be done for that knee? Is it too late to sort the chronic nature?

Yeah, tbh i thought she would have join as a coach, not on the field.

 

[yun1que]

I actually tried to recreate Haru's tactic here in Football Manager. Suffice to say, it's quite good but not a champion-worthy tactic. Got 4th in the 2. Bundesliga with Hertha Berlin. But it might be because the players are shit. Maybe I'll try using it in PSG or something else which is overpowered in FM.

Spoiler: tactic

Edit: oh you're using the Volante term. Nothing wrong, but I'll just say that Volante in Japan is more like a Deep-Lying Playmaker in FM, which in your translator note is correct. But FM also has its own Regista role while the 'Segunda Volante' in FM is quite different in role with the Volante used here.

Hi, FM nerd here too and no need to reply cause it's just my quirk if FM is related and imo just talking about role I think it's more suitable for:

• G(D) [Shibakura] for GK because it's an amateur team after all and ain't no way SK(A) cause GK is definitely not Neuer, Ederson, Onana (Pre Manchester United)
• IWB [Saori/Yui] is prolly on Defend mentality rather than support? Cause from being an FB(S) to an Inverted one need a lot of technical skill rather than just stamina, crossing, and pace and also it's a sudden tactical change so i don't think they're familiar with the role IWB yet
• Our girl Osanai on LCM is definitely BWM(S). I want to put BWM(D) cause she can't do none other than being a pest on defense and being anywhere like prime Kante but offense wise is so atrocious but because of Hold Position is hardcoded there, I put BWM(S)
• RCM (Asuka) is I think CM(S) much more suited or even Carillero(S) cause she's just ok as a midfielder but not spectacular defense and offense wise. She's just like Neves at PSG or Barella at Inter. Having her there is just reliable
• Striker [Mei] is as bad as my brain think she's definitely is just a Poacher, but she does have an acceptable IQ and other technical attribute than just finishing compared to her other teammate, so AF(A) is ok although throughout this 'arc' I've yet to see her does anything that resemble AF(A).

Cheers

 

[ShyGuy-096]

Also her parents got divorced during her recovery. So the trauma's more unbearable than usual.

Im gonna guess that she's actually fine to play but is being held back back the trauma of the injury, and it's mostly psychosomatic at this point

 

[kurobaraito]

Hi, FM nerd here too and no need to reply cause it's just my quirk if FM is related and imo just talking about role I think it's more suitable for:

• G(D) [Shibakura] for GK because it's an amateur team after all and ain't no way SK(A) cause GK is definitely not Neuer, Ederson, Onana (Pre Manchester United)
• IWB [Saori/Yui] is prolly on Defend mentality rather than support? Cause from being an FB(S) to an Inverted one need a lot of technical skill rather than just stamina, crossing, and pace and also it's a sudden tactical change so i don't think they're familiar with the role IWB yet
• Our girl Osanai on LCM is definitely BWM(S). I want to put BWM(D) cause she can't do none other than being a pest on defense and being anywhere like prime Kante but offense wise is so atrocious but because of Hold Position is hardcoded there, I put BWM(S)
• RCM (Asuka) is I think CM(S) much more suited or even Carillero(S) cause she's just ok as a midfielder but not spectacular defense and offense wise. She's just like Neves at PSG or Barella at Inter. Having her there is just reliable
• Striker [Mei] is as bad as my brain think she's definitely is just a Poacher, but she does have an acceptable IQ and other technical attribute than just finishing compared to her other teammate, so AF(A) is ok although throughout this 'arc' I've yet to see her does anything that resemble AF(A).

Cheers

I was looking for a 3-3-3-1 in the gameplay sense and win. That's why I chose those roles.

• GK is SK-A cause I was playing high line since FM24 is a mess if you wanna play low block and win.
• I tried IWB-D but they're not offensive enough to support play. They're there in the middle but they're just crowding. I tried switching the WCB-D into WCB-S while having IWB-D but all I got was more goals conceded so I settled for IWB-S and WCB-D.
• Why not all three as NCB? Like I said, cause I want to win with the tactic.
• Osanai moved to AMC in the second half this chapter, and she's not really a creator so AP-A doesn't fit but honestly, I've tried using everything, including the vanilla AM-A but the rating is always 6.5 so I switch it back to AP.
• The two CMs are CM-A cause if I didn't change it into A, again, they're crowding the middle and not make it 3-3-3-1. I even used move into channel and tried run wide with ball Player Instruction so at least there's some variation (Run wide instruction is shit in this tactic because all they'll do is just dribble to the flank and then lose the ball because they have no support)
• Striker is AF because I've never suceeded using any other roles in a single striker formation.

Like I said, this makes the formation a 3-3-3-1 when on 2D display and I won games (still lost to bigger teams tho). I probably can modify this further to win trophies, but I haven't yet (Still playing my main save, gonna get those stadium built)

Let's see if I can take this further later. I probably need to export the tactic and put it on FMScout or something.

Edit: Granted, I was playing with the FMTweak 1.3 match engine so some of the roles and instructions might be different in the original match engine.

 

[yun1que]

I was looking for a 3-3-3-1 in the gameplay sense and win. That's why I chose those roles.

• GK is SK-A cause I was playing high line since FM24 is a mess if you wanna play low block and win.
• I tried IWB-D but they're not offensive enough to support play. They're there in the middle but they're just crowding. I tried switching the WCB-D into WCB-S while having IWB-D but all I got was more goals conceded so I settled for IWB-S and WCB-D.
• Why not all three as NCB? Like I said, cause I want to win with the tactic.
• Osanai moved to AMC in the second half this chapter, and she's not really a creator so AP-A doesn't fit but honestly, I've tried using everything, including the vanilla AM-A but the rating is always 6.5 so I switch it back to AP.
• The two CMs are CM-A cause if I didn't change it into A, again, they're crowding the middle and not make it 3-3-3-1. I even used move into channel and tried run wide with ball Player Instruction so at least there's some variation (Run wide instruction is shit in this tactic because all they'll do is just dribble to the flank and then lose the ball because they have no support)
• Striker is AF because I've never suceeded using any other roles in a single striker formation.

Like I said, this makes the formation a 3-3-3-1 when on 2D display and I won games (still lost to bigger teams tho). I probably can modify this further to win trophies, but I haven't yet (Still playing my main save, gonna get those stadium built)

Let's see if I can take this further later. I probably need to export the tactic and put it on FMScout or something.

Edit: Granted, I was playing with the FMTweak 1.3 match engine so some of the roles and instructions might be different in the original match engine.

Ah you're making it and then using it on FM. Then it's a different case cause I just change yours to my own version based on what I've seen and interpret in the manga and that's what I got.

If you use it on FM then it's definitely unusable on top professional league especially Europe where gegenpress and stuff is the meta, where the manga tactic is basically just just a low-mid block, very high possession retention (3-6-1 on offense where 6 is literally all midfielder, no wings, width, and stuff. Literally all MID fielder giving Haru a pass option whenever she's pressed or whatever before getting it back) and then route 1 hail Mary football which definitely won't work cause this ain't non league or Bobby Charlton era football. They're in the first place trying to survive cause the talent disparity between the 2 teams is very visible and clear.

Anw, you can use https://ratemytactic.web.app/en before you use it on FM if you haven't know yet. Very useful to check if your crazy tactic will work or not.

 

[Rand00m]

Didn't expect an FM talk on a yuri football manga's forum

Also, Osanai's fetish is sure something

 

[kurobaraito]

Ah you're making it and then using it on FM. Then it's a different case cause I just change yours to my own version based on what I've seen and interpret in the manga and that's what I got.

If you use it on FM then it's definitely unusable on top professional league especially Europe where gegenpress and stuff is the meta, where the manga tactic is basically just just a low-mid block, very high possession retention (3-6-1 on offense where 6 is literally all midfielder, no wings, width, and stuff. Literally all MID fielder giving Haru a pass option whenever she's pressed or whatever before getting it back) and then route 1 hail Mary football which definitely won't work cause this ain't non league or Bobby Charlton era football. They're in the first place trying to survive cause the talent disparity between the 2 teams is very visible and clear.

Anw, you can use https://ratemytactic.web.app/en before you use it on FM if you haven't know yet. Very useful to check if your crazy tactic will work or not.

I did use the rate my tactic, but I got red on the right and left penetration score lmao. That's why I tried it in-game and surprisingly it worked, if a little hard to score like lower level league. At least it's harder to lose than to draw.

 

[sleepyk2210]

I actually tried to recreate Haru's tactic here in Football Manager. Suffice to say, it's quite good but not a champion-worthy tactic. Got 4th in the 2. Bundesliga with Hertha Berlin. But it might be because the players are shit. Maybe I'll try using it in PSG or something else which is overpowered in FM.

Spoiler: tactic

Edit: oh you're using the Volante term. Nothing wrong, but I'll just say that Volante in Japan is more like a Deep-Lying Playmaker in FM, which in your translator note is correct. But FM also has its own Regista role while the 'Segunda Volante' in FM is quite different in role with the Volante used here.

Yup. PR guy here. We decided to retain the volante term because even though its origin is from South America, Japanese football embraces the term tightly. I remembered that Gino from Giant Killing was described as "volante" in one match because he was shoved back to the double pivot and playing as DLP instead of his usual Trequartista role.
When I was proofreading the translation, I also checked the Segundo Volante role in FM and yes, they are quite different.
The role Haru's doing rn is closer to Regista in my view because she's the lone DM in the diamond like Pirlo used to do in Milan or Juventus.

Segundo Volante means the second midfielder, or in Brazil it means the second pivot. Double pivot should be a deeper one + a more dynamic one. The dynamic one is Segundo Volante in FM. The Japanese either seemingly think the deeper pivot in Brazilian football means a DLP/Regista; or they just take the word meaning at face value (volante literally means steering wheel, so Volante in football means someone who "steers" the team a.k.a the primary playmaker).
This is purely my assumption based on my knowledge, hope some native Brazillians or someone who have extensive knowledge about this can explain more properly.

 

[dupi]

I know volante from reading Captain Tsubasa Road to 2002 as that was Pep Grandioz position, and regista from Fantasista. In Football Manager I rarely set a regista even when using defensive midfielder, instead I put double central midfielder with one being deep lying playmaker and defending (I usually put the one that can also play as defensive midfielder) and one as box to box midfielder. These players are the fastest to get tired but they do well in balancing the attacking and defending sides.

 

[dupi]

Didn't expect an FM talk on a yuri football manga's forum

Also, Osanai's fetish is sure something

Yeah hahaha. I am glad I am not the only football manager player or any other football games player who read this too.