Daredemo Dakeru Kimi ga Suki - Ch. 69 - What Is This?

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So belligerent, why do you feel the need to insult me?? Anyone liking a manga, even a trash one like this, and talking about it at length, or even having similar thoughts to mine or yours, doesn't make one a loser.
Apologies, the loser comment was directed at myself not you, and when I called myself a loser I was just joking - throwing jabs and being slightly antagonistic is just my sense of humour. It was an oversight on my part to expect you to get it though since this is the first time I've ever interacted with you.
I too was laughing at Inukai's imminent L, praying for it if anything. And I have already stated that, yes, this series is a heap of trash. Just because I have a different opinion, or am a little more invested than others, doesnt make me, you, or anyone else in the same boat, a moron. Just because others are laughing and not really discussing it in further detail just means they aren't as invested or immersed as we are, and that's completely fine. Doesnt make them more "well-adjusted" than us. A "well-adjusted person knows that people have their own interests and are free to discuss them at length if they want. The weird and non-adjusted person is the one who is overly judgmental about something they claim not to care about
The whole well-adjusted stuff was once again just throwing jabs at the two of us, it's like how people call themselves or others degenerates when referring to ero stuff, they don't actually think lowly of themselves or others however it could be a case of me phrasing it much more rudely than most other people lol.
Also, I don't think I've mentioned this before, but I really only got invested when Akito was introduced, mostly around chapter 60. With the implication of chapter 60 and the vagueness and uncertainty between chapter 60 - 66 is what had me on edge because I like Akito and although I wanted the dumbass MC to treat her better, I simultaneously did not want to see her with Inukai, or anyone else for that matter since Gotou also liked her. (reasons mentioned in @18thMoon comment)
seeing how strongly you feel about Akito relative to any other character I'm not too surprised.
This one was slightly passive-aggressive. FIRST: There is no need to be embarrassed.

1: We are incognito, so it's not like I, or anyone else, knows who you are irl.

2: You can be invested, immersed, or curious about a manga; you aren't harming anyone, it doesn't make you a loser, and its only natural to dive deeper and make predictions once you are curious, immersed, and/or invested.
I'm not actually embarassed lol, I just thought it was funny I reached the comment limit discussing this manga and had to make two separate comments. I was anticipating for people to insult and get a few laughs out of it tbh since I don't take things like that too seriously. This isn't to say that I'm not also quite immersed in this manga, it's been stuck in my head for the past few weeks and I check the comments almost daily because I love watching people discuss the manga, that's the reason why I chose to make a massive response to you because I was happy to see someone who can openly verbalise all of the thoughts they have and what they are anticipating from a manga like this.
SECOND: Why do you feel the need to bring up being normal and well-adjusted? Can't I (we) just discuss a manga and make our harmless predictions because that's simply what comes to mind once we read the latest chapter?

You don't know me at all, so why say I'm not a normal well adjusted guy just for sharing my thoughts after reading a manga that I'm rather interested in? (even if that manga is a heap of trash). I literally make these (Paragraphs) late at night, when I'm home from work, and literally minutes after I read the latest chapter, I have a normal life dude. You and I aren't losers, weird, morons, or not well adjusted for simply making predictions and discussing a manga.

Its as harmless as you think. Just me reading a chapter and maybe it does get to me, but overall i just think "Wow, I wonder what could happen next", and then i share what I think. I've already recognized that the alt ending that I would want is not likely to happen. I mistakenly got immersed in this manga, and it became a guilty pleasure. Most "normal & well-adjusted guys" understand that people have interests and are free to discuss them, even if its a trash one like this. Not saying you said we couldn't, but you shouldn't be embarrassed, if it's a manga you're invested in, that's fine. No harm is done, and you're allowed to discuss it and make predictions.

If you're invested, immersed, or curious like i am, then there's no need to feel embarrassed about that.

This got rather personal, but to sum this up, me, you, or anyone else can discuss this manga or any other manga at length and not be morons, and not well adjusted, im a normal guy WITH a social life, and yes, normal people can like manga, get invested, and talk about it. I've literally seen women talk about their smut romance novels at length and didn't think of them as weird, just them having an interest in something that I wouldn't personally be interested in. This is literally no different.
My bad bro I was just joking 😭.
With that said, it seems like you're the opposite of me and want more NTR. As i was typing this, I thought it was because you were a cuck and liked it, but realized that wasn't the case. It seems you want it more as a plot device to make Gotou pay for his decisions and make him think things through. All your points seem to be tethered to the fact that you are anti-goutou and would like more NTR and drama to spite him or make him develop as a character, hopefully I'm correct in this assessment, if im not please feel free to correct me. You already know my stance, even if Inukai becomes some sort of good guy after this, I personally would like for this to be his exit from the series, and would not like him and Akito together on any level or capacity. There most definitely will be some more drama that includes Inukai after this, and although i wish for something more wholesome, I've also accepted that and have braced myself for the worst (kind of).
I wouldn't say I'm anti-Gotou since I like him as a protagonist even if my points seem to indicate I want him to suffer. You're right that I'm not a cuck otherwise I'd probably be self-inserting into Inukai but its true that I want Gotou to go through some hardship, I like that Gotou can be a bad guy who makes reprehensible decisions as it makes him more unique as a protagonist. I like characters with striking personalities, especially if its entertaining which is why I like Inukai, both Gotou and Inukai are people I wouldn't like in real life but they are also people who can create drama and end up being funny so in fiction I like characters like them.

I don't want to spite him on its own, while I'll admit that seeing Gotou get temporarily heartbroken or distraught is something I'm not against, it's only because Takeda will probably present it in a funny and over the top way similar to what's going on to Inukai. If Takeda presented it in typical NTR fashion where it was all depressing and sad then I would be against it since it's no longer funny. For the most part the NTR ideas are all just for Gotou to learn from how selfish his mindset is, I think the best way to achieve this is for Akito to make the choice since Gotou will be forced to confront the fact that he can't make Akito exclusive if he doesn't commit to her in any way - even if we get into territory I don't like such as Gotou telling Akito to be his girlfriend or only fuck him while he fucks other girls, as long as he verbalises it and Akito agrees I'm fine with it (this would be so shit though since Akito has been waiting years for Gotou just for him to keep her to himself while he can have the freedom to have sex with anyone else).
I'm honestly speechless at this. Like i said, you are more than free to have your own opinion. But finding the least desirable outcomes fun and interesting is wild to me. I can't really criticize or even berate you because it's simply what you find to be entertaining, so we'd just have to agree to disagree here. All I can say is that it's not what I want to happen, more so for Akito's sake and semi for Gotou's. I'm all for the wish fulfillment, Gotou getting the girls he likes/wants, Akito not being slutted out, etc. I don't know what this looks like, but if Akito ends up not being endgame along with Agawa (most likely that won't happen), then I'm all for her having a wholesome resolution and exiting the series on a high note. I'd prefer drama in different ways from here on out, but that's just what I want. Unlike you, I find her "purity/innocence" to be cute and the only redeeming thing about this series, and thats the driving factor behind not wanting her to be corrupted/slutted out.
I guess that makes sense, I was expecting a bit more pushback due to how opposed we are in views and since I'm up for a discussion but it makes sense that we won't really be changing each other's minds anytime soon. But you can berate me if you want, I promise I won't get upset.
Also im not sure Akito knows that he had a threesome with Agawa and Shina, plus I don't think its in character for her to do a get back or equalizer type thing. While hanging out with Agawa, we see that she obviously sees sex as something to do with someone you like, And we dont know if she likes Inukai like she likes Gotou, if they were meeting up in the 2 weeks we didn't see, then maybe they had gotten close but we wont know until we see her side. Also as im typing and reading your response, I see that you're anti-Gotou but not really anti-Inukai. Personally, I'm for Inukai taking overt Ls. That last part of your message is just another thing we'd have to agree to disagree on, i wouldn't find it funny, only more heartaching tbh . Hopefully Gotou gets character development in another way other than having to witness Akito being plowed by another dude.
That first part was an oversight on my part, I don't think she does know (no reason for anyone to tell her) but I still think it would be a funny parallel. I don't think Akito would have the threesome for the sake of an equaliser though, I was thinking that she would be mirroring Gotou when he agreed to the threesome even though he was only really interested in Agawa back then with Gotou seeing himself in Akito and realising how Agawa may have felt when she reluctantly had a threesome with him and her sister.

Like I said above, I'm not really anti-Gotou and more so just like to see him go through tough times, I want to see every character take Ls once in awhile whether it's Gotou in getting cucked, Agawa in getting the guy she's interested in fucked by her sister or Shina getting rejected in a threesome and her plans to cuck foiled (although this is non-canon unfortunately). In regards to Inukai I'm not really anti-Inukai, every L he takes is stuff he does to himself so liking Inukai means liking the Ls he takes too.

If I'm pro anyone im probably pro-Shina since she's my favourite character, I like how she is incredibly intelligent despite simultaneously being a super slut and the fact that she is the second worst character morally behind Inukai (or maybe third since teachers apparently fuck students in this manga lol), by being obsessed with breaking her sister's heart and stopping her from ever wanting to make deeper connections - the malice and over the top nature of it makes her so entertaining to me. In general I like antagonistic characters more so I always find myself liking bad guys in stories in general since they can easily bring drama or drive conflict in the story.
 
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THANK YOU!! FUCK!!, You summed it up and put it into words so beautifully, it got me over hear jumping for joy. I cannot believe the amount of people who want to see Akito slutted out/revenge NTR, either for entertainment purposes, or simply because they are anti gotou. You're right, I'm not excusing what Gotou is doing is bad in a way, the way that it would hurt Akito (maybe). But everything you said was right on the money. You managed to see the nuance that so many people seem to be missing.

I even mention that Gotou knows what he is doing is bad, with him mentionaing how he couldnt even put it into words, all he could do was be honest. He likes Shina, Akito, and Agawa. Due to me being a certified Inukai hater, I'm for Gotou being selfish. I even feel like Inukai tried to get him to stop by, bringing up how he likes Agawa, and Akito. Basically trying to use his feelings against him like he was doing to Akito. He used Akito's love for Gotou against her while targeting her, and tried to do the same to Gotou but it backfired. I think that just goes to show that Inukai is as manipulative as we think he is and deserves this. This is why i have no sympathy for him and I am all fall Gotou cucking him, and being selfish, wanting to have sex with Shina, Akito, and Agawa, etc.

I. CANNOT. STRESS. HOW PERFECTLY YOU PUT THIS. This is 100% how I'm feeling. What Gotou is doing is justified in my eyes, and I'm all for him wanting to not share Akito with others for the reasons you mentioned. It's like, we already knew that was the case with Agawa. She literally tries getting Gotou more sex friends in order to kind of get him off of her so she can do it with others. But for Akito, its completely different. Knowing this still might not change that we may get some rather undesirable scenes/outcomes in the next few chapters, but HOLY, you said it perfectly.
I fully understand that what Gotou did could easily backfire on him. If Akito-chan is really looking to get revenge, then sure, she could go down the path of sleeping with Inukai just to get back at him.

However, I don’t think that’s the case.

The way the story has been laid out so far, Gotou has already been exposed to that kind of pain through Agawa-san. So if Akito-chan were to go down that same path, it would kind of defeat the purpose. It wouldn’t push his development forward, it would just repeat a lesson he already learned.

What I do think is going to happen, though, is that if word gets out about Gotou sleeping with the President, his reputation is about to skyrocket.

Think about it: when we first met the President, she was tapping dudes out. Nobody could hang with her. Now, Gotou is the one forcing her to tap out, making her squirt, making her give up. His rep from that alone is going to be insane.

And the last thing Inukai wants is to be caught up in that narrative, to be remembered as the dude who was forced sat there and watched Gotou have sex with the President right in front of him. That’s a reputation killer. He’s not going to say a word because saying something would mean admitting he got cucked. So unless the President herself starts talking about what happened, I don’t see Akito-chan finding out from anyone else.

Like I said, it could easily blow up, but I really believe the only person who would spread that information is the President herself. Gotou made her tap out. There’s no way around that. If Inukai is aiming to go full villain and expose everything just to hurt Gotou, then maybe, sure, it could happen. And if word did get back to Akito-chan, then yeah, I could absolutely see her plotting revenge. That would make sense.

But I just don’t think that’s where the story’s going.

I think moving forward, Gotou is going to carry himself differently. He’ll interact with Agawa-san and the President with a new kind of confidence. And more importantly, I think he’s going to start treating Akito-chan better than he ever did before.

Also, since Gotou’s been trained by the President to take his mind off sex, I’m curious how Agawa-san is going to respond to that. She usually flirts with him, so I wonder if he’ll have enough resolve to not fall for it. And if he does, I wonder what kind of mindset that will put her in.

If word about what happened gets back to her, she might be shocked to realize that Gotou actually took her advice—to get more sex friends. And once she finds out he made the President tap out? That’s going to be very interesting to watch unfold.

But hey, that’s just my opinion.
 
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Im not opposed to that happening. If you read @18thMoon comment, you can kind of see that Takeda has made Gotou explore his feelings more in a rather... unique way. I'd say it here, but the 18ths comment sums it up perfectly. I wouldnt be oppose to more ways for Akito to make Gotou have some realizations and explore his feelings more, just not in the revenge NTR, slut her out way.
I get that but I feel that the ridiculous sex scenarios are part of the series so I kinda hope the result isn't so vanilla otherwise I'd just read some love triangle romcom or something.
I mean no offense to you, i don't mean this to spite you or be rude, but just hearing the word "Like Inukai" makes me barf🤮. I suppose you like his presence because he adds drama, but as you can see, i can't like him in any capacity😂 . Im a certified and proud Inukai hater, which is only going to make any potential revenge NTR, Inukai x Akito route even more painful😭
I don't mind you being rude lol since I started it anyways, regardless you're right that I like Inukai due to the drama he adds. I'll have to proudly (since it can't be embarassed anymore) say I'm the one Inukai fan amongst a sea of haters and as long as he stays in the series to stir things up I'll be happy.
I kept asking myself why you didnt like Akito, but you did mention because you read this series for sluts not virgin pure girls. Plus, you dont like that she likes Gotou, the MC you (rightfully) seem opposed to.
I just don't like vanilla girls, it's what drew me to this series since Agawa was a unique female protagonist to me since this was the first manga I've read about a main character being in love with a slut and I liked that Agawa seemingly just liked that lifestyle as it made her unique. Akito's are a dime a dozen and so boring and dull to me.
For me, its like, how can you not like her, she was/is the only redeeming quality/character in this braindead gooner series. Takeda, of course, did this on purpose. Probably because he is gearing up to have her corrupted😭. But it's the way she is that makes this whole situation/arc so suspenseful
I came here for gooner characters not wholesome ones 😾.
Could you explain more? irl girls have many types, and guys who would be plain to us (dudes), would be among those types. Plus, its more than just looks, it's the time they spent together doing what they loved most back in the day, baseball. Taking everything into account, her having a crush on him and liking him is pretty normal, dare i say realistic. So how would she be a bum for liking him? Plus how exactly did you understand her? Im confused in that regard.
Gotou throughout the story is kinda just a guy of all time, he doesn't seem to have hobbies besides jerking off, he also doesn't appear smart either and this is because he doesn't try to realise his full potential (when he tries he can get insanely high scores). He is someone who doesn't have standout qualities nor tries to have them when it counts (only tried when he got punished for being dumb and not revising and to get revenge on someone), it leads to Akito liking him feeling too convenient because there doesn't seem to be anything to like about him.

However, you managed to change my mind and make the score 1-0 to you since I overlooked their backstory. The two of them were playing baseball together and while my memory isn't too clear on it (since I was hating on Akito back then), I think Akito admired Gotou's persistance despite not being the best at baseball as well as Gotou being friendly to her while they played their shared hobby which in retrospect is more than enough of a reason for a teenage girl to have crush on someone. As a result I will rescind my statement of her being a bum.

However, if Gotou chooses to keep being a loser and doesn't get any hobbies or have any redeeming traits that a girl can realistically like about him then I will return back to calling Akito a bum. In regards to the understanding Akito bit I was just making a joke about how she secretly watched Gotou similarly to how I would secretly lurk in the comments and enjoy reading yours. In the same way Akito made a move and approached Gotou, I decided to make a direct reply to you.
This must have slipped my mind, but how did he prove the prez right? which chapter? I semi-agree, these are some valid
The prez thought she could take any guy that Agawa wanted and make them like her and steal them away from Agawa. Pre-redraw he only fucked Agawa and proved her wrong when he could have easily fucked her and Agawa was even not overtly against it. Post-redraw he fucks both of them and we find out that any girl he fucks he says he loves and eagerly goes on to have a threesome because he's presented with the opportunity given to him by the president. This all happens during the threesome chapters (so around chapter 30-35ish) although I'm not sure if the backstory of Shina fucking guys who liked Agawa still remains since I remember it in the original chapters but I skimmed through the new threesome chapters so idk if its still a thing.
reasons to dislike Gotou, my reasons are more so for his indecisiveness and lack of a spine. Agawa literally told him she was going off to fuck some guy with a lot of stamina, and despite her being the girl he likes, he just couldnt say anything. Same for when he ran into Akito and Inukai at the festival, his inability to just form a fucking sentence was so annoying. Plus a swath of dumbass decisions, the biggest one being taking Akito's virginity and then ghosting her afterwards in the name of studying.
I agree on this part that these behaviours are dislikable although I think these flaws can be quite funny like him being speechless while Agawa tells him to his face she's going to fuck someone else. I know it sounds like I hate Gotou but I just find it funny how Takeda presents it 😭
Also I think he does care about Agawa, this is just all he knows about her, she likes sex. He wants her to only do it with her, so every moment he's doing her, means she isn't doing it with others. Plus he himself needs to be put in horny jail, but it also kind of makes sense, he was a teenage virgin who just lost his virginity to the girl he liked, a girl who is a slut and pretty good at sex. Its only natural he'd become addicted and ruled by the wrong head. Your reasons for disliking him are valid, but this is just me playing devil's advocate and giving some justifications for his actions. Its realistic for this to happen to a teen. We cant expect him to act like a full-on adult, that'd be unrealistic
I agree completely with the last part that it's realistic for him to behave this way which is why I decided to accept the new Gotou. However I disagree that he loves Agawa and think he's just infatuated with her (along with the president and Akito), if he loved them he wouldn't just have sex with Agawa to stop her from having sex with other guys but actively try to get to know her to try and find her interests so he can spend time doing that with her on top of sex to make him a much more viable partner for her compared to guys who only give her sex since they are compatible in that regard. If he loved Akito it would be the easiest win for him if he used the passion she had for baseball and either got back into the sport because he loved her or try in anyway to engage with her using baseball as a good starting spot to know her better since they actually have fucking history. As for the president, bro just kept calling her cute after the threesome while saying he loves Agawa.
I've already mentioned that the ending I want is not likely to happen, what you responded to were thoughts that came to my head about what could happen next, thoughts I had after I read this latest chapter. I'm most likely wrong, but I thought it was worth sharing what I was thinking.
And I'm happy to keep responding to your thoughts since they are interesting and worth sharing.
 
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The main consensus used to justify Gotou’s action without prior knowledge of what Inukai withheld was his actions on the beach from what I’ve seen. It was never a factor in Gotou’s plan, it was all premeditated in the grand scheme of things. Whether the trip would’ve brought camaraderie between them or not. Inukai would still be tortured for no other reason then sending a message, pretty ruthless and kind of overlooked honestly.

By no means is Inukai a “good person”, doubt anyone in this story will be or remain a saint if Takeda-sensei has any say in it. What defined Inukai was how vain he was moreso than the threat to Gotou he no longer poses. I feel like Takeda could have used Inukai a little better if he intends to keep using him. He started as comedic relief with some strong irony. A self proclaimed rival none of the main took seriously powerless in this circle, which drew him into the cast despite his higher social status than Gotou earning his ire. Now he’s just a gaslighting grapepist with no purpose and is a proverbial nail in the coffin. As our current antagonist, as well as the story’s sense of stakes progressing the plot for some Gotou supplement if his role doesn’t end here.

His reaction to Akito’s uncomfortable reaction to seeing Gotou and Shiina at the festival was unexpected, and could have added more to his character than being a one-note nympho egomaniac. Not saying there was potential redemption, but some potential and subverted expectations were lost none the less.
No ones painting mc as a saint either but the reason why we're overlooking what mc is doing is because the person he's doing it to has been an irredeemable asshole ever since we've been introduced to him, he was never a funny rival. So it's not hard to see why the people here don't feel sorry for him in the slightest.
 
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No ones painting mc as a saint either but the reason why we're overlooking what mc is doing is because the person he's doing it to has been an irredeemable asshole ever since we've been introduced to him, he was never a funny rival. So it's not hard to see why the people here don't feel sorry for him in the slightest.
First I used “saint” as a hyperbolic expression, not as a superlative describing any of the cast’s alignment. Second I’d argue Inukai is a funny character as he is comedic relief, not because he himself is “funny” but as the series “butt monkey”. Meaning all the comedy contributed from the character is all at his expense.

Nobody apart from Gotou and to an extent Akito has taken him seriously usually not even entertaining anything outlandish he’s said with even a response. Establishing his pathetic position in the group despite his status, providing dramatic irony with a comedic effect. Inukai has said he’s also after Agawa and Shiina, indirectly competing with Gotou hence I can’t stress this enough “self-proclaimed” rival.
 
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First I used “saint” as a hyperbolic expression, not as a superlative describing of the cast’s alignment. Second I’d argue Inukai is a funny character as he is comedic relief, not because he himself is “funny” but as the series “butt monkey”. Meaning all the comedy contributed from the character is all at his expense.

Nobody apart from Gotou and to an extent Akito has taken him seriously usually not even entertaining anything outlandish he’s said with even a response. Establishing his pathetic position in the group despite his status, providing dramatic irony with a comedic effect. Inukai has said he’s also after Agawa and Shiina, indirectly competing with Gotou hence I can’t stress this enough “self-proclaimed” rival.

Also not sure how you got Inukai’s personality is why this went down. Any ego death inflicted to him in this incident is an outlier to Gotou’s goal. Claiming Akito for himself and warning him to back off, the actual reason this is all going down.
I never claimed his personality is the reason Gotou plotted against him? like what? I said we the people have been fed up with his intrusive and unlikeable character long before he tried going after Akito, though the events that happened between him and Akito was just a multiplier.

No where in my comment did I say mc was justified for what he did nor did I say Inuka's asshole behavior prior to the beach and shrine incidents is why mc is doing all this. I legit already told you the reason was petty.
 
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I never claimed his personality is the reason Gotou plotted against him? like what? I said we the people have been fed up with his intrusive and unlikeable character long before he tried going after Akito, though the events that happened between him and Akito was just a multiplier.

No where in my comment did I say mc was justified for what he did nor did I say Inuka's asshole behavior prior to the beach and shrine incidents is why mc is doing all this. I legit already told you the reason was petty.
Yeah that last part I ended up omitting and I guess it didn’t go through. I misread the last part of your previous response which is entirely on me.
 
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I get that but I feel that the ridiculous sex scenarios are part of the series so I kinda hope the result isn't so vanilla otherwise I'd just read some love triangle romcom or something.

I don't mind you being rude lol since I started it anyways, regardless you're right that I like Inukai due to the drama he adds. I'll have to proudly (since it can't be embarassed anymore) say I'm the one Inukai fan amongst a sea of haters and as long as he stays in the series to stir things up I'll be happy.

I just don't like vanilla girls, it's what drew me to this series since Agawa was a unique female protagonist to me since this was the first manga I've read about a main character being in love with a slut and I liked that Agawa seemingly just liked that lifestyle as it made her unique. Akito's are a dime a dozen and so boring and dull to me.

I came here for gooner characters not wholesome ones 😾.

Gotou throughout the story is kinda just a guy of all time, he doesn't seem to have hobbies besides jerking off, he also doesn't appear smart either and this is because he doesn't try to realise his full potential (when he tries he can get insanely high scores). He is someone who doesn't have standout qualities nor tries to have them when it counts (only tried when he got punished for being dumb and not revising and to get revenge on someone), it leads to Akito liking him feeling too convenient because there doesn't seem to be anything to like about him.

However, you managed to change my mind and make the score 1-0 to you since I overlooked their backstory. The two of them were playing baseball together and while my memory isn't too clear on it (since I was hating on Akito back then), I think Akito admired Gotou's persistance despite not being the best at baseball as well as Gotou being friendly to her while they played their shared hobby which in retrospect is more than enough of a reason for a teenage girl to have crush on someone. As a result I will rescind my statement of her being a bum.

However, if Gotou chooses to keep being a loser and doesn't get any hobbies or have any redeeming traits that a girl can realistically like about him then I will return back to calling Akito a bum. In regards to the understanding Akito bit I was just making a joke about how she secretly watched Gotou similarly to how I would secretly lurk in the comments and enjoy reading yours. In the same way Akito made a move and approached Gotou, I decided to make a direct reply to you.

The prez thought she could take any guy that Agawa wanted and make them like her and steal them away from Agawa. Pre-redraw he only fucked Agawa and proved her wrong when he could have easily fucked her and Agawa was even not overtly against it. Post-redraw he fucks both of them and we find out that any girl he fucks he says he loves and eagerly goes on to have a threesome because he's presented with the opportunity given to him by the president. This all happens during the threesome chapters (so around chapter 30-35ish) although I'm not sure if the backstory of Shina fucking guys who liked Agawa still remains since I remember it in the original chapters but I skimmed through the new threesome chapters so idk if its still a thing.

I agree on this part that these behaviours are dislikable although I think these flaws can be quite funny like him being speechless while Agawa tells him to his face she's going to fuck someone else. I know it sounds like I hate Gotou but I just find it funny how Takeda presents it 😭

I agree completely with the last part that it's realistic for him to behave this way which is why I decided to accept the new Gotou. However I disagree that he loves Agawa and think he's just infatuated with her (along with the president and Akito), if he loved them he wouldn't just have sex with Agawa to stop her from having sex with other guys but actively try to get to know her to try and find her interests so he can spend time doing that with her on top of sex to make him a much more viable partner for her compared to guys who only give her sex since they are compatible in that regard. If he loved Akito it would be the easiest win for him if he used the passion she had for baseball and either got back into the sport because he loved her or try in anyway to engage with her using baseball as a good starting spot to know her better since they actually have fucking history. As for the president, bro just kept calling her cute after the threesome while saying he loves Agawa.

And I'm happy to keep responding to your thoughts since they are interesting and worth sharing.
My response is hella late, but i got a big ass response that ill be sending over in a moment
 
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The first page of chapter 69 is them doing the 69.
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I can't believe ppl genuinely feel bad for Inukai, he's literally scum and has been forcing his way into Gotou's life just so he can have sex with the President. He's been spiteful and vindictive to Gotou this whole time and finally got what he deserved 🔥🔥
 
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Apologies, the loser comment was directed at myself not you, and when I called myself a loser I was just joking - throwing jabs and being slightly antagonistic is just my sense of humour. It was an oversight on my part to expect you to get it though since this is the first time I've ever interacted with you.
My response is hella late, and my apologies as well, i didn't want to make it seem like I was attacking you. We're all positivity here. I like to think that our "paragraphs" on this dumpster fire are entertaining to those who read them after reading the latest chapter and probably have similar thoughts, but never share them.
That first part was an oversight on my part, I don't think she does know (no reason for anyone to tell her) but I still think it would be a funny parallel. I don't think Akito would have the threesome for the sake of an equaliser though, I was thinking that she would be mirroring Gotou when he agreed to the threesome even though he was only really interested in Agawa back then with Gotou seeing himself in Akito and realising how Agawa may have felt when she reluctantly had a threesome with him and her sister.

Like I said above, I'm not really anti-Gotou and more so just like to see him go through tough times, I want to see every character take Ls once in awhile whether it's Gotou in getting cucked, Agawa in getting the guy she's interested in fucked by her sister or Shina getting rejected in a threesome and her plans to cuck foiled (although this is non-canon unfortunately). In regards to Inukai I'm not really anti-Inukai, every L he takes is stuff he does to himself so liking Inukai means liking the Ls he takes too.

If I'm pro anyone im probably pro-Shina since she's my favourite character, I like how she is incredibly intelligent despite simultaneously being a super slut and the fact that she is the second worst character morally behind Inukai (or maybe third since teachers apparently fuck students in this manga lol), by being obsessed with breaking her sister's heart and stopping her from ever wanting to make deeper connections - the malice and over the top nature of it makes her so entertaining to me. In general I like antagonistic characters more so I always find myself liking bad guys in stories in general since they can easily bring drama or drive conflict in the story.
I see where you're coming from this. I think that Gotou's threesome with Agawa and Shina was something that Agawa didn't really mind all that much due to a few reasons. 1: Shina said it herself that Agawa was a masochist, so she probably even enjoyed it to a degree. 2: She was literally trying to hook Gotou up with more sex friends so that he would kind of leave her alone so she could have sex with her sex friends more. 3: It is probably more so just flashbacks she gets from Shina getting every boy she likes obsessed with her, and less so of Gotou having sex with her. Probably her thinking Gotou will just be the same, it did look like she was rather jealous during the threesome, but I don't think she didn't enjoy it. I'll have to go back and read it to get a better grasp of it. Regardless, I personally dont think it'd make sense for her to mirror Gotou by accepting a threesome with Inukai and Gotou, nor do i think it'd happen, though, unfortunately, it's not impossible.

You already know my stance, I want some sort of wish fulfillment wholesome resolution with Akito, I don't mind drama, but HOOLLYYY, this Inukai and Akito, and the whole Akito being on the verge of corruption is too heavy for my heart. It's like I don't mind drama, but I'd also prefer a different type of drama. If everything ends up being okay with Akito not being slutted out, having sex with Inukai, or having had sex with him in the 2 weeks, then ill be okay with this drama, it was good enough to spike emotions, I'll admit that, but only if everything is resolved wholesomely. It's like that'd be the only redeeming quality of this series. Sadly, I dont see it happening that way. I can't help but feel like Takeda is gearing up for something that would probably be more of what you wanted and not what I wanted. If that happens I swear I'm going to crash out. 😭

What sucks even more is that i think we'll have to wait till next week, we might get a 69.5 extra chapters where nothing really happens. I hope im wrong in this.😭

Im for Gotou wanting all three of them for himself and not wanting them to do it with others, double standards be damned, though i dont think thats likely. Not for Shina because she is a slut who likes cuckolding so even if something serious were to happen between her and Gotou, she would just eventually cuck him. I can slightly see it happening with Agawa because she is unsatisfied with her sex friends at the moment, plus she is canonically endgame, plus this next arc may be where we see some romantic feelings/progression happen. But slightly because i mention this below but ill mention it here, In chapter 33 she kind of bitched Gotou by coldly rejecting him and he just kind of accepted that she was going to go have sex with another. This kind of adds to your point that he doesnt really love her, i touch on that below.

I can definitely see it happening with Akito because that's just her character, she already knows he has sex with other girls, and literally offered to have sex with him, if it got him to come back to baseball. She can become addicted to sex easily as Agawa stated in this chapter, and she could easily do that with Gotou if he asserts his desire for her, therefore making her exlusive to him. she isnt canonically endgame so sadly the only way i see her making an exit is by being slutted out and Gotou viewing her differently, or her becoming a slut and forgetting about Gotou, therefore making what Agawa said true, she'd become a girl addicted to sex and used by many. Or Gotou rejects her, mirroring what Agawa did to him in chapter 33, but more so for Akito's sake if anything.

If you look at chapters 42 and 43, you can get a good grasp on Akito's character and see that she'd be down for quite a lot if it were for Gotou, and probably not as judgmental as people are who project their judgments, thinking it'd be hers. Its just not incharacter for her, she is so naive, innocnet (in a good way) and likes Gotou, that a threesome would be a thumbs up, hell maybe even being in a throuple dynamic could work with some persuasion, (Maybe, There may be a little pushback on that now that i think of it, but you get what I mean). Though that's not likely to happen, even if I want it with a burning desire.

I, of course, don't want her slutted out, and if she is to exit the series, i prefer she did it on a wholesome high note. But its definitely in character for her, she'd see Gotou having sex with Shina as more of competition (as she did in this chapter when Agawa gave her the condom) instead of being hurt like Gotou would if she had sex with Inukai, or any other for that matter, That's not to say she wouldn't be hurt, just less so than how Gotou would feel if she did it with another. This is because she already knows Gotou has sex with other girls, but Gotou doesn't see her having sex with other guys, she's the pure innocent childhood friend, so he doesnt want her to do that, Its clear he doesnt see her like he sees Agawa and Shina, they're both sluts, but to Gotou (and us), Akito isnt like that. Therefore, im hoping this arc will make him be assertive and "make her exclusive", and not mirror what happened in chapter 33. I don't know how that'd play out, I hope it happens with Akito largely untouched by other guys, but I think Takeda will be taking a different, more more drama-filled, potentially undesirable direction.😭😔
 
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The prez thought she could take any guy that Agawa wanted and make them like her and steal them away from Agawa. Pre-redraw he only fucked Agawa and proved her wrong when he could have easily fucked her and Agawa was even not overtly against it. Post-redraw he fucks both of them and we find out that any girl he fucks he says he loves and eagerly goes on to have a threesome because he's presented with the opportunity given to him by the president. This all happens during the threesome chapters (so around chapter 30-35ish) although I'm not sure if the backstory of Shina fucking guys who liked Agawa still remains since I remember it in the original chapters but I skimmed through the new threesome chapters so idk if its still a thing.
This is also true; it seems that the storyline of Shina stealing guys away from Agawa was mentioned, in some dialgoue free panels. Also, there is something interesting to discuss here. Agawa, Gotou, and Shina went to a mysterious man's house. Whose house? Agawa mentioned she didn't like him all that much, and then Shina said he was at work, so it was fine, meaning that he is an older guy, and we know both Agawa and Shina have no problem doing older guys. Who could that mystery man be? A taboo sex friend relationship? A stepfamily member? I think its where Shina officially lives, since she has cosplay outfits there. These questions were left unanswered, and they pop into my head from time to time when I think of this manga

Gotou throughout the story is kinda just a guy of all time, he doesn't seem to have hobbies besides jerking off, he also doesn't appear smart either and this is because he doesn't try to realise his full potential (when he tries he can get insanely high scores). He is someone who doesn't have standout qualities nor tries to have them when it counts (only tried when he got punished for being dumb and not revising and to get revenge on someone), it leads to Akito liking him feeling too convenient because there doesn't seem to be anything to like about him.

However, you managed to change my mind and make the score 1-0 to you since I overlooked their backstory. The two of them were playing baseball together and while my memory isn't too clear on it (since I was hating on Akito back then), I think Akito admired Gotou's persistance despite not being the best at baseball as well as Gotou being friendly to her while they played their shared hobby which in retrospect is more than enough of a reason for a teenage girl to have crush on someone. As a result I will rescind my statement of her being a bum.

However, if Gotou chooses to keep being a loser and doesn't get any hobbies or have any redeeming traits that a girl can realistically like about him then I will return back to calling Akito a bum. In regards to the understanding Akito bit I was just making a joke about how she secretly watched Gotou similarly to how I would secretly lurk in the comments and enjoy reading yours. In the same way Akito made a move and approached Gotou, I decided to make a direct reply to you.
You make a compelling point here, I do agree that it would kind of reflect badly on Akito if Gotou doesn't develop a bit more, kind of. Their backstory is something to take into account. I think we haven't seen his hobbies or other personal stuff because this is his gooner series. He just lost his virginity to the slut he likes so itd be natural for us not see other stuff. Lowkey i dont see her stopping liking him happen, this series is all about how he thinks only with his penis. Or maybe, perhaps we just haven't seen more romantic progressions yet. He could get back into baseball with Akito, but not likely if we are following Doujin lore. I really wish Takeda would give this series an alternate ending since it's so different than the Doujin, but I don't see that as likely. There are really only 2 ways to phase Akito out the story, 1: She ends up becoming a slut, Gotou views her differently, and/or she forgets about him and becomes addicted to sex used by many guys (dont want that to happen). 2: Gotou has sex with her, somewhat confesses but tells her she cant be in the world he has entered into, one filled with sluts and playboys, this would be lame and unsatisfying, but may open her up to pursuing another, more wholesome relationship, or just fading out as a sex friend for Gotou in some way.

I honestly don't see her rejecting him because she likes him so much, and it probably wouldn't be in character for her. I know for a fact she'd be down for a threesome, seeing it more as a competition, and probably enjoying it. These theories have some merit to them, but at the same time, I don't know what'll happen next. I'm so curious and nervous as to how Takeda will do this. This is why I wish for an alt ending, but the chances of that wish being fulfilled are slim to none. Hopefully, at the very least, she isnt slutted out.

I even see her crying at the festival, more of an emotional thing than a sexual thing. I've no doubt Gotou likes Akito, which is why "Did they do it" is the thought that went through his head, thinking that made him feel NTR'd. I could be wrong, but if seems like she cried because after Gotou took her virginity and ghosted her, she now spots him at the festival with another girl, which kind of stung. Akito probably thought, "Why didn't he invite me?". She already knows he fools around with other girls. Whereas Gotou knows she isn't like Agawa and Shina and wouldn't want to imagine her on her back for another guy, especially for Inukai.
I just don't like vanilla girls, it's what drew me to this series since Agawa was a unique female protagonist to me since this was the first manga I've read about a main character being in love with a slut and I liked that Agawa seemingly just liked that lifestyle as it made her unique. Akito's are a dime a dozen and so boring and dull to me.
Fair enough I suppose. I like both of them, more so Akito than Agawa. In chapter 33, she kind of coldly rejected Gotou and basically let him know she was about to go have sex with another guy. That scene made me dislike Gotou a bit as well because he was so indecisive, but I guess he didn't really have a choice since she openly shut down his romantic feelings towards her. I like Akito because she was (or still is, hopefully) the only wholesome and redeeming quality of this series. I get its about sluts, but with her, there was some added flare. Plus, Im sure you've gathered this by now, I tend to like vanilla girls😂

I get that but I feel that the ridiculous sex scenarios are part of the series so I kinda hope the result isn't so vanilla otherwise I'd just read some love triangle romcom or something.
Again, fair enough. The sex scenarios are what make this series unique in its own way. They can be funny with the way they are presented, but also carry some weight to them for anyone immersed in the series. The NTR between Gotou and Agawa stung a bit, but was also erotic and funny. If I see Akito on her back for Inukai or any other guy for the sake of "Becoming a slut for Gotou", that wouldnt be funny to me personally, just heartaching.
I agree completely with the last part that it's realistic for him to behave this way which is why I decided to accept the new Gotou. However I disagree that he loves Agawa and think he's just infatuated with her (along with the president and Akito), if he loved them he wouldn't just have sex with Agawa to stop her from having sex with other guys but actively try to get to know her to try and find her interests so he can spend time doing that with her on top of sex to make him a much more viable partner for her compared to guys who only give her sex since they are compatible in that regard. If he loved Akito it would be the easiest win for him if he used the passion she had for baseball and either got back into the sport because he loved her or try in anyway to engage with her using baseball as a good starting spot to know her better since they actually have fucking history. As for the president, bro just kept calling her cute after the threesome while saying he loves Agawa.
You make a great point here, I think you're semi right with the infatuation part, Gotou only thinks with his penis. You have to remember that he and Agawa are on the library committee. I'm not sure if during that time, he has learned about her other interests, but it was inevitable that he'd learn that her main interest is sex. So it's like 50% he doesn't try to learn her other interests, and 50% he partakes in the only interest he, or anyone else, has known she has had, which is sex. So if anything, that'd be an Agawa problem, It less like Gotou doesn't try to know her other interests, and more so that her only and biggest interest is sex.


Same goes for Akito, He spent time with her at the batting cage and enjoyed himself, praising her, and promising to do it with her again. Circumstances have just led him not diving deeper into that with her. He decided to start studying more, she came over, they had sex, he failed his tests, he decided to lock in even more, which resulted in him ghosting her, and then she met Inukai, and thats how all this drama ended up happening. He most likely would have hung out with her to either study or go to the batting cage had she caught up to him in chapter 60. But circumstances have led to us not seeing more progressions that dive deeper into their interest, not because Gotou doesn't like her, but because that's just the way things have played out. At least imo.


That's my 2 cents on that, I think he is infatuated with them all, though I think he does genuinely like both Agawa and Akito, maybe Shina as well, but definitely those other 2. And he shows it in the "Gotou way", which usually mean with his penis. I went back and saw chapter 33, and saw Agawa kind of coldly reject him. I'm hoping this beach arc has developed him to the point where he won't accept such a thing from Akito, nor Agawa again, be more assertive and get what he wants.


Now that I think about it, Takeda could pull off some manga logic bs like the doujin here. Gotou only passed practice tests, so he may go back and decide he'll finally have sex with Akito/Go after her,/ Confess to her once he passes actual tests and improves his grades. This would give Inukai sufficient time to go after Akito and do her because he probably wouldn't care about grades. I may just be reaching, but you never know with Japanese mangaka, it's like they never really want things to go right in their manga. Maybe for entertainment purposes, like for a dramatic effect, a fetish or something. Or some other completely other reason us readers may never truly understand. Hopefully this doesn't happen, I don't think it would, I think Gotou will try seeing Akito before anything else, or at least I hope he does.

What sucks even more is that i think we'll have to wait till next week, we might get a 69.5 extra chapters where nothing really happens.

Hopefully we see him and Akito do more of the things they like (baseball), he has done that with her and said that he had fun, the only reason we didnt get more of it was because it happened once, and while he was studying, they had sex, then he ghosted her, so in this case, its more like we just havent seen him and Akito do more hobbies together because it just hasnt happened yet, due to circumstances. However, after this beach arc maybe we'll get him playing more baseball with her, there will definitely be alot more sex without a doubt

The more I type about this the more I realize I don't want Akito doing it with others, more so for Akito's sake, rather than Gotou's, though, since he is the MC, i'd strangely much rather her do it with him if she is to do it at all. and If not with Gotou then at least give the wholesome girl a wholesome relationship😭

And I'm happy to keep responding to your thoughts since they are interesting and worth sharing.
Im totally down, even though my response is hella late. Like I said, us discussing it, despite our different views, can be entertaining for some people who read the latest chapter, we may be the voice of what some people are feeling. Plus, Takeda may even see this and get some ideas, though I may be reaching with this one. But he has to have some way of seeing what his readers think.
 
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Agawa focused chapter.

Yeah looks like Agawa is bored because every guy she fucks with can't match her stamina. She talks to her friend about it which the friend brought up Gotou. Agawa went to school the next day to see Gotou, only to be surprised to him looking like a gigachad, with the president and Akito holding his arms and him looking absolutely serious.
 
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Agawa focused chapter.

Yeah looks like Agawa is bored because every guy she fucks with can't match her stamina. She talks to her friend about it which the friend brought up Gotou. Agawa went to school the next day to see Gotou, only to be surprised to him looking like a gigachad, with the president and Akito holding his arms.
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Yeah looks like Agawa is bored because every guy she fucks with can't match her stamina. She talks to her friend about it which the friend brought up Gotou. Agawa went to school the next day to see Gotou, only to be surprised to him looking like a chad, with the president on one side and Akito on the other.

So time skip (was expecting this since Inukai case is more or less ended).

Gotou got the post summer break power up after all this adventure. Interesting to see that Akito is at his side. Did he manage to get her on board as fuckbuddy ? well, start of a new arc to stir up Agawa competition since the only one who can make her cum her brain out is Gotou.
The only thing is how much time Gotou will maintain his chad aura after talking with Agawa. Unless he become less prone to "panic":lul:
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Agawa focused chapter.

Yeah looks like Agawa is bored because every guy she fucks with can't match her stamina. She talks to her friend about it which the friend brought up Gotou. Agawa went to school the next day to see Gotou, only to be surprised to him looking like a gigachad, with the president and Akito holding his arms.
So we are getting a possible jealousy and possessiveness arc from Agawa. Seems like we will get more of on Agawa POV now, after getting her back in the story.
 
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So time skip (was expecting this since Inukai case is more or less ended).

Gotou got the post summer break power up after all this adventure. Interesting to see that Akito is at his side. Did he manage to get her on board as fuckbuddy ? well, start of a new arc to stir up Agawa competition since the only one who can make her cum her brain out is Gotou.
The only thing is how much time Gotou will maintain his chad aura after talking with Agawa. Unless he become less prone to "panic":lul:
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That's a direction I didn't expect to see. A bunch of people, including me, didn't expect to see Akito lock her arms around Gotou next chapter, but this is a whole new Gotou now. Serious as fuck and locked in to protect his harem at all cost.

Inukai really did awoken the beast in him.
 

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