Apologies, the loser comment was directed at myself not you, and when I called myself a loser I was just joking - throwing jabs and being slightly antagonistic is just my sense of humour. It was an oversight on my part to expect you to get it though since this is the first time I've ever interacted with you.So belligerent, why do you feel the need to insult me?? Anyone liking a manga, even a trash one like this, and talking about it at length, or even having similar thoughts to mine or yours, doesn't make one a loser.
The whole well-adjusted stuff was once again just throwing jabs at the two of us, it's like how people call themselves or others degenerates when referring to ero stuff, they don't actually think lowly of themselves or others however it could be a case of me phrasing it much more rudely than most other people lol.I too was laughing at Inukai's imminent L, praying for it if anything. And I have already stated that, yes, this series is a heap of trash. Just because I have a different opinion, or am a little more invested than others, doesnt make me, you, or anyone else in the same boat, a moron. Just because others are laughing and not really discussing it in further detail just means they aren't as invested or immersed as we are, and that's completely fine. Doesnt make them more "well-adjusted" than us. A "well-adjusted person knows that people have their own interests and are free to discuss them at length if they want. The weird and non-adjusted person is the one who is overly judgmental about something they claim not to care about
seeing how strongly you feel about Akito relative to any other character I'm not too surprised.Also, I don't think I've mentioned this before, but I really only got invested when Akito was introduced, mostly around chapter 60. With the implication of chapter 60 and the vagueness and uncertainty between chapter 60 - 66 is what had me on edge because I like Akito and although I wanted the dumbass MC to treat her better, I simultaneously did not want to see her with Inukai, or anyone else for that matter since Gotou also liked her. (reasons mentioned in @18thMoon comment)
I'm not actually embarassed lol, I just thought it was funny I reached the comment limit discussing this manga and had to make two separate comments. I was anticipating for people to insult and get a few laughs out of it tbh since I don't take things like that too seriously. This isn't to say that I'm not also quite immersed in this manga, it's been stuck in my head for the past few weeks and I check the comments almost daily because I love watching people discuss the manga, that's the reason why I chose to make a massive response to you because I was happy to see someone who can openly verbalise all of the thoughts they have and what they are anticipating from a manga like this.This one was slightly passive-aggressive. FIRST: There is no need to be embarrassed.
1: We are incognito, so it's not like I, or anyone else, knows who you are irl.
2: You can be invested, immersed, or curious about a manga; you aren't harming anyone, it doesn't make you a loser, and its only natural to dive deeper and make predictions once you are curious, immersed, and/or invested.
My bad bro I was just joking 😭.SECOND: Why do you feel the need to bring up being normal and well-adjusted? Can't I (we) just discuss a manga and make our harmless predictions because that's simply what comes to mind once we read the latest chapter?
You don't know me at all, so why say I'm not a normal well adjusted guy just for sharing my thoughts after reading a manga that I'm rather interested in? (even if that manga is a heap of trash). I literally make these (Paragraphs) late at night, when I'm home from work, and literally minutes after I read the latest chapter, I have a normal life dude. You and I aren't losers, weird, morons, or not well adjusted for simply making predictions and discussing a manga.
Its as harmless as you think. Just me reading a chapter and maybe it does get to me, but overall i just think "Wow, I wonder what could happen next", and then i share what I think. I've already recognized that the alt ending that I would want is not likely to happen. I mistakenly got immersed in this manga, and it became a guilty pleasure. Most "normal & well-adjusted guys" understand that people have interests and are free to discuss them, even if its a trash one like this. Not saying you said we couldn't, but you shouldn't be embarrassed, if it's a manga you're invested in, that's fine. No harm is done, and you're allowed to discuss it and make predictions.
If you're invested, immersed, or curious like i am, then there's no need to feel embarrassed about that.
This got rather personal, but to sum this up, me, you, or anyone else can discuss this manga or any other manga at length and not be morons, and not well adjusted, im a normal guy WITH a social life, and yes, normal people can like manga, get invested, and talk about it. I've literally seen women talk about their smut romance novels at length and didn't think of them as weird, just them having an interest in something that I wouldn't personally be interested in. This is literally no different.
I wouldn't say I'm anti-Gotou since I like him as a protagonist even if my points seem to indicate I want him to suffer. You're right that I'm not a cuck otherwise I'd probably be self-inserting into Inukai but its true that I want Gotou to go through some hardship, I like that Gotou can be a bad guy who makes reprehensible decisions as it makes him more unique as a protagonist. I like characters with striking personalities, especially if its entertaining which is why I like Inukai, both Gotou and Inukai are people I wouldn't like in real life but they are also people who can create drama and end up being funny so in fiction I like characters like them.With that said, it seems like you're the opposite of me and want more NTR. As i was typing this, I thought it was because you were a cuck and liked it, but realized that wasn't the case. It seems you want it more as a plot device to make Gotou pay for his decisions and make him think things through. All your points seem to be tethered to the fact that you are anti-goutou and would like more NTR and drama to spite him or make him develop as a character, hopefully I'm correct in this assessment, if im not please feel free to correct me. You already know my stance, even if Inukai becomes some sort of good guy after this, I personally would like for this to be his exit from the series, and would not like him and Akito together on any level or capacity. There most definitely will be some more drama that includes Inukai after this, and although i wish for something more wholesome, I've also accepted that and have braced myself for the worst (kind of).
I don't want to spite him on its own, while I'll admit that seeing Gotou get temporarily heartbroken or distraught is something I'm not against, it's only because Takeda will probably present it in a funny and over the top way similar to what's going on to Inukai. If Takeda presented it in typical NTR fashion where it was all depressing and sad then I would be against it since it's no longer funny. For the most part the NTR ideas are all just for Gotou to learn from how selfish his mindset is, I think the best way to achieve this is for Akito to make the choice since Gotou will be forced to confront the fact that he can't make Akito exclusive if he doesn't commit to her in any way - even if we get into territory I don't like such as Gotou telling Akito to be his girlfriend or only fuck him while he fucks other girls, as long as he verbalises it and Akito agrees I'm fine with it (this would be so shit though since Akito has been waiting years for Gotou just for him to keep her to himself while he can have the freedom to have sex with anyone else).
I guess that makes sense, I was expecting a bit more pushback due to how opposed we are in views and since I'm up for a discussion but it makes sense that we won't really be changing each other's minds anytime soon. But you can berate me if you want, I promise I won't get upset.I'm honestly speechless at this. Like i said, you are more than free to have your own opinion. But finding the least desirable outcomes fun and interesting is wild to me. I can't really criticize or even berate you because it's simply what you find to be entertaining, so we'd just have to agree to disagree here. All I can say is that it's not what I want to happen, more so for Akito's sake and semi for Gotou's. I'm all for the wish fulfillment, Gotou getting the girls he likes/wants, Akito not being slutted out, etc. I don't know what this looks like, but if Akito ends up not being endgame along with Agawa (most likely that won't happen), then I'm all for her having a wholesome resolution and exiting the series on a high note. I'd prefer drama in different ways from here on out, but that's just what I want. Unlike you, I find her "purity/innocence" to be cute and the only redeeming thing about this series, and thats the driving factor behind not wanting her to be corrupted/slutted out.
That first part was an oversight on my part, I don't think she does know (no reason for anyone to tell her) but I still think it would be a funny parallel. I don't think Akito would have the threesome for the sake of an equaliser though, I was thinking that she would be mirroring Gotou when he agreed to the threesome even though he was only really interested in Agawa back then with Gotou seeing himself in Akito and realising how Agawa may have felt when she reluctantly had a threesome with him and her sister.Also im not sure Akito knows that he had a threesome with Agawa and Shina, plus I don't think its in character for her to do a get back or equalizer type thing. While hanging out with Agawa, we see that she obviously sees sex as something to do with someone you like, And we dont know if she likes Inukai like she likes Gotou, if they were meeting up in the 2 weeks we didn't see, then maybe they had gotten close but we wont know until we see her side. Also as im typing and reading your response, I see that you're anti-Gotou but not really anti-Inukai. Personally, I'm for Inukai taking overt Ls. That last part of your message is just another thing we'd have to agree to disagree on, i wouldn't find it funny, only more heartaching tbh . Hopefully Gotou gets character development in another way other than having to witness Akito being plowed by another dude.
Like I said above, I'm not really anti-Gotou and more so just like to see him go through tough times, I want to see every character take Ls once in awhile whether it's Gotou in getting cucked, Agawa in getting the guy she's interested in fucked by her sister or Shina getting rejected in a threesome and her plans to cuck foiled (although this is non-canon unfortunately). In regards to Inukai I'm not really anti-Inukai, every L he takes is stuff he does to himself so liking Inukai means liking the Ls he takes too.
If I'm pro anyone im probably pro-Shina since she's my favourite character, I like how she is incredibly intelligent despite simultaneously being a super slut and the fact that she is the second worst character morally behind Inukai (or maybe third since teachers apparently fuck students in this manga lol), by being obsessed with breaking her sister's heart and stopping her from ever wanting to make deeper connections - the malice and over the top nature of it makes her so entertaining to me. In general I like antagonistic characters more so I always find myself liking bad guys in stories in general since they can easily bring drama or drive conflict in the story.