S-Kyuu Boukensha ga Ayumu Michi - Tsuihou Sareta Shounen wa Shin no Nouryoku "Buki Master" de Sekai Saikyou ni Itaru - Vol. 2 Ch. 10

[Kampfarsch]

but basic storytelling that isn't just "ignoring character progression and motivation in favor of the one character the author has a crush on being made to look as good as possible" is something that should be expected

Again, this is trope sewage, the exact same thing can be said about the entire premise, the author having a hard on for his OC is the least of the problems here.
You are literally reading "I was kicked out of the RPG world adventurer hero party but jokes on them I'm actually the strongest and have 15 wives and a big penis and they are actually the losers" and the part you take issue with is legal technicalities and interpersonal relations of literal children, It makes no fucking sense.
Like walking into a burned down house and complaining about the draft, do you read scifi and nitpick on magic devices the entire time too?

The decent writing at the start might have fooled you into thinking this isnt shit, but it is.
shovelware fast food shitass comic for teenage boys, the only thing important to author and audience here is MC being cool and getting all the bitches, that includes mean girl stacey hero chick.

 

[Trov]

My man, they treated him as a gopher and tied him down with tons of menial tasks. Treating him as a servant rather than a team member. They actively TURNED him into a liability, and the Knight/Priestess very much did so intentionally. The Priestess was just more outspoken and blatant about it. The rest of the group went along with it or didn't care, which is just as bad. Sasha standing by and permitting it in itself makes her irredeemable.

Hyce BECAME a liability not by accident but by intent. He was never trained, never had any lessons, and they loaded him down with so many tasks he wouldn't even have time to train on his own. They also ensured he wouldn't get any experience nor fight the initial easy enemies so he'd fall back further and further. Sasha even fucking NOTICES this when they recruit new people, and do all these things with them. The same things that were done for her, while she received training Hyce was basically send to do chores and clean up for the party.

No, Sasha was a horrible, selfish, egotistic person long before that. She has a tendency to just ignore things that are inconvenient to her. To handwave them away. To ignore how others are treated and used, as long as the people doing it benefit her personally. She saw what her hanger ons did, and allowed it. She never even saw a problem with it and just went along with whatever bad excuse they gave her.

Hyce "understanding" is part of the author's endless glazing of Sasha. Something even the Japanese audiences is furious about and complains about endlessly. One of the most chill audiences who usually hardly ever speak up about anything. Sasha is a horrid person, in her own way she's more evil than many selfish and intentional evil parties kicking out people. And I doubt there'll be any comeuppance for the people who intentionally sabotaged Hyce this time around either.

Again. Hyce was desperate at that time to prove himself useful. He wasn't turned into a liability, he already was. Him doing all the 'menial' work was both a way to prove his usefulness to himself and a way to keep him from getting himself killed.

Not only that, but he was already trained not by Sasha (who had just as much experience as him) , but by his mentor the guild branch leader, the same mentor as Sasha. Hyce's problem was his lack of power. That was something only he could fix since it had to do with his special ability that no one* knew a damn thing about. Do not underestimate how powerful abilities can make a person. As far as we've seen in the story, you can't became an Adventurer withou the right ability to at least keep yourself or others alive.


*well there were people who knew about it, but they were too high up and important to even meet. And they barely knew much more than most.

And again, the only one that actually sabotaged him was the priestess. The knight had conflicting feelings due to his feelings for Sasha, but in the end, he never actively did anything to hurt the MC. The most you can say for him is that his didn't back him up.
The mage and archer got along with Hyce. Mage and him were both book nerds. And he was the one that was mainly trying to research about MC's abilities but came up with nothing. But Like I said before, that guy is logical. He reluctantly agreed to kick him out of the party due to that logic. Though it was more of a neutral stance in general.

Archer straight up adores him like a big brother. She didn't even want to kick him out. But she was outvoted anyway. Hell, the manga didn't say it, but she was the one that actually tried to repair the relationship between Hyce and Sasha the most during the time before the series started. She never really gave up trying to get the team back together.
Chapter 6 and 7 of the WN let you know how the whole team felt about Hyce and expulsion. It is not as bad as you make it out to be.


Hyce's understanding isn't some Sasha glazing. It's reasonable.
Hyce understands that she kicked him out not because he was a burden but because the enemies they are facing now would have been too dangerous with his level of skill, he was going to die or someone would get seriously hurt or dead protecting him.
Hyce also understands that she was trying to help when she gave that info for a spot to help with his quest. She wasn't trying to kill him.

But Hyce also understands that she was pursuing "her" dream and not "their" dream when it came down to it.
She thought they had the same dream and they kind of did. But what they focused on was different. Sasha focused on the big picture, but Hyce was about the details. Results vs process. To Hyce, it's only "their" dream if they achieve it together. Since they didn't, it's her dream.

Hyce also understands that even though she didn't intentionally send him to the grave she also didn't appear before him after that incident, that when he was badly hurt, she didn't even try to clear things up. And the time she did try he was already strong.

Look. I'm not saying Sasha isn't at fault. But people over hate her for the wrong things. They focus on the expulsion but not on the reason Hyce had a problem with it. They focus on her sending him to the field but less on the events after. They think she's heartless, but in reality she just awkward.
She wanted to apologize, she wanted to explain everything, she just didn't know how. And that lack of social experience bit her in the ass.

 

[SpeedMonkeySonic]

Again. Hyce was desperate at that time to prove himself useful. He wasn't turned into a liability, he already was. Him doing all the 'menial' work was both a way to prove his usefulness to himself and a way to keep him from getting himself killed.

Not only that, but he was already trained not by Sasha (who had just as much experience as him) , but by his mentor the guild branch leader, the same mentor as Sasha. Hyce's problem was his lack of power. That was something only he could fix since it had to do with his special ability that no one* knew a damn thing about. Do not underestimate how powerful abilities can make a person. As far as we've seen in the story, you can't became an Adventurer withou the right ability to at least keep yourself or others alive.


*well there were people who knew about it, but they were too high up and important to even meet. And they barely knew much more than most.

And again, the only one that actually sabotaged him was the priestess. The knight had conflicting feelings due to his feelings for Sasha, but in the end, he never actively did anything to hurt the MC. The most you can say for him is that his didn't back him up.
The mage and archer got along with Hyce. Mage and him were both book nerds. And he was the one that was mainly trying to research about MC's abilities but came up with nothing. But Like I said before, that guy is logical. He reluctantly agreed to kick him out of the party due to that logic. Though it was more of a neutral stance in general.

Archer straight up adores him like a big brother. She didn't even want to kick him out. But she was outvoted anyway. Hell, the manga didn't say it, but she was the one that actually tried to repair the relationship between Hyce and Sasha the most during the time before the series started. She never really gave up trying to get the team back together.
Chapter 6 and 7 of the WN let you know how the whole team felt about Hyce and expulsion. It is not as bad as you make it out to be.


Hyce's understanding isn't some Sasha glazing. It's reasonable.
Hyce understands that she kicked him out not because he was a burden but because the enemies they are facing now would have been too dangerous with his level of skill, he was going to die or someone would get seriously hurt or dead protecting him.
Hyce also understands that she was trying to help when she gave that info for a spot to help with his quest. She wasn't trying to kill him.

But Hyce also understands that she was pursuing "her" dream and not "their" dream when it came down to it.
She thought they had the same dream and they kind of did. But what they focused on was different. Sasha focused on the big picture, but Hyce was about the details. Results vs process. To Hyce, it's only "their" dream if they achieve it together. Since they didn't, it's her dream.

Hyce also understands that even though she didn't intentionally send him to the grave she also didn't appear before him after that incident, that when he was badly hurt, she didn't even try to clear things up. And the time she did try he was already strong.

Look. I'm not saying Sasha isn't at fault. But people over hate her for the wrong things. They focus on the expulsion but not on the reason Hyce had a problem with it. They focus on her sending him to the field but less on the events after. They think she's heartless, but in reality she just awkward.
She wanted to apologize, she wanted to explain everything, she just didn't know how. And that lack of social experience bit her in the ass.

You do know that sasha insulted him daily because of the stress?
yes for stress relief she insulted her "precious"childhood friend everyday
Even the archer girl said it (even if it's to tell us that she always regretted it afterward) but it's not like it change anything she never apologized for it and it's just another thing the simp author glazed over
Hyce is not without fault but don't think the hate she got isn't deserved
Every comment in the webnovel say the same

 

[Lewd_Beast]

To explain, most of this manga adaptation is bad, it leaves out every little bit of the darker and gritty elements, trying to turn this story into another shonen pegi 13 rating story.
It leaves out A LOT.
But onto these past few chapters,in the WN there is no turtle Shasa just gets careless, and is ambushed by goblins who start stripping her in order to rape her, and Hyce saves her ass, then sends her back to re-dress and regroup. Then she has her second awakening.
And obviously Hyce never tanks any hits for Shasa nor is hospitalized for the rom-com scene to happen. And he still keeps being distant, doesn't even go to the commendation ceremony for the extermination of the stamped.

So, no there is no such decisive resolution in the WN.

This smells like the author trying to tie up all loose ends before his unfaithful manga adaptation gets axed.

That explains the poor storytelling of why a man/boy can take a full-on hit from something that would have killed Shasa, even though his only power is using guns... Is the original author actually making the manga? That is a bit unusual.

 

[Someone011]

That explains the poor storytelling of why a man/boy can take a full-on hit from something that would have killed Shasa, even though his only power is using guns... Is the original author actually making the manga? That is a bit unusual.

I am not certain about that.
If it is the original author, then whomever is his editor and responsible for serializing it, must have put the author's balls in a vicegrip for him to make so many bad changes.

 

[DBAV]

I am not certain about that.
If it is the original author, then whomever is his editor and responsible for serializing it, must have put the author's balls in a vicegrip for him to make so many bad changes.

We had hope, because the story changed somewhat from the original we though the editor disliked the original work and wanted to end Sasha's Sue reign, but chapter 10 ends up with the same relationship the have around WN chapter 29X-30X.
When Hyce saved Sasha I felt a bit disgusted but not enough to drop it, to me it ended when Sasha invited Hyce to Sacred and his first answer wasn't "What are you doing here? Don't you have an important mission somewhere else?" or similar jab to her ghosting, I knew the editor just wanted to make this into a rom-com.

 

[betetta]

You know how there's always in this stories an asshole who vanishes the good guy/blank slate/Mc?

It doesn't matter if the asshole is a man or a woman, people always want scorched earth against the asshole, they want basically the bland good hearted guy to act like the asshole would if the situation was reversed, think about it... They're not supporting the asshole him/herself, but their mindset.

This self insert stories are never about pure revenge, they're power fantasies where Mc is supposed to get what he wants, huge harem, great power and most of all their self respect back, that includes apologies from those who wronged him unless it's established that they were unapologetically bad, not just some friends that worry about each other's safety in the wrist way possible with a lot of miscommunication.

Of fucking course they were gonna make up, and good for them

 

[whermit]

What? Why?

 

[Rafalga]

Again. Hyce was desperate at that time to prove himself useful. He wasn't turned into a liability, he already was. Him doing all the 'menial' work was both a way to prove his usefulness to himself and a way to keep him from getting himself killed.

Not only that, but he was already trained not by Sasha (who had just as much experience as him) , but by his mentor the guild branch leader, the same mentor as Sasha. Hyce's problem was his lack of power. That was something only he could fix since it had to do with his special ability that no one* knew a damn thing about. Do not underestimate how powerful abilities can make a person. As far as we've seen in the story, you can't became an Adventurer withou the right ability to at least keep yourself or others alive.


*well there were people who knew about it, but they were too high up and important to even meet. And they barely knew much more than most.

And again, the only one that actually sabotaged him was the priestess. The knight had conflicting feelings due to his feelings for Sasha, but in the end, he never actively did anything to hurt the MC. The most you can say for him is that his didn't back him up.
The mage and archer got along with Hyce. Mage and him were both book nerds. And he was the one that was mainly trying to research about MC's abilities but came up with nothing. But Like I said before, that guy is logical. He reluctantly agreed to kick him out of the party due to that logic. Though it was more of a neutral stance in general.

Archer straight up adores him like a big brother. She didn't even want to kick him out. But she was outvoted anyway. Hell, the manga didn't say it, but she was the one that actually tried to repair the relationship between Hyce and Sasha the most during the time before the series started. She never really gave up trying to get the team back together.
Chapter 6 and 7 of the WN let you know how the whole team felt about Hyce and expulsion. It is not as bad as you make it out to be.


Hyce's understanding isn't some Sasha glazing. It's reasonable.
Hyce understands that she kicked him out not because he was a burden but because the enemies they are facing now would have been too dangerous with his level of skill, he was going to die or someone would get seriously hurt or dead protecting him.
Hyce also understands that she was trying to help when she gave that info for a spot to help with his quest. She wasn't trying to kill him.

But Hyce also understands that she was pursuing "her" dream and not "their" dream when it came down to it.
She thought they had the same dream and they kind of did. But what they focused on was different. Sasha focused on the big picture, but Hyce was about the details. Results vs process. To Hyce, it's only "their" dream if they achieve it together. Since they didn't, it's her dream.

Hyce also understands that even though she didn't intentionally send him to the grave she also didn't appear before him after that incident, that when he was badly hurt, she didn't even try to clear things up. And the time she did try he was already strong.

Look. I'm not saying Sasha isn't at fault. But people over hate her for the wrong things. They focus on the expulsion but not on the reason Hyce had a problem with it. They focus on her sending him to the field but less on the events after. They think she's heartless, but in reality she just awkward.
She wanted to apologize, she wanted to explain everything, she just didn't know how. And that lack of social experience bit her in the ass.

Hyce's training is a plot hole in itself. We are told that the gun blessing is different from other blessings because it doesn't really give physical boosts to the body like other weapon blessings because they require you to swing the thing, unlike guns. We are specifically told that Hyce is actually pretty easy to kill. If you can manage to get near him that is.
So guild master prepared a hell regimen for him and that's how he was able to reach where he is today, alone. He is more or less physically equal to an A-B rank martial artist without the accompanying boost. So he is still the same Hyce. But somehow no one thought of getting him this training beforehand. Apparently, everyone had his well being in mind (lol). Kicking someone with a literal MASTER blessing the way they did was pretty retarded in the first place but as said before, everyone had an ulterior motive, mage didn't really give a fuck because he is autistic and archer is just a child so she has no say. We know what the remaining two feels.

You are also kinda ignoring a lot of things about Sasha.

It is a fact that she abused him during the entire time they started gaining ranks in the party AND ignored the abuse he suffered at the hands of the lesbian priest because she was also doing something similar. She shit on him during the day and cried herself to sleep because of it during the night but did it again next day anyway because she subconsciously started to see him as an anchor tying them down and took her frustration out of him. Archer tells us this during her monologue. Hyce picked up on this and that's why he was so reckless. He literally had no alternative because they didn't offer any. That's why he loses it when Sasha says "i did it for our dream" at the start. She didn't. She is trying to convince herself that it was for his own good but it was largely due her seeing him as an obstacle. She gave zero fucks. She didn't know what he was up to or even what he was going through after he was kicked. Well Roland did tell him to fuck off back to his village and stay there and she agreed. Guess it was not her responsibility.

Problem with Sasha is that she NEVER properly face, acknowledge and apologizes for anything she did. Specially the above part. Even in the chapters where she faces the fake Hyce who tells and shows it to her face, she still ignores it and just beats him (somehow). She gets out of that trail exactly as she went in. Zero change and confesses not long after as well which was hilarious. You can check the JP comments of this chapter too. They point it out too.

There is already contradictions in the writing up to that point as well. She yells "no don't kick him out" to her old self during the trial when fake Hyce shows her the moment she kicked Hyce again but she literally acknowledges not long ago that it was the correct choice. She is not even consistent in her own character. Author just got so much shit from the readers about her that he tried to make her look remorseful at that point but it doesn't work. Not after 200+ chapters of sweeping shit under the rag.

Everyone loves and worship the land she walks on. Never blamed for anything. Always getting praised. Inserted in to situations she has no business of being in. A randomly teleporting dungeon literally teleports ON TOP OF HER just so she can, once again, spend time with Hyce. It is ridiculous.
Even the guild master thinks fault lies mostly in Hyce when it comes to their conflict. Though he knows jackshit about all the shit he had to go through during when he was still in the party. But he knows HOW they kicked him and what they said during the expulsion but still doesn't care. This should tell you about the bias at work. No one can be angry at Sasha.

Sasha's biggest flaw is her writing. She is badly written, plain and simple. Author is trying so hard to make her look good next to all the other heroines he included (which are 100 times better then her in any metric), every reader who is not an equal simp for a fictional character is able to spot it instantly. He is in love with his character. That's pretty much it.

 

[Filype]

The sad part is the deus ex machina chenanigan from knowhere, the building up conclusion of the last chapter was better than the delivery of this one, but well, lets keep whatching to see where it will end up.

 

[TenThousandWaspsInACoat]

Again. Hyce was desperate at that time to prove himself useful. He wasn't turned into a liability, he already was. Him doing all the 'menial' work was both a way to prove his usefulness to himself and a way to keep him from getting himself killed.

Not only that, but he was already trained not by Sasha (who had just as much experience as him) , but by his mentor the guild branch leader, the same mentor as Sasha. Hyce's problem was his lack of power. That was something only he could fix since it had to do with his special ability that no one* knew a damn thing about. Do not underestimate how powerful abilities can make a person. As far as we've seen in the story, you can't became an Adventurer withou the right ability to at least keep yourself or others alive.


*well there were people who knew about it, but they were too high up and important to even meet. And they barely knew much more than most.

And again, the only one that actually sabotaged him was the priestess. The knight had conflicting feelings due to his feelings for Sasha, but in the end, he never actively did anything to hurt the MC. The most you can say for him is that his didn't back him up.
The mage and archer got along with Hyce. Mage and him were both book nerds. And he was the one that was mainly trying to research about MC's abilities but came up with nothing. But Like I said before, that guy is logical. He reluctantly agreed to kick him out of the party due to that logic. Though it was more of a neutral stance in general.

Archer straight up adores him like a big brother. She didn't even want to kick him out. But she was outvoted anyway. Hell, the manga didn't say it, but she was the one that actually tried to repair the relationship between Hyce and Sasha the most during the time before the series started. She never really gave up trying to get the team back together.
Chapter 6 and 7 of the WN let you know how the whole team felt about Hyce and expulsion. It is not as bad as you make it out to be.


Hyce's understanding isn't some Sasha glazing. It's reasonable.
Hyce understands that she kicked him out not because he was a burden but because the enemies they are facing now would have been too dangerous with his level of skill, he was going to die or someone would get seriously hurt or dead protecting him.
Hyce also understands that she was trying to help when she gave that info for a spot to help with his quest. She wasn't trying to kill him.

But Hyce also understands that she was pursuing "her" dream and not "their" dream when it came down to it.
She thought they had the same dream and they kind of did. But what they focused on was different. Sasha focused on the big picture, but Hyce was about the details. Results vs process. To Hyce, it's only "their" dream if they achieve it together. Since they didn't, it's her dream.

Hyce also understands that even though she didn't intentionally send him to the grave she also didn't appear before him after that incident, that when he was badly hurt, she didn't even try to clear things up. And the time she did try he was already strong.

Look. I'm not saying Sasha isn't at fault. But people over hate her for the wrong things. They focus on the expulsion but not on the reason Hyce had a problem with it. They focus on her sending him to the field but less on the events after. They think she's heartless, but in reality she just awkward.
She wanted to apologize, she wanted to explain everything, she just didn't know how. And that lack of social experience bit her in the ass.

You're just making things up, and ignoring everything you dislike. You keep reasserting the same points time and time again.

- Yes Hyce was desperate, because he was being sidelined, sabotaged, held down, and being regularly insulted by Sasha. He didn't start out desperate, he didn't start out wanting to do menial tasks and being the groups servant. He was maliciously pushed into that role until it was the only thing he had left to do and which he desperately clung to.

- No, he was not being trained prior to that. He was actively NOT being trained. Nor was he allowed to actually gain experience or fight prior. This is specifically a point that Sasha notices during the training and recruitment of new people for Sacred. How different the treatment is, how they're being trained and taught stuff which Hyce never was. You are on purpose fudging the time line here to make excuses for Sasha and the group.

- The Priestess was the most outspoken, the Knight very much helped things along and has ulterior motives. Neither of them should be given any forgiveness. Stop trying to put the entire blame on a singular person here. His group at large wasn't particularly nice people. You defend various people here, but ignore that they ALLOWED the Priestess to act in this way, that they allowed Sasha to insult and belittle Hyce, that they allowed him to be tripped up and sabotaged along the way and effectively be turned into a servant. None of them ever spoke up or tried to change it much less backed him up. They all are still chummy and get along just fine with the Priestess and Knight.

- Hyce "understanding" is 100% the author glazing Sasha and making excuses for her. Something that never ever stops in this series. Hell you are doing it yourself. If your English wasn't as good as it is I'd almost think you are the author. Everything you claim, all the excuses you make, they're exactly the issue and they don't align with the characters actual actions and history. Because the author only later jumped onto the Sasha waifu train and since then has been warping the story to make any and every excuse for her.

They think she's heartless, but in reality she just awkward.

I don't think that, at all. I think Sasha is an absolutely horrible excuse for a human being. She's a selfish, self absorbed, abusive, self serving, narcissist and egotist. She ignores anything and everything that is inconvenient to her, she will take out her frustrations and anger on others, unless they benefit and worship her, and you can be sure Sasha will always look out for number 1, herself.

And she sees absolutely nothing wrong with that, and neither does the author, because Sasha is Sasha and thus absolutely in the right and others just misunderstand her. No way his waifu could be absolutely loathsome. Sasha isn't intentionally evil, she's obliviously evil and callous as hell.

 

[TenThousandWaspsInACoat]

Sasha's biggest flaw is her writing. She is badly written, plain and simple. Author is trying so hard to make her look good next to all the other heroines he included (which are 100 times better then her in any metric), every reader who is not an equal simp for a fictional character is able to spot it instantly. He is in love with his character. That's pretty much it.

Sasha is actively destroying the story, and all the continuity snarl, discrepancies, plot holes, and contradictions are because of her. Because she initially wasn't written to be a likable character or be redeemed. The author seems to have basically fallen for her along the way and since then keeps warping the story more and more to find a way to excuse everything she did and is still doing.

Which also means he can't acknowledge shit the other group members did, because that would mean Sasha was wrong in standing by and letting it happen. Which works as a shield for the Priestess and Knight.

 

[TheYohn]

A lot of readers seem to believe Hyce is a 'simp' for protecting Sasha. I'll like to make a point, so here are my cents.

Hyce protected Sasha because Hyce and Sasha are not just childhood friends, as established from the beginning they're also orphans and their village's last survivors. Before Sasha kicked Hyce off the party, they spent years through thick and thin as companions.( not a spoiler as this can be assumed happening during the time skip in between their skills revelation and up to Hyce's expulsion).

They are family.

They were and are together because they had and have only each other. They are each others' last connection to their 'normal life and happy childhood days'. They are each others' only partner in the whole world.

If anything, this point of view of mine should ACCENTUATE how horribly large of a betrayal was committed by Sasha...she abandoned her only family...

Speaking of the devil; 'Sasha of Sacred: The Betrayer, The Selfish'. That's my personal title for her. An INCREDIBLE befitting title.

P. S.: I've read the Web Novel, and my goodness is Sasha a piece of work. She's no a B-word, but she's definitely  not a genuinely good person either.

 

[Rafalga]

Sasha is actively destroying the story, and all the continuity snarl, discrepancies, plot holes, and contradictions are because of her. Because she initially wasn't written to be a likable character or be redeemed. The author seems to have basically fallen for her along the way and since then keeps warping the story more and more to find a way to excuse everything she did and is still doing.

Which also means he can't acknowledge shit the other group members did, because that would mean Sasha was wrong in standing by and letting it happen. Which works as a shield for the Priestess and Knight.

I don't think he changed his mind over time. Even as early as stampede chapter (and the following bookstore part), you can see Hyce's resolve completely breaking down faster than light. He says one thing then turns around and says completely contradicting things after. This is pointed out by the JP readers as well. Everyone asking where did the deep seeded grudge from 2 chapters ago go? It is not as apparent as later chapters because they get separated in order to clear the first 2 labyrinths.

Also EVERYONE is on Sasha's side from the very beginning including the senile old fart that is the guild master who constantly insists on that its mostly Hyce's fault that they are in this predicament. I hate that man specifically because he is suppsoe to be someone who knows them since childhood. Sasha comes across as a selfish emotionally stunned spoiled brat because she was surrounded by simps since she was 12 so never told off once in her life.

 

[xAKLx]

Yet another bs story in where revenge is actually not revenge, like can we get for once a revenge story that is actually revenge?

why did you even think this series was about revenge?

 

[xAKLx]

damm this is a really drastic change from the novel. And I actually think Sasha asking him to come back is positive, in the WN we didn't even get that. You guys probably would see this "oh so she didn't want him when he was weak and now wants him when he is strong" yeah, no shit. I actually like this development because she is the one begging, if the reason why she exiled him was because he was weak, then why wouldn't she ask him to join when he became strong? And I'm saying this from Hyce's POV, if I were him, it would be satisfying even if I didn't accept

 

[xAKLx]

That explains the poor storytelling of why a man/boy can take a full-on hit from something that would have killed Shasa, even though his only power is using guns... Is the original author actually making the manga? That is a bit unusual.

man you should just wait for the story to explain itself LMAO 😂

Spoiler

The reason why he was so weak before was not only because he didn't understand his powers, but because he had yet to awaken them. When you awaken your powers, you also become physically stronger. Right now, the MC could probably beat many high tiers without his gun. This is the kind of story where awakening your powers also makes you superhuman, regardless of your specific power

 

[DBAV]

damm this is a really drastic change from the novel. And I actually think Sasha asking him to come back is positive, in the WN we didn't even get that. You guys probably would see this "oh so she didn't want him when he was weak and now wants him when he is strong" yeah, no shit. I actually like this development because she is the one begging, if the reason why she exiled him was because he was weak, then why wouldn't she ask him to join when he became strong? And I'm saying this from Hyce's POV, if I were him, it would be satisfying even if I didn't accept

If Hyce was still angry and answered with "I don't need people I can't trust" then it would be something but given the last interaction in the chapter, it's obvious the editor wanted to forget about the grudge and enter the rom-com as soon as possible.

 

[xAKLx]

Hyce's training is a plot hole in itself. We are told that the gun blessing is different from other blessings because it doesn't really give physical boosts to the body like other weapon blessings because they require you to swing the thing, unlike guns. We are specifically told that Hyce is actually pretty easy to kill. If you can manage to get near him that is.

What? hell nah I read the novel, it was explained that when you awaken, you become physically stronger. There's the reason why his master didn't put him through his extreme hellish training before. If he could, Haise wouldn't have issues even without powers.

He is more or less physically equal to an A-B rank martial artist without the accompanying boost. So he is still the same Hyce.

What? More spoilers, but Haise is physically S-rank. It was said that he was stronger than Hijiri, who was wrecking golden Sasha without her powers, and also stronger than the guild master's son who is an S-rank AND his power are martial arts.

 

[dacraziguy]

No, MC spelled it out for her. She kicked him out to achieve HER dreams thus bringing THEIR dream to a close. There is nothing wrong with using and betraying those around you to achieve victory, but don't expect people to like you very much if you take that path.

He was useless and she was afraid he might die. If it weren't because of the plot armor, he would've never made it, it made sense at the time. But well, it's funny how insecure people are in the comment section. I'm not saying that she never made a mistake, I just say that she is over hated.