Rebuild World - Ch. 73

[StormSen]

Keep in mind that this is a fairly complicated story. Lots of politics + decent amount of hidden lore.

As for Katsuya, Yes, he's very punchable. But he's also being manipulated by Alpha (or is it 'Alpha Prime'?) Without that manipulation/aid he would probably be more humble and less punchable at this point. Though the MC is also being manipulated by Alpha and would almost certainly be dead (in first chapter) were it not for her.

 

[Solarium99x]

When will that unlikeable prick turn into fertilizer?

Katsuya? Well, if the LN-to-manga pace holds...

We're currently midway through the 6th volume and Katsuya dies at the end of the 10th, so we're past the halfway point. I can't do an accurate chapter prediction, but I don't see it happening before chapter 120 at least.

 

[MrMichael]

What I don't understand is the amount of hate readers give the kid.
I understand that he has tons of bad points: a dense harem protag, jealous & picks stupid fights with Akira, has a passive brainwashing aura
But there are plenty of worse characters from other series, like the spear hero (dumb harem protag, jealous & picks fights with MC), the pig (actively manipulates), the glasses guy in the tortoise arc (actively manipulates, brainwashes, guinea pigs his followers)
And they are actual adults, compared to the kid, who is a kid!
But the amount of hate he has is still greater than those guys
It's like he has a passive brainwashing aura that affects irl, but it makes pp hate him

I think he's just a magnet for unfounded hate since he is in many ways a copy of the 'classic MC' but without the classic plot armor and power of friendship powerup that always fixes everything or even a training montage that makes him overpowered while everyone else in the world doesn't get more powerful.

So those readers who, for whatever reasons (non-conformism, hating what's popular, etc.) hate 'classic MC' characters end up hating Katsuya like crazy.

I don't personally hate him, I think there's a compelling story that could be told with him, but I definitely hate how many pages we're wasting all the time to reinforce the fact he's supposed to be a mirror to the protagonist. Like they don't consider it enough to set it up, they have to repeat it over and over and over in ways that rarely add anything meaningful to either of the characters or the plot.

 

[Shinigamisama]

Too much yapping on the first half.
Even on their minds there's a battlefield and a lot more yapping.
And then when the action is finally starting, the chapter ends.

 

[Cpl_Facehugger]

What I don't understand is the amount of hate readers give the kid.

I reckon it's because he's an annoying nepobaby who falls upwards and has a harem despite no personality (and also tries to flirt with the girl who already likes Akira; I know that bugged me because he already has plenty of girls he already likes fawning over him), yet he doesn't have the skills to back his arrogance up. Hits too close to home for most folks because we've all met people like that.

I think there could be an interesting story told here, but it's just not well realized at all. Katsuya could make a good character foil for Akira - Katsuya was born into privilege, has his own AI waifu in his head, and does the same job vs Akira, who is basically just a puppet for his own AI waifu and who is from the slums... But where the writer erred is making Katsuya feel too much like a fuckup who only got where he is on connections, not because he's actually strong.

Akira had to basically sell his soul to a techno-succubus to get the power he did. Katsuya didn't.

I think if Katsuya's arrogance was at least partly well founded it wouldn't be so annoying. If his privilege actually resulted in a superlative monster hunter due to having the finest training, the best equipment, etc it'd be tolerable, but what we have here is Katsuya being delusional about his own capabilities despite how badly he fucked up very recently. He basically reads as a low key spoiled rich boy. He's not actively malicious about it the way some other characters in other works are, but it's really frustrating seeing so many characters fawn over him despite how lackluster his performance has been so far.

Especially because he had what would narratively be a huge humbling moment when someone important to him nearly died and had to be saved by his rival... And yet it's clear he hasn't learned anything. He's still the same arrogant twat he was before. He hasn't visibly thrown himself into learning how to do his damn job and becoming competent, and he's still being treated as a savior due mostly to his unearned political connections and given command authority over the lives of others on an important monster hunt after he's already fucked up once.

 

[sonoharayuki]

I think he's just a magnet for unfounded hate since he is in many ways a copy of the 'classic MC' but without the classic plot armor and power of friendship powerup that always fixes everything or even a training montage that makes him overpowered while everyone else in the world doesn't get more powerful.

So those readers who, for whatever reasons (non-conformism, hating what's popular, etc.) hate 'classic MC' characters end up hating Katsuya like crazy.

I don't personally hate him, I think there's a compelling story that could be told with him, but I definitely hate how many pages we're wasting all the time to reinforce the fact he's supposed to be a mirror to the protagonist. Like they don't consider it enough to set it up, they have to repeat it over and over and over in ways that rarely add anything meaningful to either of the characters or the plot.

Nobody hates him because of being "non conformist" or whatever bullshit, they hate him because they got drawn into a story with plenty of intrigue and interesting characters only to be stuck spending half of them looking at pointless teen melodrama. Katsuya's character is interesting sure, as a way to see the "classic mc" from an outside pov. But he is not remotely as interesting as getting this many panels would indicate... Now he's just an annoyance before we can back to the "real"story.

 

[sonoharayuki]

And everyone seems to have forgotten all the monologs saying that Akira seems weak while Katsuya seems strong.
Reading that, knowing that one has always active support while Akiras power of the same source not being active all the time is the reason for the discrepancy is frustrating. We know, based on what we've seen so far, (despite what characters in the story tell us) there is nothing better about Katsuya but he's still treated as such. I'd even say Akira clearly has a higher ceiling given his stronger connection to Alpha.

 

[Cpl_Facehugger]

And everyone seems to have forgotten all the monologs saying that Akira seems weak while Katsuya seems strong.
Reading that, knowing that one has always active support while Akiras power of the same source not being active all the time is the reason for the discrepancy is frustrating. We know, based on what we've seen so far, (despite what characters in the story tell us) there is nothing better about Katsuya but he's still treated as such. I'd even say Akira clearly has a higher ceiling given his stronger connection to Alpha.

Yes. Now that you mention it, I think this dissonance is a big part of why I find Katsuya so frustrating.

Everyone in the story says Katsuya seems strong despite how his first major operation was a disaster that Akira had to salvage. Katsuya's power is basically an informed attribute. We haven't seen it, and we've instead seen the opposite.

I don't mind Akira seeming weak because almost all of his strength comes from his connection to Alpha. Every time he does something amazing, she's basically piloting him like a meat robot (though him practicing on his own time without Alpha is probably why he's not as annoying as a character; he's at least trying to better himself.)

But Katsuya gets people calling him strong... Despite him being weak.

 

[Amariithynar]

You wouldnt know good writing if it took a shit on your face, this is genuinely just waste of pages
Some random girl fanboying over katsuya for 8 pages straight told us nothing we dont already know
Could have done the exact same thing if cut in half

You and people like you that can't conceive of a world beyond the main character is your problem. Not everything has to fellate the MC to be relevant to the story. Now go fuck off back to your troll hole.

And everyone seems to have forgotten all the monologs saying that Akira seems weak while Katsuya seems strong.
Reading that, knowing that one has always active support while Akiras power of the same source not being active all the time is the reason for the discrepancy is frustrating. We know, based on what we've seen so far, (despite what characters in the story tell us) there is nothing better about Katsuya but he's still treated as such. I'd even say Akira clearly has a higher ceiling given his stronger connection to Alpha.

This is incorrect; Akira's presence is actively being suppressed so that he appears less competent than he really is by his AI shard; Katsuya's is the inverse, where people's perception of him is inflated from what he is actually capable of by his AI shard. This is the reason for the dissonance between them, and only very perceptive people who has a sort of sixth sense that fights with the subconscious feeling engendered by the AI have noticed and are betting on Akira instead of Katsuya.

Yes. Now that you mention it, I think this dissonance is a big part of why I find Katsuya so frustrating.

Everyone in the story says Katsuya seems strong despite how his first major operation was a disaster that Akira had to salvage. Katsuya's power is basically an informed attribute. We haven't seen it, and we've instead seen the opposite.

I don't mind Akira seeming weak because almost all of his strength comes from his connection to Alpha. Every time he does something amazing, she's basically piloting him like a meat robot (though him practicing on his own time without Alpha is probably why he's not as annoying as a character; he's at least trying to better himself.)

But Katsuya gets people calling him strong... Despite him being weak.

See above, but also no, Akira is actually really good without Alpha backing him up; he just becomes ungodly good with her direct support. Remember that they spent a lot of time training him until he was doing it naturally without her in control of his suit.

 

[Kampfarsch]

You and people like you that can't conceive of a world beyond the main character is your problem. Not everything has to fellate the MC to be relevant to the story. Now go fuck off back to your troll hole.

Oh right we totally have the time to spend the next 800 chapters following a random construction worker build public toilets, because thats relevant and interesting

 

[PopeLaDope]

Ouch, sounds like someone about to lose his spotlight 🤣

 

[Zero_G]

Is it necessary for the autor to keep repeating on the topic of the rivalry over and over again?

 

[Kyte]

Yes. Now that you mention it, I think this dissonance is a big part of why I find Katsuya so frustrating.

Everyone in the story says Katsuya seems strong despite how his first major operation was a disaster that Akira had to salvage. Katsuya's power is basically an informed attribute. We haven't seen it, and we've instead seen the opposite.

I don't mind Akira seeming weak because almost all of his strength comes from his connection to Alpha. Every time he does something amazing, she's basically piloting him like a meat robot (though him practicing on his own time without Alpha is probably why he's not as annoying as a character; he's at least trying to better himself.)

But Katsuya gets people calling him strong... Despite him being weak.

You realize that's a plot point, right? They even explore it in these very chapters. He seems stronger than he is. Akira seems weaker than he is. And the experienced hunters are realizing the discrepancy and wondering what's up with them. (Not that the gaslighting AIs will ever let the truth slip)

 

[Amenohi]

Here's a question, if you were Katsuya's AI, what would YOU do? Limitations are everything Akira's Alpha can do, except communicate directly.

Katsuya's basic stats are: quite competent for his age, but low self esteem/needs to prove himself.

From what I can tell, both Alphas duty requires good combat skills and lots of resources. Katsuya's AI had a better starting point, but that one demerit of hers is why we are where we are with Katsuya.

 

[royraja]

Man, seeing yumina now, knowing what's happened to her later is just so sad. I fcking hate this katsuya mfer..

 

[Grikath]

I don't remember glasses lady being so manipulative in the WN.. then again its been ages since I read it lol. But yea no shes a real manipulative bitch eh?

She's managing teenage wannabe soldiers with ego's to match...
They don't do Reality™, and run on Hormones... How would you handle them other than manipulation careful Management of their fragile and oh-so-important Ego's.. ?

 

[xathu0904]

What I don't understand is the amount of hate readers give the kid.
I understand that he has tons of bad points: a dense harem protag, jealous & picks stupid fights with Akira, has a passive brainwashing aura
But there are plenty of worse characters from other series, like the spear hero (dumb harem protag, jealous & picks fights with MC), the pig (actively manipulates), the glasses guy in the tortoise arc (actively manipulates, brainwashes, guinea pigs his followers)
And they are actual adults, compared to the kid, who is a kid!
But the amount of hate he has is still greater than those guys
It's like he has a passive brainwashing aura that affects irl, but it makes pp hate him

to name up reason why, i can think of plenty. my main reason is how manchild katsuya is, act without thinking which lead to dead many other likeable character who not deserve to die like yumina

 

[xathu0904]

Oh right we totally have the time to spend the next 800 chapters following a random construction worker build public toilets, because thats relevant and interesting

yes, that how author do to LN, author literally stop whole flow of story in middle battle and write 3 page explain why akira can physically kick out missile that fly at speed of sound directly at him. kind of bump to me that you so slow realize that

 

[Kampfarsch]

yes, that how author do to LN, author literally stop whole flow of story in middle battle and write 3 page explain why akira can physically kick out missile that fly at speed of sound directly at him. kind of bump to me that you so slow realize that

ok and

 

[xathu0904]

ok and

and its the way how author write his ln. so after know that and you still continue read and complain about it then that will be on you