Yancha Gal no Anjou-san - Ch. 203 - Anjou-san Can't Go Home Until She Memorises All Kanji

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Man, we are at CH 203 and Seto has been dating Anjou for a while... I can't believe how much of a p**sy he still is, I wonder when he is going to act like an average teenager.

I can easily imagine him being married with 2 kids and still being flustered by any kind of contact. Fking virgin.

Well, now I feel better. I'm going to continue with my life.
You mean an american teenager?
 
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Seto has always been prudish, it's not like people's personalities suddenly change when they start dating. No matter how long you have been dating someone, its not like he won't be flustered by his gf asking him to kiss her thigh at school. Not all teenage boys think with their lower brain only.
I've been here from the start so it probably reads pretty different if you do it by month instead of all at once. Chapters are really short though, like 10-20 pages so I'd say not that much time has actually passed in story, they're basically still in the same year I think?

It is a slice of life comic so I'm kinda used to there being extremely slow progression, it basically comes with the genre.
But I think that helps make it more of an event in the moments when Seto does do something big (I was marking tf out when he laid into that guy for insulting Anjou) like this chapter itself is pretty huge, beginning Seto would never.

I may be a shy person myself, but there is still a point where I can feel comfortable around people and someone who still acts like that around his/her partner would make her/him uncomfortable, think of the signal you would be sending: "I feel better alone than with you".
I get that we are dealing with teenagers here and in most romcoms, but I think these stories make the mistake that this sort of shyness will be defeated in a future that exists outside the pages of the story, the author is unable to show them overcome it, plus you don't necessarily grow out of it and is not a relationship that fixes all this anxiety.

I was looking throught some researches about it
"Shyness and Marriage: Does Shyness
Shape Even Established Relationships?"
DOI: 10.1177/0146167210367489
Study Rationale and Summary of Results


How do shy individuals fare in their marital relationships?
The two studies presented here revealed consistent answers to this question: shyness is negatively associated with marital cognitions and outcomes.

Specifically, more shy spouses reported lower levels of relationship self-efficacy, which were associated with more serious marital problems, and those problems, in turn, were associated with lower levels of marital satisfaction (Study 1) and increases in marital problems that led to declines in marital satisfaction (Study 2).

Notably, these patterns emerged in two independent studies of marriages of slightly different durations and did not vary across husbands and wives, suggesting that they are robust (reliable across genders and time).

In contrast, partner shyness was unrelated to marital problems or marital satisfaction in both studies.
One explanation for this finding is that the problems that shy people leave unaddressed in their relationships are not the same problems that affect their partners’ satisfaction with the relationship.

For example, although a shy wife who does not address her concern that her husband does not respect her may experience decreases in marital satisfaction, her husband may remain perfectly content.
Consistent with this possibility, spouses’ reports of their marital problems were relatively independent, as at least 80% of the variance in spouses’ reports of the severity of their relationship problems was unique in both studies. ..[...]....

Theoretical and Practical Implications
Furthermore, the current studies demonstrated an important mechanism through which shyness affects established relationships.
Whereas shyness appears to affect the formation of new relationships through avoiding and engaging in negative behaviors during social encounters, shyness appears to affect established relationships through low levels of relationship self-efficacy that lead to worsening problems.
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Edit: link to research
https://sci-hub.st/10.1177/0146167210367489
These are real problem that the story should have the courage to face, you can't just cross your fingers and hope it goes away.
 
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"Deception, Conspire, Schemer"

Half expected the the next word out of her mouth to be "Subtle" cuase lord knows the author is.
 
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You mean an american teenager?
Nah, I mean average universally, not every japanese is shy and herbivore. I can understand him being shy in public, but being teased in private by you girlfriend for the 781th time and still being so weak to it is too much.

I'm not american btw.
 
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She didn't explicitly say the word but now she has a secret kink word that will bring her back to this moment.

I hope it's something like tube 筒
 
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the fact that you still feel something means that you are living and not just merely alive. it’s fine to feel feels every now and then.
I guess numb is not the best way to put it. Like, I've fulfilled my time doing things that I enjoy, and I dont think about it as much. The desire ain't there as strong and I dont fret over it like I did when I was a teenager.

I appreciate the kind words, brother
 
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I have been meaning to read this but looking through some chapters, they have been together for around 3 years (of publication, don't know about the Manga time) and over 50 chapters, but he still this awkward around her, that's just.....disarming, I don't think I want to read it anymore.

What's your opinion if you are a long time reader?
I'm 100% in the same boat as you. Seto saying in Ch.152 that he'd "study" so they can be more intimate without him second-guessing or some dumb shit, and he still acts shocked when his girlfriend, whose needs are NOT being met mind you, acts out in a desperate attempt for some satisfaction.

I'd say keep reading for Inuyama and Toyoda. The two have grown visibly as characters and nearly every interaction has been meaningful. Where Seto and Anjou spin their tires, Inuyama and Toyoda take each other's needs into account.

When they started dating, Toyoda told Inuyama that she couldn't do physical contact because it makes her nervous. Notice how he's never touched her or made inappropriate comments towards her, despite being a pervert. And how Toyoda emboldens and supports him, knowing full well he is a bit of a pervert but telling him that she loves him anyways and he shouldn't be ashamed. Meanwhile Seto spends half his time with Anjou moping about his future and the other half being shocked that his horny girlfriend wants any satisfaction from him.
 
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but I think these stories make the mistake that this sort of shyness will be defeated in a future that exists outside the pages
The author is slowly showing Seto overcome his shyness - as other folks have pointed out, Seto would have outright refused at the start of this manga & now he's shyly trying to go along w/ it. And half of Ana's forwardness is bluster - she teases/provokes Seto sure, but she's also roughly going along with Seto's pace.
 
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The author is slowly showing Seto overcome his shyness - as other folks have pointed out, Seto would have outright refused at the start of this manga & now he's shyly trying to go along w/ it. And half of Ana's forwardness is bluster - she teases/provokes Seto sure, but she's also roughly going along with Seto's pace.
Slowly ok, but 3 years? And dont' say "well they have only been together for X time", is 3 years of publication, how much time has actually passed is completely in the author's hand, imagine how every story would be if they were to show the entirety of day every chapter, again the point I made to which I backed up with a research still stands, that these problems may not just go away on their own, these character show legitimate issues that might not just be solved with the power of love but that would break or hurt a relationship overtime, I remember a family, the wife telling me how the husband didn't want to have intimacy on their wedding night and decades later it still hurt her and made her feel less of a woman.

This is just straining my credibility, does the author think he will run out of story if he makes him grow? Does he think that is normal for a guy in a relation to be like this for so long?

At least is not like "Keiken-zumi na Kimi to, Keiken Zero na Ore ga, Otsukiai Suru Hanashi", a couple that has been together for more than 2 years, finished high school, she already had sex with her past boyfriends while they still haven't.......

And to be clear, that is not what I am asking, look at 14-sai-no-koi, I really like how comfortable those 2 are and how they tend to communicate with each other, not all the time, they are both quite young, they got understandable flaws but they work them out together.
When you present 2 people where both or even just one of them is still so out of his element after all this time, constantly, I can't believe in their romance, I can't root for them, you [author] are sending me a signal that this is not going to work out, that is doomed to fail.
 
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Slowly ok, but 3 years? And dont' say "well they have only been together for X time", is 3 years of publication, how much time has actually passed is completely in the author's hand, imagine how every story would be if they were to show the entirety of day every chapter, again the point I made to which I backed up with a research still stands, that these problems may not just go away on their own, these character show legitimate issues that might not just be solved with the power of love but that would break or hurt a relationship overtime, I remember a family, the wife telling me how the husband didn't want to have intimacy on their wedding night and decades later it still hurt her and made her feel less of a woman.

This is just straining my credibility, does the author think he will run out of story if he makes him grow? Does he think that is normal for a guy in a relation to be like this for so long?

At least is not like "Keiken-zumi na Kimi to, Keiken Zero na Ore ga, Otsukiai Suru Hanashi", a couple that has been together for more than 2 years, finished high school, she already had sex with her past boyfriends while they still haven't.......

And to be clear, that is not what I am asking, look at 14-sai-no-koi, I really like how comfortable those 2 are and how they tend to communicate with each other, not all the time, they are both quite young, they got understandable flaws but they work them out together.
When you present 2 people where both or even just one of them is still so out of his element after all this time, constantly, I can't believe in their romance, I can't root for them, you [author] are sending me a signal that this is not going to work out, that is doomed to fail.
i think the thing that blows this argument out of the water is you somehow believing that 3 years of publication should mean they've been dating for 3 years? all the chapters we've gotten total has been like, a year tops, and they aren't dating for a significant amount of that. i know you said "don't say that" but like. get real.

our lovable protagonist is a total prudish loser boy, it's entirely reasonable for him to be struggling with physical contact, especially when his gf is known for teasing him at every opportunity. not to mention, she Enjoys his reactions! he's not failing to fulfill her needs or frustrating her, this doesn't somehow mean that on their wedding night he won't be able to perform; she's intentionally putting him in situations like this and being (as the vocab stated) cunning.


tldr this is significant character development for our hopeless nerd since the beginning, and also she likes her men vaguely pathetic
 
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look at 14-sai-no-koi, I really like how comfortable those 2 are and how they tend to communicate with each other, not all the time, they are both quite young, they got understandable flaws but they work them out together.
So do Seto and Anjou, they just do it in the way that fits their characterization. This includes Seto having hang ups about physical intimacy and some of those hang ups being tied into his hang ups about growing up.
 
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Man, we are at CH 203 and Seto has been dating Anjou for a while... I can't believe how much of a p**sy he still is, I wonder when he is going to act like an average teenager.

I can easily imagine him being married with 2 kids and still being flustered by any kind of contact. Fking virgin.

Well, now I feel better. I'm going to continue with my life.
I wholeheartedly agree, at this point it's getting ridiculous, idk how people can enjoy this manga and not call that shit out


MAN TF UP SETO
 
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I have been meaning to read this but looking through some chapters, they have been together for around 3 years (of publication, don't know about the Manga time) and over 50 chapters, but he still this awkward around her, that's just.....disarming, I don't think I want to read it anymore.

What's your opinion if you are a long time reader?
I agree with this, however we still have our side couple, so I tend to focus more on those 2
 

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