Anta to Osananajimi tte dake demo Iya nanoni!: Zekkou kara Hajimaru S-kyuu Bishoujo to no Gakuen Nariagari Seikatsu - Ch. 10

[lenovoaxioo]

The author trying to shift to attributing all her bad deeda from malice to to stupidity huh. . .

 

[notos]

hey i think Rua is going to win in the end

 

[DBAV]

hey i think Rua is going to win in the end

I do hope she redeems herself and start behaving like a decent human being, though it wasn't that way in the WN manga is not forced to imitate the source, but I'd rather have the other heroines winning by single or harem ending.

 

[Sunji27]

This is gonna be a heated triple threat battle

 

[Kaito57]

Somebody seriously needs to lay hands on Rua. A good slap (or 12)might help that attitude of hers.

That would probably just give her the biggest climaxing ahegao because Kaz never touched her that long lol

 

[Knighto]

ohh Rua is gonna do some dumb f*ckery again ... give me more Amane author!! I need to see her reaction to getting one upped by Aya

 

[Nivek]

Thanks for the chapter,

 

[HyperSonic0509]

Aya no! There's no fixing Rua! 😩

 

[JackWasGone]

I still wish the worst upon this Tesco ass Nagatoro

Disrespecting Nagatoro like that in the big 26 is crazy 💔

Keep my wife's name out yo mouth twin

 

[radstylix]

And?

Antagonists of all manner of manga series have actually killed people and then were redeemed.

I'm not saying that it was always well-received by readers/audiences in those instances, and I'm not saying that would necessarily be the case here, were Rua to get the same treatment from the author.

I'm saying I could see a future wherein the author writes out a redemption arc for Rua. Perhaps, it could even be done well where it makes sense. It's not a certainty, of course, but I'm not certain this series has the feel of a title where any of the primary cast will be left behind, as it were.

And I really don't understand how Ayacha (and you) brushed of being almost-murdered wayyyyyyy too easily 😅.

Other series existing should have no bearing in this series, but anyway... it's not even done in a comedic way like in, I dunno, Nisekoi, where one of the girls constantly totes (and points) a gun at the MC constantly. But with Rua... I can actually see her murdering/ordering someone to get murdered for real.

So yes, I am disappointed with the lame redemption setup with Ayacha being impossibly forgiving. True redemption means Rua turning herself in for attempted murder, or at least making amends. Just saying "sorry for almost killing you" like she did in ch.9 ain't gonna cut it, and that apology was immediately made useless anyway when she wanted to kill her again this chapter when she literally tried to borrow the bodyguard again for another attempt. And she only apologized because she might get in trouble with her grandfather for using her bodyguard wrongly, not because, ya know, murder is wrong.

Fine, it's too early in the series to tell, so maybe the author will be able to write a good redemption for her later, but Rua just got away with an actual murder attempt, and planned on another one. I really don't see how the she can be forgiven for that...

 

[radstylix]

I've actually turned around on Rua. Sure she's a horrible person but she's also very pitiful because she hasn't been properly taught how to behave. All her "friends" are fake suck-ups. Her actual parents are out of the picture as far as we know. From the way she tries to not get on her grandpa's bad side it suggests that she's growing up in a household with distorted rules where it is strict in certain aspects but extremely lax everywhere else. So, it isn't surprising she's a brat.

Like I said to another commenter, I respect you guys for wanting Rua to be redempted as much as I loathe Rua.

You guys are infinitely more compassionate than me, but I really don't see a way out for her after she literally just tried to murder someone... and wanted a second attempt in this chapter by trying to borrow the bodyguard again.

 

[UdenEmpati]

And I really don't understand how Ayacha (and you) brushed of being almost-murdered wayyyyyyy too easily 😅.

Other series existing should have no bearing in this series, but anyway... it's not even done in a comedic way like in, I dunno, Nisekoi, where one of the girls constantly totes (and points) a gun at the MC constantly. But with Rua... I can actually see her murdering/ordering someone to get murdered for real.

So yes, I am disappointed with the lame redemption setup with Ayacha being impossibly forgiving. True redemption means Rua turning herself in for attempted murder, or at least making amends. Just saying "sorry for almost killing you" like she did in ch.9 ain't gonna cut it, and that apology was immediately made useless anyway when she wanted to kill her again this chapter when she literally tried to borrow the bodyguard again for another attempt. And she only apologized because she might get in trouble with her grandfather for using her bodyguard wrongly, not because, ya know, murder is wrong.

Fine, it's too early in the series to tell, so maybe the author will be able to write a good redemption for her later, but Rua just got away with an actual murder attempt, and planned on another one. I really don't see how the she can be forgiven for that...

I mean, you said it in your last paragraph - we're on chapter 10, haven't even met 2 of the 4 picture-previewed heroines, and (I'm assuming) there's still an entire arc of Kazuma learning how to be a "normal emoting human being", on top of everything else.

All we've seen of Rua is that she's a spoiled child due to the doting of her (I'm sure) well-meaning but oblivious grandfather, whose perspective on things is very likely warped by the staggering amount of wealth and prestige & power he possesses. That alone would indicate that Rua's a fallible character, set up to fail from the start by having an incredibly warped perspective & moral compass, when she's probably never been told "no" once in her life, as anyone who would was likely simply removed and/or erased by her grandfather who sees "normal" people as ants--and thus Rua sees them the same by way of her entire upbringing.

Again, I'm not saying that she'd be deserving of it - but when I say 'all manner of manga titles', I mean that this isn't exactly out-of-the-norm for anything resembling this series, and it's seemingly rather common for antagonists of all stripes to get some sort of "clean-up" to their image, in the meta sense of how comics tend to be written in Japan. That, I believe, has bearing, because the author here would be writing at least in part to their audience and target market, and if enough titles are doing that sort of thing and are well-received, then it's a successful formula to try and rehabilitate even the bad guys, especially when they're "cute girls" like Rua objectively is (even if it's only currently on the outside).

Also - sure, she attempted to murder someone. But remember: that's not exactly outlandish in the context of this story, because the MC, who is a teenager, is taking out multiple grown men, who are presumed to be combat trained, as a matter-of-course in the process of "protecting" the first heroine we meet during her debut as an idol. He's been brainwashed and conditioned and personally trained by some Raz al Ghul-coded relative of Rua's family to be a perfect killing machine, and as a result half of this manga is just a straight up powerleveling battle run. When the protagonit's abilities are described as "S-Tiered" in the title itself, then the "antagonist" going to the extent of homicide is just matching the stakes the "good guy" himself is setting.
Sure, he's not killed anyone (in the same way Batman's not killed anyone), but then again - neither has Rua.

And I could be wrong; I'm just saying that the way this chapter played out, I think it's non-zero percent as far as that happening.
I don't even think it'd be correct; maybe you misinterpreted what I said initially, but I don't personally think it should happen, it's just the vibe I picked up.

That being the case, I'll just leave it off here because I've spent more time typing this out than I think is necessary when I'm not even certain it warranted arguing over in the first place.

 

[zerio]

Lol the bottom right panels are nicely placed.
https://mangadex.org/chapter/bd010773-0b5d-4983-b232-f8d7dee5c694/7

"there are amazing people who don't have any title or status" e.g. Kazuma

"and the opposite is true too" e.g. Rua
What a burn lol

 

[radstylix]

I mean, you said it in your last paragraph - we're on chapter 10, haven't even met 2 of the 4 picture-previewed heroines, and (I'm assuming) there's still an entire arc of Kazuma learning how to be a "normal emoting human being", on top of everything else.

All we've seen of Rua is that she's a spoiled child due to the doting of her (I'm sure) well-meaning but oblivious grandfather, whose perspective on things is very likely warped by the staggering amount of wealth and prestige & power he possesses. That alone would indicate that Rua's a fallible character, set up to fail from the start by having an incredibly warped perspective & moral compass, when she's probably never been told "no" once in her life, as anyone who would was likely simply removed and/or erased by her grandfather who sees "normal" people as ants--and thus Rua sees them the same by way of her entire upbringing.

Again, I'm not saying that she'd be deserving of it - but when I say 'all manner of manga titles', I mean that this isn't exactly out-of-the-norm for anything resembling this series, and it's seemingly rather common for antagonists of all stripes to get some sort of "clean-up" to their image, in the meta sense of how comics tend to be written in Japan. That, I believe, has bearing, because the author here would be writing at least in part to their audience and target market, and if enough titles are doing that sort of thing and are well-received, then it's a successful formula to try and rehabilitate even the bad guys, especially when they're "cute girls" like Rua objectively is (even if it's only currently on the outside).

Also - sure, she attempted to murder someone. But remember: that's not exactly outlandish in the context of this story, because the MC, who is a teenager, is taking out multiple grown men, who are presumed to be combat trained, as a matter-of-course in the process of "protecting" the first heroine we meet during her debut as an idol. He's been brainwashed and conditioned and personally trained by some Raz al Ghul-coded relative of Rua's family to be a perfect killing machine, and as a result half of this manga is just a straight up powerleveling battle run. When the protagonit's abilities are described as "S-Tiered" in the title itself, then the "antagonist" going to the extent of homicide is just matching the stakes the "good guy" himself is setting.
Sure, he's not killed anyone (in the same way Batman's not killed anyone), but then again - neither has Rua.

And I could be wrong; I'm just saying that the way this chapter played out, I think it's non-zero percent as far as that happening.
I don't even think it'd be correct; maybe you misinterpreted what I said initially, but I don't personally think it should happen, it's just the vibe I picked up.

That being the case, I'll just leave it off here because I've spent more time typing this out than I think is necessary when I'm not even certain it warranted arguing over in the first place.

While your vibe about her is that she can be redeemed, my impression of her since the first chapter is Malty from Shield Hero. Like Malty, even if she is punished, she never learns. As a fellow writer myself, I can tell she's that type of character... so I am surprised the author gave her a IMO clumsy path to her redemption. IMO the author should've just told her bodyguard to beat Hiiragi up. Attempted murder is in unredeemable territory for most characters 😅. I would be impressed if the author manages to write a good redemption arc for her even with that, but it's such a high hurdle I just don't see it.

Yeah it's fine bro. We're not arguing, just discussing the story and commenting is just for fun (and educational for writers). This ain't Xwitter after all! I did spend some time thinking about my previous reply too. I don't mind leaving it like this if that's what you want, good talk. 👋

 

[Graywing]

The dialogue here is just straight up unbelievable. Does the author really believe that teens talk/think like that. Also this girl literally tried to have her killed. Why is that being overlooked? I think the author can only rely on shock value as there's no way a person would be okay and trying to befriend someone after they tried to murder them. What is the editor doing?

 

[Friendly-Sentence710]

Rua haters need to chill out. You all are thinking about this wrong.
She's not a tsundere brat bully - She's an advanced level girlfailure.


Also: If Rua is about to stroke out from Ayacha giving him a kiss on the cheek, hopefully she never learns what went down at the cafe.

Also give Rei and Sakura more screen time!

YEah what is this "not allowed to use Rei anymore" bullshit? How are we going to get more of Kaz melting the kuudere assassin if she's not sent into situation where they'll interact?!

Somebody seriously needs to lay hands on Rua. A good slap (or 12)might help that attitude of hers.

The handmaidens at Castle Anthrax know the solution to brats. Its the same as turning on the grail-shaped beacon.

I've actually turned around on Rua. Sure she's a horrible person but she's also very pitiful because she hasn't been properly taught how to behave. All her "friends" are fake suck-ups. Her actual parents are out of the picture as far as we know. From the way she tries to not get on her grandpa's bad side it suggests that she's growing up in a household with distorted rules where it is strict in certain aspects but extremely lax everywhere else. So, it isn't surprising she's a brat.

See above: She's not a brat, she's a cataclysm level girlfailure.

Another chapter where this twintail bitch is still alive and hasn't eaten shit and died yet even rent a trash netorase chapter was much more interesting than this

Brah, listen:
If she dies, how will she suffer from having to watch as Kaz chads his way to a harem of girls she viewed as beneath her, while absolutely ignoring her? Dead is nothing compared with needing to live with the knowledge she had him and ruined it.
Think before you type, man.

Also this girl literally tried to have her killed. Why is that being overlooked?

Because this is a comedy manga so a lot of things are turned up to 11 for comedic effect. Aya is never really put in any real danger because the slapstick resolution happened quickly, so the light tone of the manga never falters (even if its really fucked up if you think about & take it to the logical conclusion)

This is like saying you can't believe Larry hasn't sued Moe for physical and emotional abuse.

 

[UdenEmpati]

The dialogue here is just straight up unbelievable. Does the author really believe that teens talk/think like that. Also this girl literally tried to have her killed. Why is that being overlooked? I think the author can only rely on shock value as there's no way a person would be okay and trying to befriend someone after they tried to murder them. What is the editor doing?

The main character's a brainwashed teenage genius supersoldier who was raised, trained, and conditioned to be a billionaire granddaughter's perfect husband/aide/bodyguard, and said billionaire also owns a multi-conglomorate organization that both runs the school they all go to, and all the entertainment industries that the kids somehow are a part of.

This whole story isn't meant to be believable in the conventional sense. Logic need not apply when considering their dialogue or their thought processes.

 

[rob1610]

"Is she going to be okay?"
No and that's been obvious since chapter fucking one. xD

Not to mention Ayacha really has done a 180 and made a big leap into 1st place for "best girl" huh?

 

[REMasher]

She's determined to stay unredeemable, hahaha, no matter how much the story tries to push her towards it.

 

[Grishnag]

Dang, she might have to learn empathy or something.

That's impossible, you can't gain empathy untill you 32 years old