I personally think that the original premise of Hikari and Yuu having a romance is still fine. While Hikari is flawed for how she handled this incident, the issue doesnt lie with them, but rather with Yami. I still maintain that Yuu has done nothing wrong throughout this series so far. He's actually handled things remarkably maturely for his age, considering the absolutely terrible way his first girlfriend has treated him.
I already stated it before, Yami is in every way the worse one here. Not even comparable to Yuu. I also saga in a previous chapter’s comms, at this point she can’t be saved by Yuu and Hikari anymore, she willingly pushed them away several times already. Don’t make me say what I haven’t said, I’m not a Yami simp.Oh yeah, because no victim has ever defended their abuser before /s. Note that this incident is literally after months of ghosting from his first girlfriend, someone who routinely lied to him during their relationship and who used him for her own pleasure. Abuse is exactly the right word to use for how Yami has treated Yuu.
I mean, I get it, you think Yami is perfect and that Yuu is the devil, so you would probably not even consider her slitting his throat to be assault. But she did assault him. And she did kiss him after he was about to leave her. I think it's clear that he never welcomed this kiss. He never returned her kiss. He was only stunned and sad after having been yelled at, hit and forcibly kissed when he never asked for any of it.
She was present at the door, hearing Yami yell all kinds of shit at him. She could hear the slap. And, most importantly, she talked to Yami afterwards, learning what a piece of shit Yami was to him.
She hears how Yami talks about him, lies or not, she knows how she has treated him, she heard their exchange. Yet, she is more worried about letting Yami be happy with Yuu than the fact that she is clearly abusive towards him. She knows that Yami is lying to herself, but she also knows that Yami is hurting Yuu. She literally admonishes her for it. And she is clearly struggling with being honest with herself, knowing that she doesnt want Yuu to be taken by Yami.
Here's how she is treating this, after finding all of this out:
Her feelings are understandable, but she is a very bad friend to Yuu. And she is still acting like a spoiled brat, expecting him to come to her after she rejected him so coldly. She knows that he was hurt on that day. She knows that Yami treated him like shit. She has all the information she needs.
The fact still remains, that in literally all of this, only Yuu has been victimized by the other two. Yami, for obvious reasons already stated, and Hikari for not looking out for him and coldly rejecting him, knowing what he went through, literally pushing him onto the ground. He has done NOTHING to either of them.
I said this as a joke:
Yall literally proved me right. I've changed my mind, I'm impressed with the determination yall have to stick to your love for this Yami character. Even after being shown unequivocally horrible actions from her to the point that pretty much no one is able to defend her actions anymore, yall still stick to it. Though, I guess it comes down to directing hate towards Yuu instead to avoid speaking about the Yami sized elephant in the room, because she is impossible to defend at this point.
I know that me writing this all down is pointless. Even if Yami murdered his entire family and if Hikari spat in his face because he was sad over it, yall would still find a reason to claim that he is the one at fault and they did nothing wrong. That's just how yall operate, I've seen it before. But it is impressive, just how far yall are willing to go to keep this delusion alive after being shown just how terrible Yami is.
I missed several chapters bloodbaths by reading it days later, let me enjoy this
please keep going. i love it keep up the good work. thanks for the meal
召し上がれ xD
Hikari knows Yuu and Yami loved each other. She knows Yami still likes him, even with all the shit she said to her. As I said before, she doesn’t believe everything Yami told her, this is why she said to Yami that she shouldn’t disrespect Yuu. She believes he wouldn’t date her if they didn’t love each other (and she’s right. Hikari is basically a saint who can forgive pretty much everything, even someone that adding her as a prostitute. You can’t expect her to go back to Yuu when she doesn’t know about his feelings.
Even Yuu acknowledges that he hurt Hikari and Aya. Whether it's fair that they feel hurt by his actions is a whole different discussion, but it does not negate that Hikari is hurt by his lying and Aya is hurt by what she perceives as him not being as in love with her as she is with him.
Yeah, because he tends to blame himself unfairly. How in the world did he hurt Aya? You'd have to be from another planet to think that, basically subscribing to her unhinged gaslighting that she poured out against him when she assaulted him. Seriously. Are you saying that them getting their feelings hurt over the circumstances (that they mostly created themselves) is a valid reason for them to treat him like this? So far, the only person that has actually been hurt by any of the others is Yuu. Him "lying" is a completely unreasonable accusation, as I've already made clear before.
Hikari was there when Yami slapped Yuu. She at the very least heard her yell at him. She actually talked to Yami afterwards and heard from her very own mouth how she sees Yuu and how she has treated him. It doesnt matter how much she knows about Yami lying to herself, she still knows that Yami treated Yuu this way. That he was some "loser for her to use." Do you really think that Hikari is so stupid that she genuinely thinks that that was some happy reunion for Yuu? She should be able to tell that the person who actively betrayed both her and Yuu was not a good partner to Yuu.
The only thing I wrote was that Yuu acknowledged that he hurt Hikari and Aya.
yeah because you were some sort of "chad" in high school where you understood everything and would totally act normal if an older attractive girl was giving you attention
Yeah, but you cant seriously be using that as proof that he did? He's clearly taking on blame for something he didnt do. Again, how in the world can any sane person claim that he hurt Aya? That would be like looking at the scene where she slapped him and blamed him for her ghosting him and thinking "yeah, she's right, he should have just fought harder to find her when she ghosted him, it's totally his fault that she ghosted him." Like, come on, this is an absurd conversation. She quite literally abused him, not the other way around.
This time comments are terrible. No discussion of the chapter whatsoever, just some meta shitflinging and
Even if I were to agree with you that it's not his fault and their feelings aren't justified, the narrative makes clear that Hikari and Aya feel hurt by Yuu's actions and that Yuu acknowledges that they feel hurt because of his actions.
Nothing happens that we didn't already know about? Also it's usually like us and port going in circles & we already discussed this chapter to death.
When a chapter drops, people usually leave some comments about what happened and use chapter's contents to support their arguments. But here it just went to "who is to blame" without any regards to what's in the chapter, absolutely detached from it.
I think the argument jumped off from Aya's internal monologue about how she doesn't want Yuu to just give in - far as I can tell, that spiraled into "does her toxicity negate his agency?"
