Mangadex to purge titles for legal reasons

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Okay, that would piss me and my group off, and would have to shut down our operation here.
As far as I know the group can mass delete all chapters they provided and without proper monetary exchange it would make a case against the site itself to which it would at least make them take down all material that they have, but just to be sure I would start looking for other possible places to have your group work on.
 
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I edited my previous comment because I went back and checked and some of those things are still present. The new terms specify that they don't claim ownership over contributions, but that posting here grants them an irrevocable license to resell it as they please.

See https://mangadex.org/compliance/terms, particularly paragraph 7. They also added the (Social Network) tag at the end of paragraph 7, but it's unclear what that means.
Still by the terms it would not work for actual group translation.

"We do not assert any ownership over your Contributions. You retain full ownership of all of your Contributions and any intellectual property rights or other proprietary rights associated with your Contributions."

It's basically a way to justify the subscription/supporter monetization thing they got going own right now using the work of other people and just being a place where those works are, but the actual translation are still from the people that produced it. Also even if they made changes to the TOS anything publicized before the change would be exempt of that.
 
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As far as I know the group can mass delete all chapters they provided and without proper monetary exchange it would make a case against the site itself to which it would at least make them take down all material that they have, but just to be sure I would start looking for other possible places to have your group work on.
Honestly, when it came to 1LDK chapter 14 and 15, I swear Project-H almost 1:1 ripped off my group's translations, then gave up for some reason after releasing chapter 15. Probably found out that our group was still working on it, and is current. I always wondered what the reason was.
 
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Why does this remind me of the BS crunchyroll and FAKKU pulled off before they went full corpo?
FAKKU at least kept all their lolisho content, all they did was remove the tag. Which does make it a pain in the ass to find but its still there. I'd know because I have straight up bought physical loli H-manga from them pretty recently.
 
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There are several jurisdictions that consider ficional depictions of underage characters in sexual acts to be illegal.
Again, this is a terrible argument because there are significantly more countries have homosexual content illegal. If you're doing this to comply with international laws, then I have to ask again, when are you going to remove all the yaoi and yuri manga?
 

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I edited my previous comment because I went back and checked and some of those things are still present. The new terms specify that they don't claim ownership over contributions, but that posting here grants them an irrevocable license to resell it as they please.

See https://mangadex.org/compliance/terms, particularly paragraph 7. They also added the (Social Network) tag at the end of paragraph 7, but it's unclear what that means.
Could the "Social Network" stipulation be the reason why they introduced the new social feed?
 
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It's about law and compliance with it. If you jerk it off to little kids, go and do it elsewhere; there are sites that specialise in that.

Go to the search page and sort by oldest uploads then come back here and tell me what this site "specialises" in exactly.

(In case they get removed it's a page full of Mature rated Loli Doujinshi)
 
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Still by the terms it would not work for actual group translation.

"We do not assert any ownership over your Contributions. You retain full ownership of all of your Contributions and any intellectual property rights or other proprietary rights associated with your Contributions."

It's basically a way to justify the subscription/supporter monetization thing they got going own right now using the work of other people and just being a place where those works are, but the actual translation are still from the people that produced it. Also even if they made changes to the TOS anything publicized before the change would be exempt of that.
Yeah, it's a bit contradictory. Within the same paragraph they say:

By posting your Contributions to any part of the Social Network or making Contributions accessible to the Social Network by linking your account from the Site to any of your other social networking accounts, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to us an unrestricted, unlimited, irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, royalty-free, fully-paid, worldwide right, and license to host, use, copy, reproduce, disclose, publish, broadcast, retitle, archive, store, cache, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, transmit, excerpt (in whole or in part), and distribute such Contributions (including, without limitation, your image and voice) for any purpose, commercial, advertising, or otherwise, and to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such Contributions, and grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing. The use and distribution may occur in any media formats and through any media channels. This license is required for us to operate the Social Network and permit monetization.

But then they later added:

Only content that has been made available via subscriptions is covered by the commercial elements of this license. This license does not permit MangaDex to sell your content to any third party not subscribed to you. Since subscriptions are not available on MangaDex, MangaDex does not have a license to sell your content.

But notice this is contingent on the fact that subscriptions are not [yet] available on MD. And if MD does not have a license to sell your content, then what's the point of the first half of the paragraph talking about automatically granting them an irrevocable license to do exactly that?

The complete lack of transparency or explanation from the mods about what this actually means is the worst part.
 
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Except mangas with no official translations. That's the category my group sticks it's nose in. Unless an overseas publisher wants to own the whole Katts Work catalog like Fakku did with Wanimanga, we'll just continue with what we're working on, and hope that if it happens, we get picked up to be the legit translators of their work.
Last I check Fakku could no longer host most of "problematic" contents since late last year
 
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Do you guys not know that like 80% of your stuff is about first year highschoolers and of that like 90% of it is like absurdly sexuallized?

Like I understand this is not a real rule and the only enforcement will be like "our team thinks this manga (is gross/makes us look bad") but I still think you should nuke most of your catalogue anyways just so I know not to waste my time here.
 
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Last I check Fakku could no longer host most of "problematic" contents since late last year
Yeah, I wish Jacob and his friends got had because of that. I always wanted them to taken down a peg or a billion. The hypocrites of Fakku and Irodori are the worst of the internet in my eyes. At least the situation here so far isn't as bad. It sounds like they're still on our side at MD, but this stance they're taking is all wrong.
 
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