Ochinai Yogore wo Boku wa Nanto Yobeba Yokatta noka - Ch. 14

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Okay, so... there's a justification for doing this, thematically. She's an effective foil to the primary female love interest since she is determined to learn where his boundaries are and then to never, ever cross them, taking his lead in all things, making sure she's well-stocked in hygiene products and so on.

She's going to lose, obviously, since the story wants to make a point about the importance of coming out of your shell, braving the wide world outside of your comfort zone, having a partner who doesn't just accomodate and enable your weakpoints, but allows you to grow beyond them. Allows you to face your fears, instead of simply evading them. When Nakayama cut contact with her in school and isolated himself from her, she ultimately went along with it. That was the path of least resistance for both of them, but the path of least resistance very rarely leads to true happiness. Arata continued to be isolated in school... right up until he met Tamaki.

Tsuzuri's shocked reaction at Arata making friends in school says everything. The fact alone she thought this was impossible for him makes her unworthy of victory. It's not even a proper love triangle at this point. It's clear Tsuzuri is excellent friend material, but if she was gunning for anything more, she's way too late on the draw.

For those familiar with Bloom Into You - she is the Sayaka of this story. Sayaka put everything she had into being Touko's support, but was blind to the fact Touko was pushing herself way past the breaking point, or refused to see it, because it would have risked confrontation. Only Yuu had the guts to actively go against Touko to save her from herself.

Doesn't mean you can't still feel bad for her, of course.
 
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Meh. We gonna introduce this nice girl to watch her suffer. Yeah, yeah, it'll move the story along but also, we were doing just fine without this added character. The author was doing a fine job of exploring character depth and there's a path we get to understand more about Arata without having a girl that of course, has feelings for him and didn't talk to him for long periods of time but is now coming back when MC is gaining his own ground is destined to lose.
 
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Okay, so... there's a justification for doing this, thematically. She's an effective foil to the primary female love interest since she is determined to learn where his boundaries are and then to never, ever cross them, taking his lead in all things, making sure she's well-stocked in hygiene products and so on.

She's going to lose, obviously, since the story wants to make a point about the importance of coming out of your shell, braving the wide world outside of your comfort zone, having a partner who doesn't just accomodate and enable your weakpoints, but allows you to grow beyond them. Allows you to face your fears, instead of simply evading them. When Nakayama cut contact with her in school and isolated himself from her, she ultimately went along with it. That was the path of least resistance for both of them, but the path of least resistance very rarely leads to true happiness. Arata continued to be isolated in school... right up until he met Tamaki.

Tsuzuri's shocked reaction at Arata making friends in school says everything. The fact alone she thought this was impossible for him makes her unworthy of victory. It's not even a proper love triangle at this point. It's clear Tsuzuri is excellent friend material, but if she was gunning for anything more, she's way too late on the draw.

For those familiar with Bloom Into You - she is the Sayaka of this story. Sayaka put everything she had into being Touko's support, but was blind to the fact Touko was pushing herself way past the breaking point, or refused to see it, because it would have risked confrontation. Only Yuu had the guts to actively go against Touko to save her from herself.

Doesn't mean you can't still feel bad for her, of course.
What a great analysis instead of "Childhood friend comes = story bad"
 
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Tsuzuri's shocked reaction at Arata making friends in school says everything. The fact alone she thought this was impossible for him makes her unworthy of victory. It's not even a proper love triangle at this point. It's clear Tsuzuri is excellent friend material, but if she was gunning for anything more, she's way too late on the draw.

I think that this is a little harsh, no? She knew him to put people at a distance because he didn't like germs, it isn't a stretch to think that he wouldn't have friends because of how she observed him. Sure, she wanted to break down the wall as best she could, but she also realized she needed to be considerate to him. Either way if she had pushed he might have been put off and not want to talk to her, and her being considerate towards him made him push her away anyway. She fought a losing battle with him at the time.

Now that he is out of his shell even a little bit she has the ability to get closer to him again and this time he may not push her back.

Not saying she will "win" (who cares about that?), but maybe the two of them can have a legit friendship where he doesn't need to be so wary of germs and distance.
 
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This manga is so good that the author managed to create another heroine that's super compelling. It just sucks that there are now two of them and that she will be losing (not that I want her to win over Nishino, I mean, come on, we've already built up this relationship). I admire the author's skills, but I've got mixed feelings about this xD
 
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I think that this is a little harsh, no? She knew him to put people at a distance because he didn't like germs, it isn't a stretch to think that he wouldn't have friends because of how she observed him. Sure, she wanted to break down the wall as best she could, but she also realized she needed to be considerate to him. Either way if she had pushed he might have been put off and not want to talk to her, and her being considerate towards him made him push her away anyway. She fought a losing battle with him at the time.

Now that he is out of his shell even a little bit she has the ability to get closer to him again and this time he may not push her back.

Not saying she will win in any of this, but maybe the two of them can have a legit friendship where he doesn't need to be so wary of germs and distance.
Yeah, I read her as a nice person but perhaps not as outgoing as the main girl. She has a more lowkey personality and kept her distance after the MC distanced himself. I dont want her to "win" either (ideally, we wouldnt even have a win or lose situation here), but I feel bad for her.
 
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Yeah, I read her as a nice person but perhaps not as outgoing as the main girl. She has a more lowkey personality and kept her distance after the MC distanced himself. I dont want her to "win" either (ideally, we wouldnt even have a win or lose situation here), but I feel bad for her.

Yeah, I feel bad for her too. She so far does seem genuinely nice. She didn't say a bad thing about him to her friends in that section and in fact was coming up with the ways they can be around him. As far as can be seen she didn't say anything bad about him after they stopped talking too.

She just wanted to be close and friendly with him and knew the only way to do so was at his pace instead of her own. She was considerate towards that and it sadly still ended in "failure". She must have respected his decision to not be like they were because she maybe just thought that was his pace and she had to match it.
 
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I think that this is a little harsh, no? She knew him to put people at a distance because he didn't like germs, it isn't a stretch to think that he wouldn't have friends because of how she observed him. Sure, she wanted to break down the wall as best she could, but she also realized she needed to be considerate to him. Either way if she had pushed he might have been put off and not want to talk to her, and her being considerate towards him made him push her away anyway. She fought a losing battle with him at the time.

Now that he is out of his shell even a little bit she has the ability to get closer to him again and this time he may not push her back.

Not saying she will "win" (who cares about that?), but maybe the two of them can have a legit friendship where he doesn't need to be so wary of germs and distance.
Well, we don't know it was a losing battle, since she didn't fight it. And neither did Arata, so it's true you really can't blame her. I did note she was excellent friend material, didn't I?

But Arata didn't exactly come out of his shell on his own, it was Tamaki who accomplished that. That's the reason Tsuzuri can't win - it wouldn't be fair to Tamaki.

Obviously the author is to blame, as the one who decided Tsuzuri was going to meekly accept Arata's self-isolation and be content walking the path of least resistance. If this wasn't a mere backstory and she wasn't simply a foil for the MC, she could have been braver, she could have fought, and she could have been the catalyst for Arata's personal growth herself. That her presence in this story serves a purpose doesn't mean it's the only way that purpose could have been accomplished. I don't like watching perfectly good waifus suffer either!
 
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You never got choose because of the dumbass friends you choose to be around. If you would have stood up for him he wouldn't have put a barrier between yall.
 
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without having a girl that of course, has feelings for him and didn't talk to him for long periods of time but is now coming back when MC is gaining his own ground is destined to lose.
They have been in contact the whole time. It is stated in this chapter that they do text and that they meet up every summer without fail. They never didn't talk for long period of times. She was consistently there and didn't just randomly come back.

Introducing such seemingly important characters at a later date is always a bit asspull and annoying but that is a whole nother discussion.

I personally am a GIGA hater of random second "love interests" (I honestly believe calling them just "obstacle" would be the correct term 99/100 times, same with almost all Shoujo) but this one here is actually quite well done and I like her, what she is to MC and most importantly how she contrasts the actual female lead.
 
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Okay, so... there's a justification for doing this, thematically. She's an effective foil to the primary female love interest since she is determined to learn where his boundaries are and then to never, ever cross them, taking his lead in all things, making sure she's well-stocked in hygiene products and so on.

She's going to lose, obviously, since the story wants to make a point about the importance of coming out of your shell, braving the wide world outside of your comfort zone, having a partner who doesn't just accomodate and enable your weakpoints, but allows you to grow beyond them. Allows you to face your fears, instead of simply evading them. When Nakayama cut contact with her in school and isolated himself from her, she ultimately went along with it. That was the path of least resistance for both of them, but the path of least resistance very rarely leads to true happiness. Arata continued to be isolated in school... right up until he met Tamaki.

Tsuzuri's shocked reaction at Arata making friends in school says everything. The fact alone she thought this was impossible for him makes her unworthy of victory. It's not even a proper love triangle at this point. It's clear Tsuzuri is excellent friend material, but if she was gunning for anything more, she's way too late on the draw.

For those familiar with Bloom Into You - she is the Sayaka of this story. Sayaka put everything she had into being Touko's support, but was blind to the fact Touko was pushing herself way past the breaking point, or refused to see it, because it would have risked confrontation. Only Yuu had the guts to actively go against Touko to save her from herself.

Doesn't mean you can't still feel bad for her, of course.
Very much this ^^^

People here just boiling this down to losing childhood friend or love triangle is missing on a lot of nuance :/
 
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I'm still very much vouching for messy girl but I already feel really bad for the childhood friend
 
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Sure..? I guess you can add a spicy arc .....aight...
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