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I'm not against settings that exist for erotica but I'd like them to make sense?
Like a setting where you have those with higher level/power just using and abusing those below them is fine (okay most of the time its trash, but like at least consistent). A setting where because they die a lot of times they are hedonistic with loose morals could be fine as well. But instead it seems to be just all the girls and women (because the teachers are included in this) exist solely for the male students to have sex with? Like if it was a thing of hey you need the power to defend yourself so we don't step in that's horrible but can make sense for if you are doing a dark fantasy adult setting.
This story is too porn brained to even be passable slop.
Like a setting where you have those with higher level/power just using and abusing those below them is fine (okay most of the time its trash, but like at least consistent). A setting where because they die a lot of times they are hedonistic with loose morals could be fine as well. But instead it seems to be just all the girls and women (because the teachers are included in this) exist solely for the male students to have sex with? Like if it was a thing of hey you need the power to defend yourself so we don't step in that's horrible but can make sense for if you are doing a dark fantasy adult setting.
This story is too porn brained to even be passable slop.
Idk what happen with this manga being so roasted. It have a 5 rating and i have seen mangas with 7-8 worst than this. And by surprise many comment criticizing the hypersex of the manga, when there are other that are the same with worst drawing and even worse values (at least the prota here is "decent"). Really weird. Not deserved a 5
- Sold by their family,
- not having any others place to come back to or escaping an even worst place,
- and sometime government coercing your family when the that school REALLY want you.
The gatekeepers are not seniors, or even humans, it's worst, they are shikigami Onis, with infinite stamina and libido. That why it is because of them that if a girl get killed to often, they can end up with weird class that can make became unable to live without sex because she got raped to much time. (cf, chapter 3.5 of the wn)
The part where Shizuka got raped by the senior his an alternative timeline when the protagonist didn't get his skills in the shop (cf ch 8.5 of the web novel)
In the current timeline the protagonist didn't allow them to her)
The part where Shizuka got raped by the senior his an alternative timeline when the protagonist didn't get his skills in the shop (cf ch 8.5 of the web novel)
In the current timeline the protagonist didn't allow them to her)
They call my previous protagonist absolute trash for seeing all the raped and not react at all ?
Let's make this new one absolutely clueless (the version of him you in chapter 1 and most of the scene in it are manga only)
For example, since people in his social group told him that it is ordinary here, most of the time if he saw a man rape a girl, until proving otherwise they must be in a play and he shouldn't butt into it.
In the original novel this MC's missing absolutely almost any social cue and is trying to compensate with advise books for socializing because he lived in a wild forest until middle school and even after that talked to absolutely no one there except the teacher who sent him there between their daily brawling. His intimidating eyes and fighter aura don't help either.
Most appeal I have got reading the story is in the gap between how we saw situation happen through the eyes of the protagonist and what is currently happening. In the chapter 12 or 13 of the web novel, the whole chapter is MC describing how good his meal is when he had lunch in the school cafeteria while his team was arguing with another group of student. He perceive himself as normal no matter how many his action prove the contrary, gaslight himself as much as it can about situation just to not see it in a way he doesn't like to, but he is OP enough to make it work in the end. He claim to want an ordinary high school life, yet this battle junkie would fight to the death everyday in the dungeon if his others teammates wouldn't prevent him.
they said my reasons I gave to make so my character can f#ck no matter the time and place doesn't make sense ?
Let's make this time that almost every single shit in the system make my character horny :
Level up ? > horny !
Low MP ? > horny !
There is no internet nor smartphone ?> horny !
There are skills to make someone horny !
There are jobs that make people horny 24h/24 !
There is dungeon items to make people horny !
etc
They said my characters are trash ?
I admit it, in the novel at least he wrote better characters this time (from Sticky notes to A5 papers)
There is were not enough girls ? (who said that ?)
In the point I am in the novel, it is the in January 1st, that school as a mariage system working like Astro king by without an upper limit this time. The story start in the beginning Japanese school year so in April.
So I in 9 months: bro has 22 wives, and if I try to counts every single that say his name to answer the question "you are the women of who ?", that number reach at least 90, and if only the named girl, 29.
But their are point of view of other males characters for more varieties.
They said my story have no plot ?
Let's give them a plot right under their nose they won't see because they will be to much focused on the H-scene so I can mock them in the end
(either that or this author manage to become the best gaslighter I either read.)
from the last available chapter I read in the web novel, the plot seems to be the following : regressors trying to avoid doomsday without the providence, destiny, the time authority or a shit like that figuring them out, by letting their younger self coincidently save the day right before a crisis happen, or straight-up possess them if needed be
Let's make this new one absolutely clueless (the version of him you in chapter 1 and most of the scene in it are manga only)
For example, since people in his social group told him that it is ordinary here, most of the time if he saw a man rape a girl, until proving otherwise they must be in a play and he shouldn't butt into it.
In the original novel this MC's missing absolutely almost any social cue and is trying to compensate with advise books for socializing because he lived in a wild forest until middle school and even after that talked to absolutely no one there except the teacher who sent him there between their daily brawling. His intimidating eyes and fighter aura don't help either.
Most appeal I have got reading the story is in the gap between how we saw situation happen through the eyes of the protagonist and what is currently happening. In the chapter 12 or 13 of the web novel, the whole chapter is MC describing how good his meal is when he had lunch in the school cafeteria while his team was arguing with another group of student. He perceive himself as normal no matter how many his action prove the contrary, gaslight himself as much as it can about situation just to not see it in a way he doesn't like to, but he is OP enough to make it work in the end. He claim to want an ordinary high school life, yet this battle junkie would fight to the death everyday in the dungeon if his others teammates wouldn't prevent him.
they said my reasons I gave to make so my character can f#ck no matter the time and place doesn't make sense ?
Let's make this time that almost every single shit in the system make my character horny :
Level up ? > horny !
Low MP ? > horny !
There is no internet nor smartphone ?> horny !
There are skills to make someone horny !
There are jobs that make people horny 24h/24 !
There is dungeon items to make people horny !
etc
They said my characters are trash ?
I admit it, in the novel at least he wrote better characters this time (from Sticky notes to A5 papers)
There is were not enough girls ? (who said that ?)
In the point I am in the novel, it is the in January 1st, that school as a mariage system working like Astro king by without an upper limit this time. The story start in the beginning Japanese school year so in April.
So I in 9 months: bro has 22 wives, and if I try to counts every single that say his name to answer the question "you are the women of who ?", that number reach at least 90, and if only the named girl, 29.
But their are point of view of other males characters for more varieties.
They said my story have no plot ?
Let's give them a plot right under their nose they won't see because they will be to much focused on the H-scene so I can mock them in the end
(either that or this author manage to become the best gaslighter I either read.)
from the last available chapter I read in the web novel, the plot seems to be the following : regressors trying to avoid doomsday without the providence, destiny, the time authority or a shit like that figuring them out, by letting their younger self coincidently save the day right before a crisis happen, or straight-up possess them if needed be
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Spoilers if anyone cares.
So first I read around the LN, the Web novel and the manga and these three all are fairly different in depictions of the plot. I'll only clarify for the manga and light novel as the WN is more vague and isn't this timeline mostly, plus I doubt anyone cares.
For everyone that keeps asking in the chapters: The female MC is virgin at the start of the series and has her first with the mc.
It's clear she's been definitely assaulted by students in the manga but never fully done it till MC. Later she also has a lot of ntr bait happen throughout all three depictions but as of yet never has actually happened if anyone curious. manga for some reason only updates once every blue moon so only really can use Light novel only.
Overall review, mid series at best, good art, interesting plot, interesting mc/antag, terrible everything else.
I'm bad with explaining plots so instead I'll address what I see brought up a lot.
For people not believing that she's virgin and need proof:
She does mention being seen as a sexual outlet before this in the manga but this means being harrased/molested like in ch 1 not sex, if you look at the raw and translate the same page it can be seen as "an outlet for lust" which implys less than saying a being seen as a sexual outlet. This is further shown by the characters noting that she's reserved and the male and female classmates not knowing how she is with sex like asking mc if she's loose or not. Mc clarifying she's not loose is obvious indicator.
[If this still isn't enough I already had to read the LN so I'll use the light novel to prove the rest…
Long Japanese letters yapping explanation if anyone actually cares. Tldr she hasn't had sex.
Big Yap:
The actual pages state:
{She was being treated as a "hole to dump sperm into" 精子を排泄する穴扱い.
Then それが彼女にとってセックスだった。
TL: That was what sex was to her.
未知のサイズには少し尻込みしてしまったが、ゆっくり慣らしてくれた後は奥まで受け入れることができていた。
TL: Though she had shrunk back a bit at his unfamiliar size, after he slowly broke her in, she had been able to accept him all the way to the depths.
}
Since this passage explicitly notes she was dealing with an "unfamiliar size" (未知のサイズ) and had to be "slowly accustomed/broken in" (ゆっくり慣らしてくれた), she was physically a virgin.
Broke her in obviously meaning deflowering.
The first sentence sounds pretty bad out of context being treated as someone to “dump into” but with context it actually means that was her existing definition of sex based on how she was being harrased and what she had seen due to the school she's in obviously. The next line being "That was what sex was to her" also supports this, that she felt she was an outlet for the men and of course being used as only an outlet for harassment made her see sex, and her first time, as a vile thing she wouldn't want to ever have to do. MC rewrote her definition of sex by being gentle.
She also mentions Anyone I have experienced until now" (今まで経験した誰よりも) after sex refering to not being treated gentle in general due to being harassed in school not actually meaning doing it with men
Yes I'm jobless lol, but dislike characters being mischaracterized however and felt like clarifying in case if
this manga ever updated.
So first I read around the LN, the Web novel and the manga and these three all are fairly different in depictions of the plot. I'll only clarify for the manga and light novel as the WN is more vague and isn't this timeline mostly, plus I doubt anyone cares.
For everyone that keeps asking in the chapters: The female MC is virgin at the start of the series and has her first with the mc.
It's clear she's been definitely assaulted by students in the manga but never fully done it till MC. Later she also has a lot of ntr bait happen throughout all three depictions but as of yet never has actually happened if anyone curious. manga for some reason only updates once every blue moon so only really can use Light novel only.
Overall review, mid series at best, good art, interesting plot, interesting mc/antag, terrible everything else.
I'm bad with explaining plots so instead I'll address what I see brought up a lot.
For people not believing that she's virgin and need proof:
She does mention being seen as a sexual outlet before this in the manga but this means being harrased/molested like in ch 1 not sex, if you look at the raw and translate the same page it can be seen as "an outlet for lust" which implys less than saying a being seen as a sexual outlet. This is further shown by the characters noting that she's reserved and the male and female classmates not knowing how she is with sex like asking mc if she's loose or not. Mc clarifying she's not loose is obvious indicator.
[If this still isn't enough I already had to read the LN so I'll use the light novel to prove the rest…
Long Japanese letters yapping explanation if anyone actually cares. Tldr she hasn't had sex.
Big Yap:
The actual pages state:
{She was being treated as a "hole to dump sperm into" 精子を排泄する穴扱い.
Then それが彼女にとってセックスだった。
TL: That was what sex was to her.
未知のサイズには少し尻込みしてしまったが、ゆっくり慣らしてくれた後は奥まで受け入れることができていた。
TL: Though she had shrunk back a bit at his unfamiliar size, after he slowly broke her in, she had been able to accept him all the way to the depths.
}
Since this passage explicitly notes she was dealing with an "unfamiliar size" (未知のサイズ) and had to be "slowly accustomed/broken in" (ゆっくり慣らしてくれた), she was physically a virgin.
Broke her in obviously meaning deflowering.
The first sentence sounds pretty bad out of context being treated as someone to “dump into” but with context it actually means that was her existing definition of sex based on how she was being harrased and what she had seen due to the school she's in obviously. The next line being "That was what sex was to her" also supports this, that she felt she was an outlet for the men and of course being used as only an outlet for harassment made her see sex, and her first time, as a vile thing she wouldn't want to ever have to do. MC rewrote her definition of sex by being gentle.
She also mentions Anyone I have experienced until now" (今まで経験した誰よりも) after sex refering to not being treated gentle in general due to being harassed in school not actually meaning doing it with men
Yes I'm jobless lol, but dislike characters being mischaracterized however and felt like clarifying in case if
this manga ever updated.
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I also wanted to address this comment:
Idk why your attacking this user for simply clarifying for any future readers or people browsing the comment section. Nowhere was he trying to excuse anything about the author.
Furthermore the alternative timeline is a separate timeline so no it's not "as canon". If an author releases an "if" bad end route on a separate site or as a dream sequence but says it's not canon, then the timeline is not canon. I don't understand how this is so hard for so many readers to understand. This same thing happens with tsugumomo, that one gal and brother manga etc.
Your not only wrong about it being canon you misinterpreted the commenter. so to clarify If it's said not to happen by the author or story, it didn't happen even if it could have or was depicted in an alternative release it is not ca
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The author of this manga made another manga. Cause people hate that manga, they hate this manga too.
And the other manga is not that horrible either. Is super dumb, but is entertaining dumb.
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I hate to break your balls man, but I'm 99% sure she isn't a virgin. If you kept reading into the webnovel or light novel (from what I've seen, they're almost the same, and that's checking the webnovel, the fan translation, and the raws of apparently two light novel versions/publications), like a chapter later where they first have sex, the novel states that Shizuka was raped by her "non blood related step father and brothers" before she even knew what they were doing to her. Which is quite fucked up imo. The novel doesn't state this directly, but it says that they did atrocious acts to her "opposite of family love", and she pretty much hates her mother because of it. It then goes on to state that if she was gonna receive this kind of treatment at home, she might as well go to this academy (not like she had much of a choice, pretty much she was sold/coerced here) and choose who decides to rape? her. Basically she wanted to choose her own sexual partner if she was going to be having sex in the foreseeable future. She transfers to the academy and chooses the MC to be her partner on day 1.
The novel description of the MC "breaking her in" is just smut details saying that the MC's dick is so large she needs to carefully insert it and adjust to it or it will hurt her. To add on, the novel pretty much explicitly says that Shizuka handled the MC and his dick like an experienced woman would. Only the MC was described to be a virgin like movement during sex, though I'm not sure if this was the perspective of the novel or the MC. Regardless, the novel pretty much implied Shizuka had sexual experience.
This backstory pretty much explains why she viewed sex as her being a sexual outlet and why the MC being gentle to her during sex deeply affected her and her trauma.
I clarified this a bit in my original comment awhile ago but that's because the web novel and light novel are fairly different when compared to the manga. The manga and light novel are fairly similar but the manga web novel is not as similar to the light novel.
Hence why it was likely changed from raped to "atrocious acts" which makes sense with the LN raw Japanese used and her descriptions of her first experience.
I'd also like to see the chapter mentioning her step brother and father raped her specifically to see if it used such direct wording. If it did and the light novel censored or literally changed the story to where it was atrocious acts(being vague) and not fully saying rape, then when the manga reaches that point it'll likely be an even further censor or change I suspect.
Which is why I stated in my original comment in the light novel and manga she is a virgin but I'm unsure about the WN. Also if it's a chapter after they had sex how hasn't the manga covered it yet, unless it was skipped, which if it was kinda proves my point that the manga is not the same as the web novel. This is because the web novel is usually the light novel unpolished as it's just the author raw ideas. Manga is author ideas double refined usually so it makes the WN obsolete to manga canon and story wise usually (slime for example).
Tldr: Manga>LN>>WN in terms of similarities. So WN scene/canon is not likely canon to manga but maybe canon to ln, and ln scene maybe canon to manga more likely.
So I'd disagree shizuka was still likely a virgin till mc but she was definitely molested beforehand.
(Also I'm familiar with smut writing especially from jp raws. Authors occasionally use phrases like having her have to get used to his size, but specifically using the "break her in" phrase is a lot more specific of a phrase in jp and isn't just as theatrical as it implies inexperience. If she was constantly being done by her non blood family then she wouldn't have to be "broken in").
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