Mada Kimi o Miageteru - Ch. 2 - Just Like Old Times

[Ares19373]

This manga has a more mysterious tone than his other work. This mangaka is improving

 

[Vergift]

Idk why this manga makes me feel melancholic dread. Is there something wrong with me?

You're not alone, man. I also felt it.

 

[jojoka]

Man this dude is such a virgin, why do these authors love writing their mc's like timid 12 year olds

Idk about you but if a widow who still wears her wedding ring with being widowed only 2 years came on to me I would not hit that and would be weirded out.

 

[BurnerAccount69]

Idk about you but if a widow who still wears her wedding ring with being widowed only 2 years came on to me I would not hit that and would be weirded out.

Uh that's not what I meant, I meant his mannerisms, this dude is way too grown to be acting like he's never interacted with a girl in his life

 

[aveney41]

Idk why this manga makes me feel melancholic dread. Is there something wrong with me?

I mean, there hasn't been anything to be happy about haha. Both are clearly suffering in their own ways. I think a light melancholy is totally what this story is going for.

 

[suica]

Nah I'm with you, maybe it's not something as intense as dread, but I definitely feel the melancholy and the impending sense that something is gonna happen.

I'm reminded of that manga where the woman's son dies and she contacts her old otaku classmate out of nowhere so he can tell her how to isekai since she's sure her son is in another world. Can't remember the title though.

 

[Goldni]

the husband def got snoo snooed

 

[Pluveus]

Nah I'm with you, maybe it's not something as intense as dread, but I definitely feel the melancholy and the impending sense that something is gonna happen.

To me it feels more like the melancholy of knowing that something already happened and these two are going to have to deal with it at some point. Something went down with each of them. She's running from it, and he curled up in the fetal position mentally. He seemed like he was already depressed even as a child, but now whatever happened in college, he's completely shut down and just wants to waste away.

 

[JagdPanther]

The only person I hate here is the virgin main character, everyone else is fine. "w-we were seen together people m-might get the wrong idea" like holy shit

Isn't that a actual thing in Japanese culture, though...?

 

[essensue]

so I did not read any of the previous message so maybe someone already pointed that but the part about the editor going "you draw to much about yourself / imagine who you are writing for"

I disagree so hard on that, I do not want to read something to have a easy catch and one I already practised (read) a thousand time for fuck sake, I want to know what is going in the author head like everything that Oshimi Shuuzou ever wrote or Asano Inio or Tsukushi Akihito, heck whatever the duo being Rosen Garten Saga none of those story could be written or imagined by me

Those type of editor as the one that push an isekai plot line in story that never needed it or push harem and shit smh if you write for your reader you write for no one

Counterpoint: I think you're selling your favorite authors short. If a story emotionally resonated with you and was interesting while it did it, it's because the author worked hard to tell their important tale in a way that connected with you. You, a person with different circumstances and experiences than the author. The ability to bridge the gap between self and other, like empathy, is a skill that needs to be worked at and refined regardless of talent. This concept of engaging your reader is why we "show, don't tell."

What you're talking about, writing to satisfy the urges of an imagined lowest common demoninator of the audience, is a cynical, low-effort application of a very real narratological principle. I think the editor was offering a fix for why he found the MC's manuscript boring and felt nothing reading it.

The part of the chapter where this comes up is a good example of the application of this skill, because the MC spends three and a half pages in his own head, reflecting on stuff that just happened, but it doesn't feel that way at all. We learn more about who he is and why he's about to do what he does, and the entire time the author is holding the audience's hand to make sure we're thinking about the FL's circumstances the way they want us to (even teaching us a little lesson on it via the editor flashback.) The author is writing in consideration of the knowledge that almost none of the readers will be young widows.
It's actually really good, you know?

 

[BurnerAccount69]

Isn't that a actual thing in Japanese culture, though...?

Nope not that I've heard of, if it is, that's a very warped view to have

 

[BigSisWomanizer]

Another manga with a pathetic virgin adult male lead with teenager personality + female lead with extensive sexual experience teasing/humiliating him every chapter + misunderstandings + insert drama bullshit bla bla bla...
i'll stay away from this trash.

Still hopeful it's not another male virginXusedgoods "romance"

 

[Zblurth]

Counterpoint: I think you're selling your favorite authors short. If a story emotionally resonated with you and was interesting while it did it, it's because the author worked hard to tell their important tale in a way that connected with you. You, a person with different circumstances and experiences than the author. The ability to bridge the gap between self and other, like empathy, is a skill that needs to be worked at and refined regardless of talent. This concept of engaging your reader is why we "show, don't tell."

What you're talking about, writing to satisfy the urges of an imagined lowest common demoninator of the audience, is a cynical, low-effort application of a very real narratological principle. I think the editor was offering a fix for why he found the MC's manuscript boring and felt nothing reading it.

The part of the chapter where this comes up is a good example of the application of this skill, because the MC spends three and a half pages in his own head, reflecting on stuff that just happened, but it doesn't feel that way at all. We learn more about who he is and why he's about to do what he does, and the entire time the author is holding the audience's hand to make sure we're thinking about the FL's circumstances the way they want us to (even teaching us a little lesson on it via the editor flashback.) The author is writing in consideration of the knowledge that almost none of the readers will be young widows.
It's actually really good, you know?

I do not think, most story that stay with me are not one that connect that to me but one that let me see the author behind the pages, then again I read a whole light novel that I did not even enjoy the genre it was in cause I was interested where the author would lead, or many pure beginner stuff that are "badly" drawn and written cause I like to see what under it so like I might be enjoying thing a little different than most... tho I also see way too many author either self censoring or being asked to change the story for external reason that I enjoy less

I do not feel like I need a smooth ride down stuff I already explored myself if that make sense, I read to find strange word that are close to inaccessible to me but still on the edge of understanding, trying to make me think more about why and how it was written over the actual plot of the story

ANYWAY typing that out I stand my first comment BUT also I can see why author and editor would think the opposite

 

[JagdPanther]

Nope not that I've heard of, if it is, that's a very warped view to have

It might be slightly overdone in anime and manga, but my understanding is that there is a legitimate almost stigma about public relations between the opposite sexes in Japan.

 

[BurnerAccount69]

It might be slightly overdone in anime and manga, but my understanding is that there is a legitimate almost stigma about public relations between the opposite sexes in Japan.

Definitely overdone and very warped view to have

 

[leeonder1234]

Oh my godto bunny girl desu

 

[chickenstalker]

Getting Rent A Girlfriend vibes from the MC.

 

[LemanRusk]

This story outright would not work without the MC being an arrested development introvert. His only interaction with a girl was this gyaru hovering over him during high school. His Uni life seems like it was awful and he failed at his first prospective job spectacuarly. If he was a fully rounded "normal" 23 year old with a few life experiences under his belt and was working and had not fled home in complete shame there would be no story here. In addition to my eyes I don't think anything the MC has done in the first couple of chapters has been in anyway all that bad as its been made out to be. He just agreed to go out drinking, no histrionics, they sat and had a straight forward conversion where he admitted all of his faults, without being drunk.

From the couple of chapters released so far it reads like a very polished Zyugoya series, which is where the slight feeling of impending dread might come from.

 

[zatchkim]

I can't do this man. It's too real. Hitting where it hurts.

Idk why this manga makes me feel melancholic dread. Is there something wrong with me?

You're not wrong to feel that way. Fmc is a widow and chapter starts with her looking at her dead husband. Real intense right off the bat and we can expect the series to further explore themes of loss and death

 

[OnlyHereForKurumi]

Nah I'm with you, maybe it's not something as intense as dread, but I definitely feel the melancholy and the impending sense that something is gonna happen.

Gotta agree, there is some dread of the story getting worse and worse for the characters with some little moments of hope (Grimdark i guess lol). I actually hope its something like this instead of the usual slop