Ueno-kun wa Kaihatsuzumi - Ch. 78 - Twisted Thoughts

[traplolihunter]

Wait we're getting closer to ueno not ending with tsubomi!!!

 

[Lsk111]

Come on, just do a threesome, come on, be brave, Ueno😤

 

[Late_Komei]

Come on, just do a threesome, come on, be brave, Ueno😤

If only Ueno has the charisma to pull that request off. 😅

 

[animan095]

Love the character developments

 

[phorx]

It was a bit surprising to see Chisaki call Ueno her slave out loud and in front of Moka. To me it shows that she’s still completely unapologetic about what she’s been doing and wants it to continue.

I’m also still confused about why Moka isn’t more angry at her “friends” the bullies.

Take all the strange sexual things out of this situation and you’re still left with the fact that Moka was betrayed and lied to by them from the very beginning. They never would have even approached Moka if it wasn’t to use her as leverage against Ueno.

They were never her friends, not for even one second. Not even when they were white-knighting for Moka with that BS kiss with her ex.

 

[Kanelel]

Someone needs to put drama and comedy tag in this manga LOL.. What even is this..

This manga literally those teasing type heroine manga but everything goes wrong..

Basically it's Nagatoro-san but Senpai decides to dates the president or her sister.. or even worse the brown haired Judo girl

Or Akutsu-san but instead of Akutsu.. Ooyama decides to date the landlord..

But the worst thing in this manga is the woman that the MC likes is thinking about another man when she already decides to date someone else.. Like bro.. Move On.. Already..

And the bluetooth sex is the worst.. I cringed so hard reading that..
They are so incompatible that is frustating.. And their conclusion is also not good..

I don't understand why the author did this.. This is worst than soap opera.. At least they still had chemistry in soap opera but in this it's barely even there..

I actually agree. Chisaki feels real mutual attraction with him which isn't true with Manaka. Honestly, it feels like he and Manaka are more in love with the idea of having a normal romance to cover the shame of their fetishes than they are actually in love with each other. The act like close friends. He's come far closer go acting like a lover with Chisaki than with Manaka.

I think Chisaki does love him, and I think she will eventually have a more direct confrontation with Manaka because of it (which seems to be what Moka wants).

Also, I'd hate it if the ending to this fetish manga was "You shouldn't indulge your fetishes. You should have a normal relationship with a woman you have no sexual chemistry with."

 

[MrPP118]

I actually agree. Chisaki feels real mutual attraction with him which isn't true with Manaka. Honestly, it feels like he and Manaka are more in love with the idea of having a normal romance to cover the shame of their fetishes than they are actually in love with each other. The act like close friends. He's come far closer go acting like a lover with Chisaki than with Manaka.

I think Chisaki does love him, and I think she will eventually have a more direct confrontation with Manaka because of it (which seems to be what Moka wants).

Also, I'd hate it if the ending to this fetish manga was "You shouldn't indulge your fetishes. You should have a normal relationship with a woman you have no sexual chemistry with."

Moka is the more healthy option and the way things are panning out, I don't think Chisaki winning is on the cards at this point.

 

[kaZeTenShi]

niggas like u should stop reading manga

as a black man, this post made me crack the fuck up

 

[Kanelel]

Moka is the more healthy option and the way things are panning out, I don't think Chisaki winning is on the cards at this point.

I don't want this to be a manga about "healthy options"

I want it to be a manga about self acceptance and self indulgence. That's why I started reading a femdom fetish manga about a dude getting stepped on by mean girls. Half of this comic is sex scenes. What are you guys getting out of it if you aren't into the femdom?

 

[Late_Komei]

as a black man, this post made me crack the fuck up

And as another black man, I agree, lol.

 

[ninolover69]

Does anyone know if this chapter is getting close to the end of this volume? feels like we're arriving at the final stretch of the story. Wouldn't be surprised if it ended very soon

 

[essensue]

I actually agree. Chisaki feels real mutual attraction with him which isn't true with Manaka. Honestly, it feels like he and Manaka are more in love with the idea of having a normal romance to cover the shame of their fetishes than they are actually in love with each other. The act like close friends. He's come far closer go acting like a lover with Chisaki than with Manaka.

I think Chisaki does love him, and I think she will eventually have a more direct confrontation with Manaka because of it (which seems to be what Moka wants).

Also, I'd hate it if the ending to this fetish manga was "You shouldn't indulge your fetishes. You should have a normal relationship with a woman you have no sexual chemistry with."

I think the point is that while "romantic love" and "sexual attraction" are separate axes on the "normal" relationship graph, "fetish compatibility" is its own z-axis that gets introduced when one or more people take their kink seriously.

The relationship with Chisaki is implied to be bad not just because it's toxic, but because there's neither mutual love nor attraction, and it's just based on their mutual third-axis custom of getting off together. It seems like he's not opposed to a relationship involving kink with a girl he loves and is attracted to, but he does not want that S&M lifestyle to extend outside sexytimes in bed.

I think he and Moka are maybe in love and definitely attracted to one another. They've committed to exploring and developing their fetishes together. The plot at this point is that he's resolving his relationships with the other 3 so he can "break free" of the "lingering resentment" and further things with Moka.

It's kinda hard to tell sometimes, because honestly I don't think the author has the chops to pull of compelling chemistry. Thankfully they don't seem to be trying.

A "just be normal you freaks" ending would totally suck, but ultimately I'm sensing the message isn't about denying or accepting fetishes, but doing it on your own terms. Just because he's an M doesn't mean he loses the right to self-determination, or that you can't have a kinky relationship with someone you love of your choosing. He has a fetish, but that fetish isn't specifically Chisaki.

 

[Kanelel]

I think the point is that while "romantic love" and "sexual attraction" are separate axes on the "normal" relationship graph, "fetish compatibility" is its own z-axis that gets introduced when one or more people take their kink seriously.

The relationship with Chisaki is implied to be bad not just because it's toxic, but because there's neither mutual love nor attraction, and it's just based on their mutual third-axis custom of getting off together. It seems like he's not opposed to a relationship involving kink with a girl he loves and is attracted to, but he does not want that S&M lifestyle to extend outside sexytimes in bed.

I think he and Moka are maybe in love and definitely attracted to one another. They've committed to exploring and developing their fetishes together. The plot at this point is that he's resolving his relationships with the other 3 so he can "break free" of the "lingering resentment" and further things with Moka.

It's kinda hard to tell sometimes, because honestly I don't think the author has the chops to pull of compelling chemistry. Thankfully they don't seem to be trying.

A "just be normal you freaks" ending would totally suck, but ultimately I'm sensing the message isn't about denying or accepting fetishes, but doing it on your own terms. Just because he's an M doesn't mean he loses the right to self-determination, or that you can't have a kinky relationship with someone you love of your choosing. He has a fetish, but that fetish isn't specifically Chisaki.

I just think it would be lame as fuck if, in this femdom fetish manga, the right thing for the main character to do is to dump the dominant girl in favor of the wimpy normal girl.

 

[essensue]

I just think it would be lame as fuck if, in this femdom fetish manga, the right thing for the main character to do is to dump the dominant girl in favor of the wimpy normal girl.

Would it be similarly lame if he made the wimpy normal girl into a dominant one in bed? Serious question, because I only started finding this interesting when it zagged off from "normal fetish manga."

 

[Kanelel]

Would it be similarly lame if he made the wimpy normal girl into a dominant one in bed? Serious question, because I only started finding this interesting when it zagged off from "normal fetish manga."

Yeah. If she's not naturally a dominant person it just doesn't hit the same.

Maybe if it were her older sister he was dating she could pull it off, but even if he brainwashed Moka into being into it I don't think she could be a good dom. She's the exact opposite of a dominant person. If anything she's cute BECAUSE she's a shy and submissive type.

 

[Late_Komei]

Does anyone know if this chapter is getting close to the end of this volume? feels like we're arriving at the final stretch of the story. Wouldn't be surprised if it ended very soon

Barring bonus chapters, each volume usually has nine chapters in it with few exceptions like the first volume. Volume 8 probably stops at either chapter 68 or 69. The former due to the chapter ending on a cliffhanger of Moka catching Kanako kissing Ueno or the latter due to the Ueno revealing the truth of his programming to Moka.

Volume 9 could stop at chapter 77 unless the mangaka wants to cram the tail end of the story into it. If not, this chapter should be the start of volume 10, which means this manga should end at chapter 85 or even earlier than that. The remaining chapters might be Ueno and Moka finding a kink that can work with and a time skip to see the outcome of everyone in this story (like a tennis club reunion).

 

[essensue]

Yeah. If she's not naturally a dominant person it just doesn't hit the same.

Maybe if it were her older sister he was dating she could pull it off, but even if he brainwashed Moka into being into it I don't think she could be a good dom. She's the exact opposite of a dominant person. If anything she's cute BECAUSE she's a shy and submissive type.

Thanks, that's helpful. Sounds like the author has a complicated landing to stick, then.
Which like, decent chance considering they wrote the femdom fetish manga?

 

[moggnight]

Idk but I don't think it will workout with manaka anymore after having a conversation with chisaki

 

[Daleport112668]

This is so fucking peak

 

[TitanFiber]

I like that they are challenging each other. Being forced to confront your feelings isnt easy, and somehow i feel like Chisaki just got bullied into admitting something