Keikenchi Chochiku de Nonbiri Shoushin Ryokou ~Yuusha to Koibito ni Tsuihou Sareta Senshi no Mujikaku Zamaa~

[Oobaka-san]

I'm honestly shocked by the number of people that are calling the three childhood friend girls trash and worse. And it looks like many of them are people that've read past chapter 3.

Spoiler: chapter 3

That's where it's revealed that Sain has and used a power on the three that brainwashed them into believing that they were in love with him and put him first above everything else. I seriously don't get how someone can call these girls "used goods", "trash", "sluts" and other such things knowing that they had literally no choice in the matter. Especially when far later chapters where Nei's and Soara's brainwashing are undone show just how awfully they're effected by the disjoint between their feelings and the actions they'd been made to do.

Along the same lines, while I am very interested in this series, especially since it's one of the rare cases where NTR is treated as something to be undone rather than a defeat (literally anytime I see an NTR I want to see a follow-up where the guy gets her back, whether romantically or sadistically). But I have two things that I very much hope the author will do.

Spoiler

First, I want Lisa to be the one to kill Sein. It just feels poetic. Plenty of scenarios where this could happen. What I'm betting is that Sein finally meets up with Tohru and tries to brainwash his comrades. He manages to succeed somehow on at least one, and Tohru has to use a technique he learns to break the spell, only for it to break Lisa's spell as well. Then as she falls and writhes Sein freaks out, figures from the look of Tohru's comrades what happened and moves to use his eyes again, only for Lisa to grab a knife and start stabbing, knocking him down and trying to stab him for every single time he did her.

Second, I seriously want at least one if not all of the brainwashed girls to end up with Tohru. I'm sick of stories where girls are either revealed to be virgins before they enter the harem, or after being deflowered against their will are sent away like damaged goods that don't deserve the hero. Lack of virginity shouldn't be a deal breaker in whether a girl can be a love interest, and even if you do insist on that rape should never count.

 

[Oobaka-san]

but this is not erotic. most of the time it doesn't even happen on screen. I read 20 chapters of this and I didn't see a single nipple

If you actually look through the list of erotica manga, there are TONS that don't include nipples. Just like there are tons of items in the "Suggestive" rating that do. The key isn't whether the author included such details, but whether there is sex on the pages without enough genitalia to warrant a Mature/Hentai rating. As for why, sometimes it's a matter of the author's personal taste, but it could also be something to do with the magazine it's published in. For instance, "I Would Die to Have Your First Time" is definitely erotica but, like this one, it was published in a Shounen magazine and was forbidden from drawing nipples. In that one, the author even made fun of it, drawing one extreme chapter with a long nude sex scene with the main heroine, with black boxes over her breasts. Then at the end he wrote a little extra where the hero interrogates his avatar about it, and he insists that he really didn't draw the nipples but no one would be able to confirm the state of these Schrodinger's Nipples unless they bought the next volume.

If you want erotica that includes nipples, my number one advice would be to include in your search criteria the "Seinen" demographic (or Josei, though Shoujo also seems a bit more lenient than Shounen).

 

[trahuar]

I read 20 chapters of this and I didn't see a single nipple

Then its safe to drop this shit. Thx.

 

[mangabot0]

Kaede is really gorgeous. this is the first time I found a FMC, slave concubine character belonging to the dispossesed MC more beautiful and attractive than Roxanne from Isekai Meikyuu.
Kaede body figure, her long hair, and her cold, stern demeanor towards her enemies is kinda like Rikudou Setsuna from Bouryoku Banzai. I love it.

 

[mangabot0]

MC is too chill, I dont like it. why he wasnt bitter, or angry, or curious or even want to get revenge against the douche ex-childhood friend? he's just like: wow I'm so sad, okay, I'm just gonna do a tour around the world! do doo!
and why he hasn't making out with the FMC slave at all?? if she have a gorgeous slave woman who is infatuated with him, it's just make sense to make love with her. like in Isekai meikyuu. or even in Shield Hero, where the MC and FMC shares a slow but stead mutual romantic feelings for each other.

 

[mangabot0]

I'm honestly shocked by the number of people that are calling the three childhood friend girls trash and worse. And it looks like many of them are people that've read past chapter 3.

Spoiler: chapter 3

That's where it's revealed that Sain has and used a power on the three that brainwashed them into believing that they were in love with him and put him first above everything else. I seriously don't get how someone can call these girls "used goods", "trash", "sluts" and other such things knowing that they had literally no choice in the matter. Especially when far later chapters where Nei's and Soara's brainwashing are undone show just how awfully they're effected by the disjoint between their feelings and the actions they'd been made to do.

Along the same lines, while I am very interested in this series, especially since it's one of the rare cases where NTR is treated as something to be undone rather than a defeat (literally anytime I see an NTR I want to see a follow-up where the guy gets her back, whether romantically or sadistically). But I have two things that I very much hope the author will do.

Spoiler

First, I want Lisa to be the one to kill Sein. It just feels poetic. Plenty of scenarios where this could happen. What I'm betting is that Sein finally meets up with Tohru and tries to brainwash his comrades. He manages to succeed somehow on at least one, and Tohru has to use a technique he learns to break the spell, only for it to break Lisa's spell as well. Then as she falls and writhes Sein freaks out, figures from the look of Tohru's comrades what happened and moves to use his eyes again, only for Lisa to grab a knife and start stabbing, knocking him down and trying to stab him for every single time he did her.

Second, I seriously want at least one if not all of the brainwashed girls to end up with Tohru. I'm sick of stories where girls are either revealed to be virgins before they enter the harem, or after being deflowered against their will are sent away like damaged goods that don't deserve the hero. Lack of virginity shouldn't be a deal breaker in whether a girl can be a love interest, and even if you do insist on that rape should never count.

that's a good theory, especially since it do justice for Lisa against Sein.
unfortunately, from the latest chapter, there's a quite interesting plot twist from the author: Lisa is a traitor. whatever that means.

 

[mangabot0]

per the latest chapter 43, I think that Soara said that: Lisa is a traitor, perhaps the best theory is that she's actually a spy agent sent long ago by the demon king to got into the will-be-hero friends group, and their party team.
her mission most probably is to sabotage the hero in the making, corrupting Sein, the official hero, and turning the hero party members against each other.
from the start, it's kinda weird that how a hero get "Alluring Hypnotic Demonic Eyes" skill. demonic.
and their arch enemies are literally race of demons. maybe Lisa inflamed the jealousy of Sein against Toru, put the skill on him, and put the seed of destruction from within.
the allegedly hero, Sein, become massive jerk, asshole, evil, stupid, and corrupted. while his companions are weakens and fight each other (the first chapter).
if that is, they dont realize the factor that is Toru gaining the saving experience skill and suddenly boosted up to level 300, essentially becoming like a freaking demigod.

 

[Oobaka-san]

that's a good theory, especially since it do justice for Lisa against Sein.
unfortunately, from the latest chapter, there's a quite interesting plot twist from the author: Lisa is a traitor. whatever that means.

Yeah, I wrote that before I read that part. And then I saw more in the forums...

Spoiler

Turns out she's more than a traitor. In fact she's a step up from what mangabot suggested. In fact...


She's the Demon King herself. The hero's power is that as he grows stronger the Demo King grows weaker, literally losing levels as the hero gains them. If she kills the hero, someone else will become the hero and she'll have to hunt them down too. So, she decided it would be better once she found the young hero to corrupt him, control him, and keep him from growing too much. She deliberately made him fall for her while entering a relationship with his best friend to fill him with jealousy. Then she gave him the demon eye power and a few more pushes so he'd use it on her (didn't work since her power's in the 600s or higher, but she played along and slept with him anyway). She continued to manipulate him further and further, and once things had progressed far enough started to convince him to eliminate those that could stand as allies and bring him back from the brink, thus allowing her to control and corrupt him even further. In essence, while he chose to do all the evil things he did, she was the one that deliberately guided him to "coming up" with the ideas.

I'm still not sure whether I like this more or less than Lisa being normal and suffering a complete mental breakdown before stabbing him until there's nothing left but ground meat paste.

 

[mangabot0]

Yeah, I wrote that before I read that part. And then I saw more in the forums...

Spoiler

Turns out she's more than a traitor. In fact she's a step up from what mangabot suggested. In fact...


She's the Demon King herself. The hero's power is that as he grows stronger the Demo King grows weaker, literally losing levels as the hero gains them. If she kills the hero, someone else will become the hero and she'll have to hunt them down too. So, she decided it would be better once she found the young hero to corrupt him, control him, and keep him from growing too much. She deliberately made him fall for her while entering a relationship with his best friend to fill him with jealousy. Then she gave him the demon eye power and a few more pushes so he'd use it on her (didn't work since her power's in the 600s or higher, but she played along and slept with him anyway). She continued to manipulate him further and further, and once things had progressed far enough started to convince him to eliminate those that could stand as allies and bring him back from the brink, thus allowing her to control and corrupt him even further. In essence, while he chose to do all the evil things he did, she was the one that deliberately guided him to "coming up" with the ideas.

I'm still not sure whether I like this more or less than Lisa being normal and suffering a complete mental breakdown before stabbing him until there's nothing left but ground meat paste.

what.

what.

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

isn't that too far fetched?
personally I prefer the plot point that is Lisa is innocent and will one day take her awful revenge upon Sein. I wanna see Sein being stabbed brutally by her until he turns to pulp.

 

[master-34]

what.

what.

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

isn't that too far fetched?
personally I prefer the plot point that is Lisa is innocent and will one day take her awful revenge upon Sein. I wanna see Sein being stabbed brutally by her until he turns to pulp.

Well their are time were the person that is in charge of making the manga end up changing stufff from the original version

 

[Oobaka-san]

Well their are time were the person that is in charge of making the manga end up changing stufff from the original version

True, and if the manga author went with the idea I started with I'd be plenty happy, though it would mean Soara was completely wrong about the "traitor" thing. I'd still be wary about such things though, after the ending to Piggy Duke I'm not particularly fond of alternate manga endings.

 

[Oobaka-san]

One thing I forgot to ask that I've been wondering since I started the story:
What are the different girls' job classes? It's clear Soara is a priestess, and I know Thor's a warrior and Thane's a "hero", but what about Nei and Lisa?

 

[RFM93]

Ada kesalahan di genre deh kayanya,gw baca dari awal ni manga,kaga ada tuh sedikit pun scene romantis,erotica,apalagi ngent*t,cuma diliatin cangcut doang,harusnya ke genre ecchi,action,adventure,fantasy,monster.harusnya begitu toh Mc nya aja Naif ga peka sedikitpun sama lawan jenis..

 

[MensCultureUnion]

Objectively, this series is garbage.
The characters don't feel like real people at all and are generally uncharismatic, dialogue is clunky, the setup is generic, the exposition is hamfisted, foreshadowing is so transparent it may as well not be there, and events occur that are nonsensical given what we are told of the world. I've read other series translated by KappaBeast that aren't nearly this bad writing wise, so I think it's much more the original authors than the scanlators.

And yet I still read it.