GraPara! - Ch. 132 - Fumi’s Breasts (Censored)

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Why? Because he exposed Sakura for the bitch she was?
I mean Sakura is dumb and we all know that but is correct to say he is in the wrong too(in a minor part) because he badmouthed Shinobu,hit on her even if he knows she was dating Shinobu and put the idea that Shinobu cheated on her.And after everything he invited Shinobu to a cafe to talk they had sex and saying that she doesn't want to see Shinobu anymore and asked to break up with her(and not letting him explain his side) for his own sake.

He is not that good guy people thing he is,after the sex with Sakura he treated her like she was a prostitute(he left the room and took a bottle of water).And their sex was more a desperate act than a romantic one and he took advantage of her own heartbreak and he knew she would gave in that time.So he is not a saint.

His introduction was not the most friendly one too because he was rude towards Sakura and Shinobu(mostly Shinobu).And we know that he has a personality problem because he had a problem with that in a dating show(chapter 105),so we can expect him doing something really bad in the next arcs of the story.

I know Sakura was immature,weak minded and Stupid but is not fair to treat like the guy is innocent or doesn't have any fault on this,i say he is in the fault because he took advantage of her weakness not because they made sex.

And fuckboi had done some weirds faces and actions on period of 128 to 131.Like i said he took advantage of her in 128 and she gave in(the face that he made in the end of chapter is not face that a guy who claimed he loved her would do),in 129 after the sex he treated her like a prostitute(left the room and took a bottle of water) and 131 he asked to meet Shinobu and said the said they had sex until morning and that they done because he cheated on her,that she didn't want too see Shinobu anymore and asked to break up with her and to get worst he asked about him and Fumi but he didn't let Shinobu explain what truly happened.He left the cafeteria with a big dark eyes in his face.

For me he deserves the worst ending in the story right now.I want Sakura to have a happy ending without him or Shinobu and goes to follow an better path for her life.
 
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I mean Sakura is dumb and we all know that but is correct to say he is in the wrong too(in a minor part) because he badmouthed Shinobu,hit on her even if he knows she was dating Shinobu and put the idea that Shinobu cheated on her.And after everything he invited Shinobu to a cafe to talk they had sex and saying that she doesn't want to see Shinobu anymore and asked to break up with her(and not letting him explain his side) for his own sake.

He is not that good guy people thing he is,after the sex with Sakura he treated her like she was a prostitute(he left the room and took a bottle of water).And their sex was more a desperate act than a romantic one and he took advantage of her own heartbreak and he knew she would gave in that time.So he is not a saint.

His introduction was not the most friendly one too because he was rude towards Sakura and Shinobu(mostly Shinobu).And we know that he has a personality problem because he had a problem with that in a dating show(chapter 105),so we can expect him doing something really bad in the next arcs of the story.

I know Sakura was immature,weak minded and Stupid but is not fair to treat like the guy is innocent or doesn't have any fault on this,i say he is in the fault because he took advantage of her weakness not because they made sex.

And fuckboi had done some weirds faces and actions on period of 128 to 131.Like i said he took advantage of her in 128 and she gave in(the face that he made in the end of chapter is not face that a guy who claimed he loved her would do),in 129 after the sex he treated her like a prostitute(left the room and took a bottle of water) and 131 he asked to meet Shinobu and said the said they had sex until morning and that they done because he cheated on her,that she didn't want too see Shinobu anymore and asked to break up with her and to get worst he asked about him and Fumi but he didn't let Shinobu explain what truly happened.He left the cafeteria with a big dark eyes in his face.

For me he deserves the worst ending in the story right now.I want Sakura to have a happy ending without him or Shinobu and goes to follow an better path for her life.
It feels like people want to take out their frustrations on Yuma for ruining the story. Having a bad attitude or misleading or whatever, I get it. The only issue for me personally is I dont care because its still Sakuras fault in my eyes, what happened during and after.

Like I personally don't care about his weird faces or if he's a playboy or actually loves Sakura lol. I just care about what happens to Sakura, and I want it to be bad. Yuma was just a plot device to make Sakura cheat I do not care about his intentions at this point, the deed is done. Like he's unimportant, the only important part is Sakura is a cheater and a terrible person. Sakura ruined the story, not Yuma. I view Yuma as a literary macGuffin to show Sakura's terrible personality, so he doesnt matter in my view.
 
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It feels like people want to take out their frustrations on Yuma for ruining the story. Having a bad attitude or misleading or whatever, I get it. The only issue for me personally is I dont care because its still Sakuras fault in my eyes, what happened during and after.

Like I personally don't care about his weird faces or if he's a playboy or actually loves Sakura lol. I just care about what happens to Sakura, and I want it to be bad. Yuma was just a plot device to make Sakura cheat I do not care about his intentions at this point, the deed is done. Like he's unimportant, the only important part is Sakura is a cheater and a terrible person. Sakura ruined the story, not Yuma.
We still view him as a bad guy and not many want an antagonist to win. Yeah she cheated we all agree it's still majority her fault, but he did everything he could to take her from the protagonist. Sakura is 100% at fault but he shouldn't get away with being a piece of shit.
 
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It feels like people want to take out their frustrations on Yuma for ruining the story. Having a bad attitude or misleading or whatever, I get it. The only issue for me personally is I dont care because its still Sakuras fault in my eyes, what happened during and after.

Like I personally don't care about his weird faces or if he's a playboy or actually loves Sakura lol. I just care about what happens to Sakura, and I want it to be bad. Yuma was just a plot device to make Sakura cheat I do not care about his intentions at this point, the deed is done. Like he's unimportant, the only important part is Sakura is a cheater and a terrible person. Sakura ruined the story, not Yuma.
Fuckboi is a important plot device because he was the guy that she cheated Shinobu and we can see he doing some thing to destroy Shinobu's career if he want to.

Him and Fumi will be important secondary characters in final streacth of the manga.

But i understand that you blame Sakura for everything but Fuckboi is a important character right now and he will be important in the end too.(because he is the second love interest from the FMC of the story).
 
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We still view him as a bad guy and not many want an antagonist to win. Yeah she cheated we all agree it's still majority her fault, but he did everything he could to take her from the protagonist. Sakura is 100% at fault but he shouldn't get away with being a piece of shit.
i agree with you
I know Sakura was immature,weak minded and Stupid but is not fair to treat like the guy is innocent or doesn't have any fault on this,i say he is in the fault because he took advantage of her weakness not because they made sex.
I made that same point here
 
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Fuckboi is a important plot device because he was the guy that she cheated Shinobu and we can see he doing some thing to destroy Shinobu's career if he want to.

Him and Fumi will be important secondary characters in final streacth of the manga.

But i understand that you blame Sakura for everything but Fuckboi is a important character right now and he will be important in the end too.(because he is the second love interest from the FMC of the story).
See i don't view Yuma as the bad guy I view him as just a plot device. The story was supposed to be about Sakura and Shinobu. I view Sakura as the bad guy.
 
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See i don't view Yuma as the bad guy I view him as just a plot device. The story was supposed to be about Sakura and Shinobu. I view Sakura as the bad guy.
He is still a side character to help the plot, they all play their roles to progress the story. By definition he is a minor antagonist and the worst one of the story since he succeeded.

Had he not known they were together then he could not be at fault. But when he maliciously did everything to separate them and tell Shinobu to his face they had sex all night, I can't not see him as being the bad guy
 
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As I said before, Sakura is a terrible person. She seemed to lean toward that playboy when he confessed to her and when that blonde girl encouraged her. When she saw Fumi kissing Shinobu, I got the feeling that deep down, she felt she was now freed from Shinobu and could go to the playboy without feeling awkward or guilty—that is why she immediately ran to find him. In that situation, she could have run to find her other female friends, right?
 
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Another thing I'm noticing is how we sweep under the rug that Shinobu stayed the night with Fumi and slept over her home.

That is still cheating and he chose to hide that incident. They both choose to keep secrets from each other. We demonize Sakura because she went all the way but objectively he was still wrong but we have little to say about it.

This is why I can't demonize her 100% they are not honest with each other for a lot of the story while they are both getting gropped and grabbed by the side characters
 
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I mean Sakura is dumb and we all know that but is correct to say he is in the wrong too(in a minor part) because he badmouthed Shinobu,hit on her even if he knows she was dating Shinobu and put the idea that Shinobu cheated on her.And after everything he invited Shinobu to a cafe to talk they had sex and saying that she doesn't want to see Shinobu anymore and asked to break up with her(and not letting him explain his side) for his own sake.

He is not that good guy people thing he is,after the sex with Sakura he treated her like she was a prostitute(he left the room and took a bottle of water).And their sex was more a desperate act than a romantic one and he took advantage of her own heartbreak and he knew she would gave in that time.So he is not a saint.

His introduction was not the most friendly one too because he was rude towards Sakura and Shinobu(mostly Shinobu).And we know that he has a personality problem because he had a problem with that in a dating show(chapter 105),so we can expect him doing something really bad in the next arcs of the story.

I know Sakura was immature,weak minded and Stupid but is not fair to treat like the guy is innocent or doesn't have any fault on this,i say he is in the fault because he took advantage of her weakness not because they made sex.

And fuckboi had done some weirds faces and actions on period of 128 to 131.Like i said he took advantage of her in 128 and she gave in(the face that he made in the end of chapter is not face that a guy who claimed he loved her would do),in 129 after the sex he treated her like a prostitute(left the room and took a bottle of water) and 131 he asked to meet Shinobu and said the said they had sex until morning and that they done because he cheated on her,that she didn't want too see Shinobu anymore and asked to break up with her and to get worst he asked about him and Fumi but he didn't let Shinobu explain what truly happened.He left the cafeteria with a big dark eyes in his face.

For me he deserves the worst ending in the story right now.I want Sakura to have a happy ending without him or Shinobu and goes to follow an better path for her life.
Well in the end its always the one in a relationships that is at fault when he/she isnt forced and slutkura by any means didnt looked like she was forced. She even kissed him back, and to top it of they went 5 rounds.. There is no excuse for her here.
 
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Well in the end its always the one in a relationships that is at fault when he/she isnt forced and slutkura by any means didnt looked like she was forced. She even kissed him back, and to top it of they went 5 rounds.. There is no excuse for her here.
I'm not saying that she was forced.I'm saying that the guy has a minor part of the fault too because he made everything to take Sakura from Shinobu.

I'm talking about his actions before the 128 to 131 happen and he made everything he can to take Sakura away from Shinobu and took advantage of her stupid personality.
 
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Another thing I'm noticing is how we sweep under the rug that Shinobu stayed the night with Fumi and slept over her home.

That is still cheating and he chose to hide that incident. They both choose to keep secrets from each other. We demonize Sakura because she went all the way but objectively he was still wrong but we have little to say about it.

This is why I can't demonize her 100% they are not honest with each other for a lot of the story while they are both getting gropped and grabbed by the side characters
It's come up a few times but was never emphasized really in our discussions, because its true that Shinobu's own guilt from his incidents with Fumi was showing in his actions and Sakura was picking up on these. Shinobu takes a kitty share of the blame.
 
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It's come up a few times but was never emphasized really in our discussions, because its true that Shinobu's own guilt from his incidents with Fumi was showing in his actions and Sakura was picking up on these. Shinobu takes a kitty share of the blame.
I don't see some people here looking at the actions of both MCs objectively. I think they only see chapter 129 and (director chapter) and are stuck with the Sakura is a whore/slut.

But outrage sells and some people can only see it at face value
 
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Another thing I'm noticing is how we sweep under the rug that Shinobu stayed the night with Fumi and slept over her home.

That is still cheating and he chose to hide that incident. They both choose to keep secrets from each other. We demonize Sakura because she went all the way but objectively he was still wrong but we have little to say about it.

This is why I can't demonize her 100% they are not honest with each other for a lot of the story while they are both getting gropped and grabbed by the side characters
Jesus Christ. I go away for two days and I see 20 pages of added comments!! Damn you doctors and Palworld!

But this is a valid take, like others said, it's not emphasized as much.

Yes Shinobu didn't tell Sakura about it, though he did explain the reason he was found hugging Fumi. The key difference here is we know he felt bad about it. And relieved when Fumi explained to him what happened. We have to keep in mind that Fumi was not aware that Shinobu was dating anyone up until Sakura caught her kissing him.

The other key difference here is we see how Shinobu reacts to the incident. Even if he thought it was sex at the time. He couldn't remember.

What we don't see is the aftermath of Sakura's infidelity. At least, not when the message was sent. Not when she was putting her clothing back on. Nothing. For all we know, that message was sent as a means of her running away and not wanting to face the consequences of her actions. That brief van scene may have hinted at it before she was disrupted by Blondie.
 
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I don't see some people here looking at the actions of both MCs objectively. I think they only see chapter 129 and (director chapter) and are stuck with the Sakura is a whore/slut.

But outrage sells and some people can only see it at face value
The emotions cut deep, harder for some than others even now. I've re-read the last 20~30 chapters enough by now to contextualize the unfortunate series of events from both perspectives. Should the holes in the MC's relationship have caused what ultimately happened? No, it was heavily aided by poorly paced writing nearing the end and plot convenience. Sakura tanks the lion share of the blame, with the rest divided between fuckboi, blonde, and Shinobu having the least but its not zero, doesn't mean he's not our goat. I hate what Sakura did, but I also find myself hating more what was done to her by that blonde and fucboi, guess my emotions are also still simmering in the corner.
 

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