Fukushuu o Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou Suru - Ch. 145

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"This is getting out of hand, now there's TWO of them!"

anyway, it seems that for those angry at Vicky's "redemption", well, maybe she wasn't really so innocent, or rather, she was rather cruel deep inside from the start, but I'd still call it a natural child-kind of cruelty, it's just that kids never get to insta-kill whenever they want and for any resons they want, which is the thing the gods are enabling, they're bad bad influences on this pitiful mean little girl pushed to the brink
 
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Genuinely cheered more for those f’ing maids dying than the Pedo Prince. They f’ing sucked and they deserved it

"This is getting out of hand, now there's TWO of them!"

anyway, it seems that for those angry at Vicky's "redemption", well, maybe she wasn't really so innocent, or rather, she was rather cruel deep inside from the start, but I'd still call it a natural child-kind of cruelty, it's just that kids never get to insta-kill whenever they want and for any resons they want, which is the thing the gods are enabling, they're bad bad influences on this pitiful mean little girl pushed to the brink
This chapter definitely painted her as less sympathetic and closer to the version of her we saw in chapter 1 (with maybe a memory wipe between those 2 points). She’s cruel and vindictive and far less deserving of s redemption than than scared little girl from the start of this arc.

the question is, whowas she really? Did the gods corrupt her or just reveal her true nature? I’m leaning towards the latter since mc rechecked the souls of those he brought to paradise to ensure they remained pure of heart.
 
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It explains her one-sided obsession with him at least. Her whole life has been one-sidedly devoted to Raul and he had no idea who she was. So that's something that came out of this flashback arc.
 
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You can see why Vicky became a monster, even while acknowledging that she was a monster who deserved, up to a point, the treatment Raoul gave her. Understanding doesn't require excusing.

However, Raoul's servants revealing her past to him may allow him to move past his hatred of her, and move that hatred to the gods that have toyed with them both.

I suspect, at the end of the story, Raoul will take his place as the Absolute God and bring all the righteous people, living and dead, to his own paradise.
 
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I have no idea what the author is attempting to accomplish with this arc, but at this point I am just witing for this whole managa to be over already, not just this awfu arc.
Honestly. Feels like this arc would've worked alot better if it happened way earlier in the story. Why they decided to show this after MC already became the new Death God and had his revenge doesn't make much sense.
 
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well Vicky turned into a monster because of the gods and that love portion PLUS she was often nearly killed.. so no wonder she sank deeper in her madness.
she can be redeemed but it WON'T be easy and she has a long rocky road to that. if she is easily forgiven. then damnit!
 
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well Vicky turned into a monster because of the gods and that love portion PLUS she was often nearly killed.. so no wonder she sank deeper in her madness.
she can be redeemed but it WON'T be easy and she has a long rocky road to that. if she is easily forgiven. then damnit!
Can you honestly explain what she could do to justify all this?

I get people think a hard life is the reason she was lead down this path, but she still did everything. Including tons of blatant murder. What could she do that gets you to think she is redeemed?
 
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Prior to the childhood flashback arc, we strictly followed Raul POV and it seemed like he's some sort of reincarnator chosen by the Goddess in chapter 1 where he returns to her after death and retains memory and power and shit and aired his grievances.

Now we have Vicky's POV where we see Raul speaking not like a child his age, knowing how to handle power struggle and corruption in the court and such.

And this chapter we see Raul's inner thought bubbles and he's definitely not thinking like an reincarnator but it's also definitely not a child's thought either.

So what's his deal?
Easy to handle by author. 1) At some point he gets his whole memory back in one go; 2) it gradually comes back to him; or 3) it doesn't come back to him until he dies.
 
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Can you honestly explain what she could do to justify all this?

I get people think a hard life is the reason she was lead down this path, but she still did everything. Including tons of blatant murder. What could she do that gets you to think she is redeemed?
It's already been explicitly stated that accepting the deal would leave her half-possessed. The actions we're seeing now aren't actions by "true vicky", they're the actions of "vicky + GOW" (with drugs piled on top of that). It has been made absolutely clear that true-vicky would never have taken the actions that GOW-vicky has taken. (True-vicky wouldn't even take action to hurt the shitty people who were torturing her.)

What she needs isn't "redemption" but "cleansing" or "exorcism".

I could make arguments about environment (murder is normal), absolute abandonment, extreme child abuse (repeated poisoning to the point of near death), gaslighting, etc. But all that is irrelevant because these are not the actions of true-vicky.

Update: I went back and refreshed my memory... Flashback is all from Raul's servants investigating her past. Starts in ch 131. And it seems likely that Vicky herself is watching the flashback - it's possible that she had forgotten this past (or something removed the memory from her).

Going back further, "resurrection" of Victoria (from insect ridden near-corpse) starts in ch 125, followed by marriage etc through ch 128.
 
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Still don’t see everyone’s issue with the flashback. Yall wanna go back to author making up more revenge targets after they run dry on target ideas?
Timing was rather poor, considering we have a demon princess behind a goddess' magic barrier blocking Raoul from saving her immediately before all this crap started up. I don't blame you for forgetting though, since it's been so long since we last touched on the events of the present. I'm guessing that Raoul is going to target this god/goddess and yoink them out of Vicky's soul and consume them for a power up, which is why it's relevant, but still...
 

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